i compared kobe's career to a prime stackhouse and showed how close their numbers were stackhouse didn't have longevity but that doesn't take away from his skill set he had a very comparable skill set to kobe but he doesn't' anymore do you understand now
yeah whatever skill sets similar to kobe
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freelee
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#212
Originally posted by kobefanatic
what facts? stats? 1 season of stackhouse's stats compared to the stats of kobe's career? damn if you think they're skill sets are similar , anyway if stackhouse is that good he should be able to carry that wizards team to the playoffs when he was the top dog on that team
why kobe never carried he's bad teams in the playoffs
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kobefanatic
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#213
Originally posted by freelee
so is that a no? i can respect your opinion much more if you can admit kobe is a pretty awful defender
kobe's job is to score and not to defend, will phil jackson be stupid enough to let kobe waste his energy defending the opponent's best player?
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freelee
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#214
Originally posted by kobefanatic
kobe's job is to score and not to defend, will phil jackson be stupid enough to let kobe waste his energy defending the opponent's best player?
i agree it's just annoying to hear laker fans who probably don't even watch the game claim that kobe is a great defender who shuts down the other teams #1 guy
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kobefanatic
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#215
Originally posted by freelee
why kobe never carried he's bad teams in the playoffs
2005-2006, 2006-2007 the roster is horrible
PG-SMUSH PARKER
SG KOBE BRYANT
SF LUKE WALTON
PF LAMAR ODOM
C- KWAME BROWN
smush is not even in the league anymore, and kwame is a bench player on a bad pistons team isn't the roster those 2 years awful?
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kobefanatic
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#216
Originally posted by freelee
i agree it's just annoying to hear laker fans who probably don't even watch the game claim that kobe is a great defender who shuts down the other teams #1 guy
kobe can shut down opposing players if he wants to but not every game it's not his job
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freelee
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#217
Originally posted by kobefanatic
2005-2006, 2006-2007 the roster is horrible
PG-SMUSH PARKER
SG KOBE BRYANT
SF LUKE WALTON
PF LAMAR ODOM
C- KWAME BROWN
smush is not even in the league anymore, and kwame is a bench player on a bad pistons team isn't the roster those 2 years awful?
yes that's my point kobe couldn't carry a bad team in the playoffs so why would you expect Stackhouse to be able to
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kobefanatic
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#218
Originally posted by freelee
yes that's my point kobe couldn't carry a bad team in the playoffs so why would you expect Stackhouse to be able to
give me 1 player that could do it stackhouse? at least kobe made the playoffs, stackhouse can't even sniff the playoffs
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kobefanatic
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#219
i thought you're saying stackhouse is great and have similar skill sets with kobe? you should expect more from him, he should be able to carry that wizards team to the playoffs since the east isn't that strong earlier in the decade
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freelee
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#220
Originally posted by kobefanatic
kobe can shut down opposing players if he wants to but not every game it's not his job
that's a BS argument that sounds like it's coming from a little kid he could if he wanted to so he shouldn't get criticized fact is he doesn't
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freelee
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#221
Originally posted by kobefanatic
i thought you're saying stackhouse is great and have similar skill sets with kobe? you should expect more from him, he should be able to carry that wizards team to the playoffs since the east isn't that strong earlier in the decade
why would i expect more from him when i'm saying they're similiar they both couldn't win in the playoffs with crappy teams sounds like another similiarity to me
thanks for pointing it out
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kobefanatic
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#222
Originally posted by freelee
that's a BS argument that sounds like it's coming from a little kid he could if he wanted to so he shouldn't get criticized fact is he doesn't
better watch the game, kobe does it occasionally and not all the time
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williams22
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#223
All I want is an explanation as to why Kobe is taking 29 shots when he's been ice cold and only getting Gasol and Bynum a combined 19. This is why I hate Kobe.
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freelee
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#224
Originally posted by kobefanatic
better watch the game, kobe does it occasionally and not all the time
any examples? Everybody occasionally has good games defensively doesn't mean they're great defenders fact is kobe isn't trusted to guard the other teams best players like Jordan, Lebron, and now even Durant
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kobefanatic
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#225
Originally posted by freelee
why would i expect more from him when i'm saying they're similiar they both couldn't win in the playoffs with crappy teams sounds like another similiarity to me
thanks for pointing it out
kobe did win games in the playoffs with a crappy team even though not the series but stackhouse couldn't even sniff it how can that be similar? you're really stupid huh?
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freelee
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#226
Originally posted by williams22
All I want is an explanation as to why Kobe is taking 29 shots when he's been ice cold and only getting Gasol and Bynum a combined 19. This is why I hate Kobe.
because kobe cares about himself more than winning that's why the Lakers dynasty was so short lived they could have easily beaten that Pistons team but kobe didn't want to win as the second banana so tried to win the Finals MVP instead of trying to win the championship which i honestly think has never happened before
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kobefanatic
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#227
Originally posted by freelee
any examples? Everybody occasionally has good games defensively doesn't mean they're great defenders fact is kobe isn't trusted to guard the other teams best players like Jordan, Lebron, and now even Durant
no star player is stupid enough to guard the opposing team's top player the whole game, it's artest's job to do that why would phil let kobe guard them?
