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  • HoulihansTX
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    • 02-12-09
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    #1
    Lebron James is the best player in Basketball
    Its not even debatable.

    I'm just looking at all the clowns, and washed up players on the Heat

    Eddie House(not even a good three point shooter anymore.
    Erik Dampier(Borderline NBA player
    Juwan Howard(Sam age as my mom) Seriously
    James Jones
    Joel Anthony
    Mario Chalmers

    everybody outside of D-Wade


    Team is full of losers, and they are a contender. Its amazing
  • Pauulzcappin
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    • 04-23-10
    • 20295

    #2
    Lebron James is the best player in Basketball

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    • Pauulzcappin
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      • 04-23-10
      • 20295

      #3
      He plays with another TOP-3 player in the WORLD. Bosh is also a good piece... Kobe played with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown.
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      • CHAZ
        SBR MVP
        • 12-09-09
        • 4978

        #4
        Knicks are doing a great job holding him down tonight...

        So far
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        • yurnero
          SBR High Roller
          • 12-02-10
          • 215

          #5
          Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
          He plays with another TOP-3 player in the WORLD. Bosh is also a good piece... Kobe played with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown.
          LOL? so you are ignoring gasol odom bynum and the best coach EVER in the nba to boot?
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          • MrShrink
            SBR MVP
            • 01-19-10
            • 1054

            #6
            Originally posted by yurnero
            LOL? so you are ignoring gasol odom bynum and the best coach EVER in the nba to boot?
            ok... i'm so confused

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            • bonduforlife
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              • 08-21-10
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              #7
              100% no one is even in his class.
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              • Pauulzcappin
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                • 04-23-10
                • 20295

                #8
                Gasol is a debate to be in the TOP-25.

                Bryant
                Lebron
                Wade

                That's the TOP 3, you can only debate on the order.
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                • og4667
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-17-09
                  • 2438

                  #9
                  for sure, look at what he did for the cavs and how bad they are now. he is the Best in a lot of ways but until he gets a ring he ain't in my definition the best. Playoffs are what people remember you for, he should his soon though.
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                  • HoulihansTX
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                    • 02-12-09
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
                    Kobe played with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown.
                    And they didnt make the playoffs


                    Hence the reason the made wholesale changes, and drafted Bynum in the Lottery. Then traded for Pau Gasol, which was pretty much theft.
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                    • Pauulzcappin
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                      • 04-23-10
                      • 20295

                      #11
                      Yes they did. 2006
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                      • HoulihansTX
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                        • 02-12-09
                        • 30566

                        #12
                        Ousted in first round, by the Suns.
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                        • HoulihansTX
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                          • 02-12-09
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                          #13
                          At one time Kobe was the best player.

                          Now he is just the most accomplished player.
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                          • kobefanatic
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-19-10
                            • 9013

                            #14
                            look at their roster back then odom as their 2nd best player, 3rd best was luke, how can you compare this heat team to that lakers team
                            wade>>odom the next best player even though it's debatable with who's team is that
                            big Z/ anthony = at most with kwame cake hands
                            arroyo> slight advantage smush
                            bosh>>>>> radmanovic
                            bench
                            dampier i would take him over cook,mihm
                            james jones>>>> mo evans
                            chalmer>>>> over vujab!tch any day
                            joel anthony< young bynum
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                            • HoulihansTX
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                              • 02-12-09
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by kobefanatic
                              look at their roster back then odom as their 2nd best player, 3rd best was luke, how can you compare this heat team to that lakers team wade>>odom the next best player even though it's debatable with who's team is that big Z/ anthony = at most with kwame cake hands arroyo> slight advantage smush bosh>>>>> radmanovic bench dampier i would take him over cook,mihm james jones>>>> mo evans chalmer>>>> over vujab!tch any day joel anthony< young bynum
                              When Bron played for the Cavs his best player was Mo Williams.


                              Either way I'm not comparing those teams, PAulCap is.

