Heat

[lakerboy]

Why are you so adament about Boston not making the Finals?

Just like the pats didnt make the superbowl. Too many people think Boston is gonna be there. It looks good but games have to be played.

[t-wizzle]

K, just wanted to get your reasoning. I figured it would be something along those lines but I didn't know if there was some futures odds you had been monitoring.

[No coincidences]

Heat are a work in progress. Boston isn't gonna be in the nba final. Mark that dwon.

I would agree with you if a legitimate second option arose.

Are you telling me Spoelstra, Boosh and this joke of a supporting cast is going to beat the Celtics in a 7-game series? Come on LB.

[hothandsmgee]

I cant see them besting boston

[lakerboy]

I would agree with you if a legitimate second option arose.

Are you telling me Spoelstra, Boosh and this joke of a supporting cast is going to beat the Celtics in a 7-game series? Come on LB.

I dont know anything about the Heat cause i havent followed them all year. I do know that your thinking is almost the same as any joe out there. THe celtics beat them every time and that no other team is going to win except Boston. Books love that stuff. Lets see who advances to the NBA finals.

[demens]

Why are you so adament about Boston not making the Finals?

Maybe cause he's starting to realize how lucky the Lakers got last year, so its more wishful thinking.

[lakerboy]

Maybe cause he's starting to realize how lucky the Lakers got last year, so its more wishful thinking.

Lakers always get lucky. Boston had plenty of luck the year they won as well. Im not concerned about Boston. The big 3 got there 1 ring. Thats it for them.

[No coincidences]

I dont know anything about the Heat cause i havent followed them all year. I do know that your thinking is almost the same as any joe out there. THe celtics beat them every time and that no other team is going to win except Boston. Books love that stuff. Lets see who advances to the NBA finals.

If the Heat make the finals with no legit, tough post threat and this dipshit as their head coach, it'd be nothing short of a miracle.

My thinking is the same as any joe out there? If you polled most average NBA fans/bettors, I'm sure the vast majority would say Miami will be in the Finals -- not Boston. Trust me, it will be the C's that will be overlooked by the "Joes" come postseason time, not Miami.

[lunchbawks]

If the Heat make the finals with no legit, tough post threat and this dipshit as their head coach, it'd be nothing short of a miracle.

My thinking is the same as any joe out there? If you polled most average NBA fans/bettors, I'm sure the vast majority would say Miami will be in the Finals -- not Boston. Trust me, it will be the C's that will be overlooked by the "Joes" come postseason time, not Miami.

How is Spoelstra a dipshit head coach? Because he's young?

He runs his team very well, calls TOs at the right times, this team will become as systematic as SAS come the playoffs. You can tell the Miami Heat is Spoelstras entire life. These superstars have only been playing together since summertime, and they're tearing up the NBA. Imagine how the Heat will look in 2012? Ofcourse I expect Spoelstra to get left out, being surrounded by all these NBA powerhouses. You gotta give credit where credit is due.

[No coincidences]

How is Spoelstra a dipshit head coach? Because he's young?

He runs his team very well, calls TOs at the right times, this team will become as systematic as SAS come the playoffs. You can tell the Miami Heat is Spoelstras entire life. These superstars have only been playing together since summertime, and they're tearing up the NBA. Imagine how the Heat will look in 2012? Ofcourse I expect Spoelstra to get left out, being surrounded by all these NBA powerhouses. You gotta give credit where credit is due.

They're "tearing up the NBA"?



0-3 against Boston
0-2 against Dallas
They have solid wins at Orlando, Oklahoma City and LA -- other than that, who exactly have they beaten?

[Shroom]

Look at the Cavs team that took the Celtics to 6 games last year. same team that has won 10 games this year. Wade and Lebron have both played in the finals, they thrive on the postseason. Boston is old. If they have a tough first couple rounds it will be hard for them.

The regular season doesn't mean anything just remember that. Miami will win the championship and if not Lakers will take it.

[rsnnh12]

Look at the Cavs team that took the Celtics to 6 games last year. same team that has won 10 games this year. Wade and Lebron have both played in the finals, they thrive on the postseason. Boston is old. If they have a tough first couple rounds it will be hard for them.

The regular season doesn't mean anything just remember that. Miami will win the championship and if not Lakers will take it.

Are you serious? That Cavs team also had Lebron, Anderson Varejao, Big Z, Shaq, and Mo Williams.... hardly the same team as now (yes, I know Varejao and Mo are still there, but they've been injured all year).

The only guys slowed down by their age are Pierce, KG, and Shaq. Ray is in better shape than 95% of the NBA. If the Heat can't beat the Celtics when they are missing 3 of their 4 big men, their backup SF, and their #3 guard, how can they do it when the Cs are healthy? It is apparent that Doc is prepping this team for the playoffs by making injured players fully heal before letting them play. The Celtics will be in much better shape by the playoffs, barring any catastrophic injuries to 1 of their starters.

