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#3362NBA 8PM 1/20
dallas mavs +4 buy the hook 2x i know they played la hard but the bulls w/o boozer and noah means the 59-38 reb edge that the bulls had last game is going to be lower.they have a good no days rest ats record on the road. plus they looked inspired last night and i think that a bulls club gets off to a early start but catch them once dallas get there legs together .
0 Days Rest W/L ATS AF AA Total O/U DAL 6-2 5-3-0 96.9 95.1 192.0 5-3 CHI 9-4 6-6-1 99.8 94.5 194.2 6-7Comment -
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#3363NBA 10 PM `1/20
portland ml 2x upped 1x PORTLAND IS NASTY AT HOME THIS YEAR CONSIDERING THEY LOST ROY ,BUT I THINK THEY SHOULD DUMP HIM ANYWAY THERE BETTER WITHOUT HIM !THE CLIPPERS HAVE PLAYED ADMIRABLY LAST 5 GAMES OR SO BUT THEY DO SVCK ON THE ROAD! NBA
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#33649PM 1/20
wiskey 1x -14
zona +10 1x
zona /wash over 154 1x lost by 1
vtech +61x
ZAGS -8 1X
wtf
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#3365NHL 1/20
San jose sharks .5x +135 they have lost twice already to vancouver but it's very hard to beat a team 3 times straight in any sport.hard to win 3 in a row comes thru!
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#336610 pm games 1/20
cal riverside -4 1x cal poly surprise win
portland -3 1x
nevada -3 1x
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#3367Glad to see someone else on Nevada!Comment -
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#3368wow that was a bad start to the portland game but the 5games in 6days caught up to the clippers.Comment -
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#3369PORtlands only scoring option is aldridge and he's not going to cut it tonight i'll give it a half but portland looks over matched alreadyComment -
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#3370wow that day was bound to happen sorry fellas !Comment -
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#3371LEANS SO FAR
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#3372By Ted Sevransky
- January 20, 2011 4:07PM ET
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In this week’s edition of College Hoops Notes & Quotes I’ll look at a trio of ‘under-the-radar’ teams, well outside the national spotlight. Two of these teams are pointspread juggernauts here in 2001; the third has been an ATS disaster area. Will the current trends continue? Read on to find out.
Flyers Flying Under the Radar
Like so many college basketball teams at this time of the year, Dayton’s pointspread value is still being affected by things that happened months ago. The Flyers got blown out at Cincinnati just after Thanksgiving, losing 68-34. They followed that loss with a home loss to East Tennessee State. The betting markets haven’t forgiven them for either loss, but the Flyers have gotten much better. That’s why Dayton is 8-2 ATS in their last ten games, with both ATS losses coming in the role of a favorite.
In their preferred role (as road underdogs in hostile environments against quality foes), Brian Gregory’s squad has been money in the bank. The Flyers covered the number in a SU win at Seton Hall as eight point dogs. They covered the number at Old Dominion: at +11.5, Dayton lost by three. At Ole Miss, catching 6.5 points, Dayton won outright in overtime. The Flyers won outright at St Louis as short dogs, and lost by only five at Xavier last weekend in another wire-2-wire spread cover.
The betting markets don’t tend to like freshmen point guards, particularly on the highway. But Dayton has an emerging talent at the point in Juwan Staten, one of the Top 15 recruits in the country at his position this past offseason. Head coach Brian Gregory talking about his star guard after last Saturday’s tight loss at Xavier: “He played well. I asked him to get on the glass for us, and he got three defensive rebounds. And he can become a really quality defender. And I thought he was in control offensively.”
Gregory, talking about his team’s collective toughness: “This team has some toughness, some grit. It’s becoming our calling card when we need it.” With a pair of senior starters up front in Chris Wright and Devin Searcy, and four juniors getting major minutes as well, the Flyers have the experience to compensate for their youth at the point guard position. Dayton wins with defense and rebounding; two commodities not likely to be overvalued by the betting markets anytime soon.
Hilltoppers Falling off a Cliff
Western Kentucky has completely fallen apart over the last month, turning the preseason Sun Belt favorite into a ‘bet against’ squad at every reasonable opportunity. The Hilltoppers have lost six straight and nine of their last eleven. Head coach Ken McDonald seems to have no answers – they just lost SU by 14 points against a Troy squad that entered the game with a 2-13 SU mark, falling into last place with the defeat. They followed that clunker with a home loss to Florida Atlantic, a game they trailed by 14 points eight minutes into the contest, never enjoying a lead at any point.
Prior to that, Western Kentucky suffered their first-ever loss at home to Denver, falling SU as nine point chalk. In fact, the Hilltoppers have a losing SU record at home this year, a rarity for a team came within one second of the Sweet 16 two years ago in McDonald’s first season on the job.
When a program falls hard and fast, like Western Kentucky’s has done, the betting markets struggle to adjust quickly enough. This team lacks any semblance of poise and confidence. McDonald used all the coaching tricks prior to the Troy game, like the old classic move of taking his players names of their jerseys. This quote from the head coach tells a clear story of a team I want to fade.