                              Lebron is the Best in basketball. If you try to argue it, then you just have a bias toward your favorite player, whoever that may be.
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                              • kobefanatic
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                                • 01-19-10
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                And they didnt make the playoffs


                                Hence the reason the made wholesale changes, and drafted Bynum in the Lottery. Then traded for Pau Gasol, which was pretty much theft.
                                kobe got injured during the end of 04-05 season that's why they got bynum, that 04-05 lakers roster is good but nowhere near this heat team, picking up butler and odom through the shaq trade was pretty decent but not awesome
                                do you think marc gasol turned out to be a bum? marc is a pretty good player now
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                                • kobefanatic
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                                  • 01-19-10
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                  When Bron played for the Cavs his best player was Mo Williams.


                                  Either way I'm not comparing those teams, PAulCap is.

                                  Lebron is the Best in basketball. If you try to argue it, then you just have a bias toward your favorite player, whoever that may be.
                                  that's a decent group he had during his time with the cavs, better than what kobe had before he had pau and bynum turning it around

                                  let's see in a couple of years if he's really the best( when he loses some of his athleticism)
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                                  • texhooper
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                                    • 01-05-09
                                    • 10001

                                    #18
                                    man take lebron james off a team and you have a VASTLY different team...cleveland, best record regular season 2 years in a row, then take him away, you have the worst. it's not even debatable how valuable he is, as much as i hate to admit it. for my money kobe is still the coldest active player, the guy i want on my team more than anyone else because he has been to the top numerous times and knows what it takes to get there, but i don't know that anyone in history has the ability to lift a team like james does.

                                    i was just telling my cousin this the other day houli, nice to see you on the same page man.
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                                    • bretb27
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 03-21-10
                                      • 714

                                      #19
                                      i may not even put lebron in my top 5. and I certainly won't put him top 3 until he improves his FT%
                                      >54%
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                                      • HoulihansTX
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by kobefanatic
                                        that's a decent group he had during his time with the cavs, better than what kobe had before he had pau and bynum turning it around let's see in a couple of years if he's really the best( when he loses some of his athleticism)
                                        That make no sense. So you want to know how good a player is, when they are no longer in their prime???
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                                        • kobefanatic
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                                          • 01-19-10
                                          • 9013

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by texhooper
                                          man take lebron james off a team and you have a VASTLY different team...cleveland, best record regular season 2 years in a row, then take him away, you have the worst. it's not even debatable how valuable he is, as much as i hate to admit it. for my money kobe is still the coldest active player, the guy i want on my team more than anyone else because he has been to the top numerous times and knows what it takes to get there, but i don't know that anyone in history has the ability to lift a team like james does.

                                          i was just telling my cousin this the other day houli, nice to see you on the same page man.
                                          same can be argued with taking off kobe in his 04-06 team, besides shaq and big Z left as well, varejao got injured, mo having a mysterious injury, anthony parker injured as well, moon out too, and they signed alonzo gee, manny harris 2 dleaguers, got their 09 draft pick eyenga who is a nobody
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                                          • kobefanatic
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                                            • 01-19-10
                                            • 9013

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                            That make no sense. So you want to know how good a player is, when they are no longer in their prime???
                                            jordan was still dominant even he was past his prime, kobe is in the middle of his prime, think not the 05-07 prime kobe anymore, but these 2 guys can still play at a high level, take a look at jordan during the 96-98 he was still able to dominate the game back then, and kobe right now he can still play at a competitive level right now against the new generation superstars unlike most of his batchmates/ players during his era,
                                            iverson( overseas), marbury(china????), tmac( role player in detroit), VC( not even an all star), ray allen ( still a good shooter but no longer as good as before) pierce ( not as good as before) kg( still good but not great) nash( good PG but not the player he once was) duncan ( no longer the sole reason of spurs' success)
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                                            • kobefanatic
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                                              • 01-19-10
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                                              #23
                                              with the exception of kobe can those guys from the 95-99 still hang with the new kids right now?
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                                              • Pew Pew
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-21-10
                                                • 2267

                                                #24
                                                Dang yo mama is still young? Were you unplanned or something?