Heat need a legitimate big man and/or PG before they will be serious contenders

[Shroom]

Jordan never needed a big man. Boston can't guard Wade and Lebron over 7 games. They can do it one at a time, but not in a series. Shaq was horrible in the playoffs last year. The difference is not big Z. The Heat have big Z right now. The Heat don't even have Haslem- thats 10 points and 8 boards a game there. Him and Garnett always go at it. I'm telling you that Lebron and Wade are not going to lose to Boston in the playoffs.

Are you going to ask pierce to guard Lebron for 7 games? who's going to guard Lebron when pierce is not in the game marquis daniels? Come on.

[Shroom]

I'm going by statistics as well. Wade was able to push Boston around in last year playoffs at times by himself. A few games were close if i remember and the heat even won one behind like 50 from wade. Lebron usually plays good against the celtics in the playoffs but falls short. It'll be a great series. an instant classic

[rsnnh12]

Jordan never needed a big man. Boston can't guard Wade and Lebron over 7 games. They can do it one at a time, but not in a series. Shaq was horrible in the playoffs last year. The difference is not big Z. The Heat have big Z right now. The Heat don't even have Haslem- thats 10 points and 8 boards a game there. Him and Garnett always go at it. I'm telling you that Lebron and Wade are not going to lose to Boston in the playoffs.

Are you going to ask pierce to guard Lebron for 7 games? who's going to guard Lebron when pierce is not in the game marquis daniels? Come on.

They'll mix it up, just like they have so far this year. Did you see Rondo pretty much shut Lebron down on Sunday? And Wade hasn't done shit against the Cs so far this year... they do a great job of slowing him down.

Okay, the Heat are missing Haslem. Celts are missing Shaq, Jermaine O'Neal, Semih, Delonte, and now Marquis... any one of those guys is as good or better than Haslem.

[rsnnh12]

I'm going by statistics as well. Wade was able to push Boston around in last year playoffs at times by himself. A few games were close if i remember and the heat even won one behind like 50 from wade. Lebron usually plays good against the celtics in the playoffs but falls short. It'll be a great series. an instant classic

I have no doubt it will be a great series, but the Heat just aren't good or deep enough to beat this Celtics team this year. I think the Heat will be lucky to bring it to a Game 6.

Next year should have epic playoffs tho... potential last run for Boston Big 3, plus Heat/Bulls another year older and better, and the Knicks/Magic as potential great teams too

[Shroom]

They'll mix it up, just like they have so far this year. Did you see Rondo pretty much shut Lebron down on Sunday? And Wade hasn't done shit against the Cs so far this year... they do a great job of slowing him down.

Okay, the Heat are missing Haslem. Celts are missing Shaq, Jermaine O'Neal, Semih, Delonte, and now Marquis... any one of those guys is as good or better than Haslem.

haslem is way better then all those guys.

lol are you series? Rondo is going to shut down Lebron in the playoffs? I'm done with this conversation. Good day sir

[lyon804]

haslem is way better then all those guys.

lol are you series? Rondo is going to shut down Lebron in the playoffs? I'm done with this conversation. Good day sir

Good points. I like your way of thinking and I am glad you are back posting here. You know that I know right??? Same strong knowledge and opinions that revolve around the same exact things and you are adament about it and cocksure Paul said you was Chris and I went with it but that was an insult. Good to have you back around.

[Pauulzcappin]

Good points. I like your way of thinking and I am glad you are back posting here. You know that I know right??? Same strong knowledge and opinions that revolve around the same exact things and you are adament about it and cocksure Paul said you was Chris and I went with it but that was an insult. Good to have you back around.

Fill me in brother

[Dexter]

haslem is way better then all those guys.

lol are you series? Rondo is going to shut down Lebron in the playoffs? I'm done with this conversation. Good day sir

lol....such a hard on for the heat.

[No coincidences]

haslem is way better then all those guys.

lol are you series? Rondo is going to shut down Lebron in the playoffs? I'm done with this conversation. Good day sir

You could at least throw up a few head fakes, Goat.