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kobefanatic
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#228
Originally posted by williams22
All I want is an explanation as to why Kobe is taking 29 shots when he's been ice cold and only getting Gasol and Bynum a combined 19. This is why I hate Kobe.
he did let us win with okc covering
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williams22
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#229
Kobe: 10 for 29
Gasol and Bynum: 13 for 19
Doesn't take a genius to figure out how the offense should be running here.
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freelee
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#230
Originally posted by kobefanatic
kobe did win games in the playoffs with a crappy team even though not the series but stackhouse couldn't even sniff it how can that be similar? you're really stupid huh?
yeah i remember they were up 3-1 against the Suns and what happened kobe choked an than quit how do laker fans defend this guy
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kobefanatic
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#231
Originally posted by freelee
yeah i remember they were up 3-1 against the Suns and what happened kobe choked an than quit how do laker fans defend this guy
they lost to a better suns team that year, the talent disparity is too huge, phoenix was a bad matchup for lakers that year, i didn't expect them to win 2 games in the playoffs that year, they were lucky to go up 3-1, stackhouse couldn't even go to the playoffs with him as the top dog
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freelee
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#232
Originally posted by kobefanatic
they lost to a better suns team that year, the talent disparity is too huge, phoenix was a bad matchup for lakers that year, i didn't expect them to win 2 games in the playoffs that year, they were lucky to go up 3-1, stackhouse couldn't even go to the playoffs with him as the top dog
Stackhouse's team went to the playoffs and won a game the next year but that's irrelevant only in a kobefanatic's mind would blowing a 3-1 lead in the playoffs be something to brag about for an "all time great"
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williams22
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#233
Losing the series after being up 3-1 and throwing the last game was one of the most pathetic displays of basketball in recent years.
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kobefanatic
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#234
Originally posted by freelee
Stackhouse's team went to the playoffs and won a game the next year but that's irrelevant only in a kobefanatic's mind would blowing a 3-1 lead in the playoffs be something to brag about for an "all time great"
01-02 pistons he had a good team that year , better than the lakers 05-06, 06-07 roster
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freelee
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#235
Originally posted by williams22
Losing the series after being up 3-1 and throwing the last game was one of the most pathetic displays of basketball in recent years.
agreed kobe quit against the Celtics two years ago he has a track record of not showing up in big games
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freelee
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#236
Originally posted by kobefanatic
01-02 pistons he had a good team that year , better than the lakers 05-06, 06-07 roster
losing in the first round is nothing to brag about especially if you're supposed to be an all time great
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kobefanatic
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#237
Originally posted by williams22
Losing the series after being up 3-1 and throwing the last game was one of the most pathetic displays of basketball in recent years.
did you honestly think lakers have a chance to beat the suns that year? they were a bad match up for lakers that time, it was lucky for them to be able to extend the series to 7 games
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freelee
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#238
Originally posted by kobefanatic
did you honestly think lakers have a chance to beat the suns that year? they were a bad match up for lakers that time, it was lucky for them to be able to extend the series to 7 games
they didn't extend anything the Suns extended the series to 7 games and kobe choked
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kobefanatic
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#239
Originally posted by freelee
losing in the first round is nothing to brag about especially if you're supposed to be an all time great
by your point you mean jordan has nothing to brag about when he lost in the 1st round of the playoffs? even jordan can't do it alone against a stronger team
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freelee
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#240
Originally posted by kobefanatic
by your point you mean jordan has nothing to brag about when he lost in the 1st round of the playoffs? even jordan can't do it alone against a stronger team
of course he has nothing to brag about losing in the first round of the playoffs Jordan would be the first guy to tell you that
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williams22
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#241
Originally posted by kobefanatic
did you honestly think lakers have a chance to beat the suns that year? they were a bad match up for lakers that time, it was lucky for them to be able to extend the series to 7 games
Logical arguments don't have a place with you huh? The Lakers were up 3-1 and LOST. Pitiful. Jordan never lost a first round series once he hit his prime.
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kobefanatic
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#242
Originally posted by freelee
they didn't extend anything the Suns extended the series to 7 games and kobe choked
they were able to win some games to make it a 7 game series, again all the kobe choke, they were in a bad spot that year, suns were a bad matchup for the lakers in those 2 years
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kobefanatic
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#243
Originally posted by williams22
Logical arguments don't have a place with you huh? The Lakers were up 3-1 and LOST. Pitiful. Jordan never lost a first round series once he hit his prime.
did you honestly expect them to be leading in that series? jordan had help when he hit his prime, he had pippen who's one of the top 50 players and horace grant in the 1st 3 peat, paxson, cartwright, kobe only have lamar odom and no one else in those 2 years
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williams22
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#244
Originally posted by kobefanatic
did you honestly expect them to be leading in that series? jordan had help when he hit his prime, he had pippen who's one of the top 50 players and horace grant in the 1st 3 peat, paxson, cartwright, kobe only have lamar odom and no one else in those 2 years
Listen, you can make all the excuses you want. The point is they were up 3-1 and lost. Not only that, but Kobe basically threw the last game of the series because of his selfishness. I don't know how you could possibly try to defend this.
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freelee
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#245
Originally posted by kobefanatic
did you honestly expect them to be leading in that series? jordan had help when he hit his prime, he had pippen who's one of the top 50 players and horace grant in the 1st 3 peat, paxson, cartwright, kobe only have lamar odom and no one else in those 2 years