                                                j.k. no hatin
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                                                • Grind House
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-01-10
                                                  • 1405

                                                  #25
                                                  He can be the best player all he wants. Just tell him to win some shit and quit choking in the playoffs since is the best player and all.
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                                                  • texhooper
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                                                    • 01-05-09
                                                    • 10001

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by kobefanatic
                                                    same can be argued with taking off kobe in his 04-06 team, besides shaq and big Z left as well, varejao got injured, mo having a mysterious injury, anthony parker injured as well, moon out too, and they signed alonzo gee, manny harris 2 dleaguers, got their 09 draft pick eyenga who is a nobody
                                                    if lebron's there they're still contending for good playoff position. don't kid yourself dude. this ain't about homerism, this is about the truth.
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                                                    • Bradyd
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                                                      • 12-19-08
                                                      • 1067

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Grind House
                                                      He can be the best player all he wants. Just tell him to win some shit and quit choking in the playoffs since is the best player and all.
                                                      Lebron chokes in the playoffs? Outside of a few bad games, that EVERYONE has, Lebron has been nothing short of dominant...
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                                                      • kobefanatic
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 01-19-10
                                                        • 9013

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by texhooper
                                                        if lebron's there they're still contending for good playoff position. don't kid yourself dude. this ain't about homerism, this is about the truth.
                                                        this is an injury riddled cavs team right now but if they're healthy, it is a pretty decent team IMO, certainly not the team with the worst record, mo, varejao, jamison, hickson is a pretty decent team with sessions, graham, anthony parker, moon, better than what the lakers have outside of kobe in 05-07, odom is better than all of these players that the rest of the team are SHIT luke,kwame,cook,mihm,smush,mckie,evans,r admanovic
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                                                        • Le_Donk
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 02-13-10
                                                          • 627

                                                          #29
                                                          lol that some people think that kobe is the best player in the nba ( he even never was the best on his team btw ). its no wonder that so many lose at sports betting
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                                                          • Le_Donk
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 02-13-10
                                                            • 627

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by kobefanatic
                                                            jordan was still dominant even he was past his prime, kobe is in the middle of his prime, think not the 05-07 prime kobe anymore, but these 2 guys can still play at a high level, take a look at jordan during the 96-98 he was still able to dominate the game back then, and kobe right now he can still play at a competitive level right now against the new generation superstars unlike most of his batchmates/ players during his era,
                                                            iverson( overseas), marbury(china????), tmac( role player in detroit), VC( not even an all star), ray allen ( still a good shooter but no longer as good as before) pierce ( not as good as before) kg( still good but not great) nash( good PG but not the player he once was) duncan ( no longer the sole reason of spurs' success)
                                                            ray allen is shooting at a carrer high FG % , same goes for paul pierce
                                                            steve nash is putting up almost the same numbers he had in his mvp years, his teammates just suck
                                                            agree on duncan, i think reason for the spzrs' success this year are parker and ginnobli, but tim duncan is still a beast.
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                                                            • kobefanatic
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-19-10
                                                              • 9013

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Le_Donk
                                                              ray allen is shooting at a carrer high FG % , same goes for paul pierce
                                                              steve nash is putting up almost the same numbers he had in his mvp years, his teammates just suck
                                                              agree on duncan, i think reason for the spzrs' success this year are parker and ginnobli, but tim duncan is still a beast.
                                                              ray allen and pierce are having a good FG % because they don't attempt that many shots anymore and they are not the clear cut best players on their team anymore, they are also attempting fewer shots, the celtics best player can be argued either way no more clear cut number 1, it can be rondo or KG
                                                              steve nash isn't the player he once was, but i do agree his teammates suck
                                                              duncan is an all star although not the duncan of old
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                                                              • kobefanatic
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                                                                • 01-19-10
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Le_Donk
                                                                lol that some people think that kobe is the best player in the nba ( he even never was the best on his team btw ). its no wonder that so many lose at sports betting
                                                                never the best on his team
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                                                                • SR
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                                                                  • 09-10-08
                                                                  • 1317

                                                                  #33
                                                                  lebron is a marketing gimmick
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                                                                  • krazey47409
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                                                                    • 11-04-09
                                                                    • 2431

                                                                    #34
                                                                    i got miami winning it this year I like lebron and wade and bosh all healthy in postseason you can take it to the bank but you cant argue lebron the best because the man still dosent have a ring and stats dont matter being the champ and winning does but lebron wade bosh look like a good start to a great dynasty
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                                                                    • bonduforlife
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                                                                      • 08-21-10
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      being a BACK TO BACK MVP means u r kinda good
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