[lyon804]

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recent point history

[lakerboy]

http://store.sbrforum.com/points/log/Shroom

[lyon804]

I was waiting for this to happen. Goatmilk told Paul in his thread that he was going to create a new name soon maybe less than a week ago. As coiner pointed out Goat didn't even put up a head fake. He posted a winner last nite as well on Utah in his same standard $200 bet fashion. You can't make this up. I like goat and want him posting here as long as he is CIVIL, but what bothers me is he thinks everybody is dumb when not everybody is. You can see it in his post and the fact he did nothing to get somebody off his scent is remarkable. I would have least put up an act if I was getting a new ghost started and then ease into the HEAT talk "and nobody on the Celtics can guard Wade and Bron-Bron for 7 games" PRICELESS. Made my day, Thanks again for all you do Goat

[hawley]

Jordan never needed a big man. Boston can't guard Wade and Lebron over 7 games. They can do it one at a time, but not in a series. Shaq was horrible in the playoffs last year. The difference is not big Z. The Heat have big Z right now. The Heat don't even have Haslem- thats 10 points and 8 boards a game there. Him and Garnett always go at it. I'm telling you that Lebron and Wade are not going to lose to Boston in the playoffs.

Are you going to ask pierce to guard Lebron for 7 games? who's going to guard Lebron when pierce is not in the game marquis daniels? Come on.

I agree with you there Lyon

This was the dead give away

[AZ*SUN*iBET4FUN]

All this Sh1t doesn't even Matter

Spurs Win it All under the radar!

[BetterBizness]

They're "tearing up the NBA"?



0-3 against Boston
0-2 against Dallas
They have solid wins at Orlando, Oklahoma City and LA -- other than that, who exactly have they beaten?

like I said previous... this is where the value comes... it's not who they beat now, but who they will beat in the future... They are younger, faster, and more talented then the Celts, and in a 7 game series, smartness will win 3, but in the end, the regime of Green will end... and again, I'm FAR from a Heat fan, but I think there is great value there ... Boom line is they don't NEED to beat anyone in the first 50 games... hel even the first 80 games... just afterwards where they will beat up .500 teams until they reach the East final...

[Dexter]

All this Sh1t doesn't even Matter

Spurs Win it All under the radar!

Bulls take it!! wait till Noah comes back!! lol

seriously...if i were to make a futures bet right now, i would take a shot with chi. LA, SA, Mia, and Bos all have their question marks.

[lyon804]

Bulls take it!! wait till Noah comes back!! lol

seriously...if i were to make a futures bet right now, i would take a shot with chi. LA, SA, Mia, and Bos all have their question marks.

And that's why I said in this thread that CHI poses the biggest threat to the Heat in the EAST not named Boston. Goat tells me CHI would be lucky to win 2 games. Maybe he is right but look at this... CHI PG Trumps Heat PG. CHI interior offense/defense Trumps Heat. Chicago Bench Trumps Miami Bench. Well that leaves Bron-Bron and Wade to have to go nuts nite in and nite out to win the series. I personally think the rest of the Heat will be a complete non-factor agaisnt CHI and that will be tough to overcome.

[Dexter]

if i had a gun to my head, i would take the lakers.

[lyon804]

if i had a gun to my head, i would take the lakers.

I just really don't think they can "turn it on" this year for the playoffs. I am not sure there is that extra gear out there for them. There starting 5 is very beatable, Lamar Odum is the X-Facor and a luxury to bring that kinda player off the bench but for the most part there bench sucks or is average at best. Matt Barnes returns will help but I just don't know if they have it. They have become an "old team" very quickly with all there contributing players 30+ yrs old now. Bynum isn't but obviously with his knee he moves like hi is 30+ yrs old. In the end they are the Lakers and with Kobe, the length they have and experience are definitely "ripe" to be taken out this year. You can only win so many championships with Derek Fisher as a starting PG.

[Dexter]

I just really don't think they can "turn it on" this year for the playoffs. I am not sure there is that extra gear out there for them. There starting 5 is very beatable, Lamar Odum is the X-Facor and a luxury to bring that kinda player off the bench but for the most part there bench sucks or is average at best. Matt Barnes returns will help but I just don't know if they have it. They have become an "old team" very quickly with all there contributing players 30+ yrs old now. Bynum isn't but obviously with his knee he moves like hi is 30+ yrs old. In the end they are the Lakers and with Kobe, the length they have and experience are definitely "ripe" to be taken out this year. You can only win so many championships with Derek Fisher as a starting PG.

yeah, fisher and artest are pure garbage now...

has artest still been a shut down defender?

[lyon804]

[quote=Dexter;8848877]yeah, fisher and artest are pure garbage now...

has artest still been a shut down defender?[/quote]


It depends. But no not lately against the elite players/scorers. He is a shell of his former self back when stars wanted a nite off rather than go against him. Artest was really the best ever in his prime at locking down scorers. He has held some of the best to games of single digits in his prime... Back when Latrell Sprewell was an All Star top caliber player he held him to 2 pts in a game. Artest held quite a few to horrible single digit scoring nites. His motor cant run like that now all game.

[STAY STRONG]

boston > miami

[Pauulzcappin]

I like Goat around. He doesn't need the points I just hope SBR keeps letting him post.