[esulima]

Does anyone know if there's a web site that has the opening line when it first comes out ???

[IBetYou]

Vegas Insider will tell you the lines at all the line originators, including the Vegas hotels.

[esulima]

Vegas Insider will tell you the lines at all the line originators, including the Vegas hotels.

Yes but they are not the opening lines

[IBetYou]

Of course they are, that's why I called them line originators. Where do you imagine the lines are first created?

[Optional]

SBR Odds has openers for all supported books

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/bet.../line-history/

[teecee]

Very few of us will probably ever see an opportunity to get an opening line. When I see a number (Bears +4.5), I'll listen to VSIN and they'll talk about how it opened at +7. So on Monday, everyone will have already lost 2.5 points, magically, while a few lucky souls miraculously get a touchdown. I yell bullshit at my infotainment system everytime I listen to them talk about these wonderful openers.

[esulima]

Of course they are, that's why I called them line originators. Where do you imagine the lines are first created?

They are not the opening lines. For example Indiana opened at -2.5. When it first came out the lines on Vegasinsider are ajusted not when they first come out and neither is the sbr odds page

[esulima]

Very few of us will probably ever see an opportunity to get an opening line. When I see a number (Bears +4.5), I'll listen to VSIN and they'll talk about how it opened at +7. So on Monday, everyone will have already lost 2.5 points, magically, while a few lucky souls miraculously get a touchdown. I yell bullshit at my infotainment system everytime I listen to them talk about these wonderful openers.

You are correct ! Do you know where u can find them lines ??

[IBetYou]

You don't know what you're talking about. You want the lines but you don't know from whom/ where.

There isn't a singular line originator for the entire globe. Different consultancy firms release their odds at different times, and Vegas Insider relays that as does the SBR site to a lesser degree.

[Optional]

They are not the opening lines. For example Indiana opened at -2.5. When it first came out the lines on Vegasinsider are ajusted not when they first come out and neither is the sbr odds page

If it isn't a public line, then is it really an opener?

SBR Odds has the opening line the books put out for betting.

[IBetYou]

He's like a dog chasing it's tail

[teecee]

You are correct ! Do you know where u can find them lines ??

Circa in Las Vegas. Good luck