“Our mindset is just not there. We don’t have enough to keep our defensive mindset for a full game. We’ve done it in spurts, but not for a whole game. Every good Hilltopper team over the years has had a team that’s hustled on the defensive end. We’ve tried to push every button we can to get everyone to go. You get the sense that we don’t play as a team.”
Senior forward Steffphon Pettigrew: “Once we face adversity, we just all fall apart. We’ve got to find it within ourselves to put two halves together and come together as a team. With all this talent, there has to be character that goes with it. You can have all the talent in the world, but if you don’t have character, you don’t have much. And we don’t have that right now.”
Truly Ram Tough
If you’re looking for an undervalued commodity in the Mountain West, you’ve found it. Colorado State has been a second tier team (at best) in this conference for the better part of the last decade. This year, however, the Rams are legitimate competitors, but the betting markets have yet to offer much respect.
The numbers don’t lie: Colorado State is 8-1 ATS in their last nine games.
Colorado State has been at their best ATS on the highway. They’ve covered road games all year long, winning outright at Denver, San Francisco and Dominican, taking Colorado to overtime, and covering the spread in surprisingly competitive defeats at Kansas and New Mexico. The Rams beat Southern Miss, Ole Miss and Appalachian State to win their Christmas tournament in Cancun.
This team is mentally resilient and physically tough, plain and simple, as we saw clearly on Wednesday Night when dominated mighty UNLV with a wire-2-wire road win as 13 point underdogs. Colorado State head coach Tim Miles: “I think we can beat any team, anywhere on any night.”
Miles talked about the difference between last year’s team that lost by 31 here in Vegas and this year’s team. (Last year) “UNLV jumped on us and we stopped. We quit. This team doesn't do that. We're more resilient.”
UNLV head coach Lon Kruger agreed, and that was before the Rams won SU at the Thomas and Mack center here in Las Vegas. “It's a different club right now. Tim has done a fantastic job. They have gotten better each year, and now, probably for the first time, he feels like he's got his guys in there and they're playing hard and playing well.”
But the Rams couldn’t beat UNLV on their last trip to Las Vegas; a truly ugly 31 point blowout loss at the Thomas and Mack Center. Miles: “UNLV jumped on us and we stopped. We quit. This team doesn't do that. We're more resilient.” That resiliency was on full display at New Mexico last week when the Rams fell behind early but battled back and hung tough in a seven point loss at the Pit in Albuquerque.
Colorado State is a senior laden team. Senior forwards Andy Ogide and Travis Franklin; senior guard Adam Nigon, Iowa State transfer Wes Eikmeier and star sophomore Dorian Green make up the starting five, and there’s solid depth behind that unit. The betting markets haven’t seemed to take notice just yet, offering continued value with the Rams moving forComment -
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#3373no siena
belmont -19 .5x
canisus +5 1x
are leans not plays yet what do you guys think?Comment -
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#3374Yesterday seemed like a real sketchy day bean I only had 1 play but didn't post it had Santa Clara plus the points 2x you'll get em back todayComment -
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#3375Siena is awful don't trust them not the same siena of pastComment -
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#3376I like valpa right now could c 12 pt win and like Belmont 1hComment -
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#3377ya valpo i like i think dd win to not betting it.
siena i got confused with another team for second your right they do svck compared to the teams of the last couple years.Comment -
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#3378nba
suns +1 1x
lakers -1 1x
hornets +4.5 1x
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#3379adding
det +2 1x old guys are looking good with tracy at the point and they lost by 2w/this year at jersey and everyone was hurt then and they are in a groove right now .
houston +4 1x the guards of houston will be to much to handle for conley and young.
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#3380what up slimesLETS GET ITComment -
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#3381whats up sonny not touching the ncaa tonight glComment -
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#3383Detroit Pistons +2 5x
New Orleans Hornets +4 5x
Boston Celtics -6 5x
Florida Panthers ML 5X
Boston Celtics -2
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#3384lets get buddyi like the celtics but al jefferson will have a good game he has something to prove for getting rid of him.
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#3385i've seen a lot of peeps on the 1st qu. in the celtics game is there a big edge or something?Comment -
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#3386jazz are playing like shit latelyComment -
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#3387Tsonga ml 5x
Cilic ml 5x
Sabres 3x
Montreal 3x
Hornets +4 3xComment -
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#3388Florida Panthers -1.5 +231 5xLETS GET ITComment -
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#3391if he is i might up itLETS GET ITComment -
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#3392cavs +6.5 5xLETS GET ITComment -
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#3393plays for tonight
[B]Butler -14 1/2 x5
Siena +1 x2
Niagara +16 x2
Valp. -9 x3
Canisius +4 1/2 x5
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#3394cash that bos 1st quarter 5xLETS GET ITComment -
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#3395No doubt my brother from another mutha thanks for schooling me to it sonny!man on fire denzel is starting is night of hot!! Go sonny! Might take the knicks at the half just watching it know with the celtics. Might 2nd half the celtics depending on the pts
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