So why dont you post the rule?!!!!!
It only says
** JM System requires the bettor to purchase 3 points on all spreads.**
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HotStaX
SBR MVP
12-07-11
1053
#177
Milwaukee bet was edited to a loss from the original win posted. Clerical error on the spread. Play all plays by buying 3 points.
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skyscrapers
SBR Hall of Famer
05-02-11
6167
#178
Official JM rules state to play the moneyline if the spread is -3 or greater. Milwaukee is a win.
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HotStaX
SBR MVP
12-07-11
1053
#179
** JM System requires the bettor to purchase 3 points on all spreads.**
V1
A 17-7
B 5-3
C 2-1
TTL: 24-1
V2
A 12-1
B 0-1
C 1-0
TTL: 13-0
V3
A 25-13-1
B 12-3
C 2-1
TTL: 38-1-1
JM TTL: 75-2-1 UNITS: +47.27
Results: 01/09 CLE vs DET V2 (A) - WIN
Today's plays: 01/10 MIL vs SAC V1 (C) 01/10 NO vs NYK V1 (A)
01/10 ORL vs PHO V1 (A)
01/10 CHA vs UTA V1 (A)
Pending plays:
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HotStaX
SBR MVP
12-07-11
1053
#180
Originally posted by skyscrapers
Official JM rules state to play the moneyline if the spread is -3 or greater. Milwaukee is a win.
I agree, originally that was not the case. Over the years the system kept having updates. I've left it with buying only 3 points regardless for two reasons, 1. Linesmen are like wizards, they tell the future lol 3 points should be enough. Look at the history so far this year, every game was purchased with 3 points. Its not bad at all. 2. -500, -800 or whatever is steep, ive taken hits in the past paying monster juice on plays. I will mitigate my loses by remaining conservative. -170 is still a bit steep however there will always be another game to play so over all, it works.
Lets keep the good mojo going!
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letsgetsome
SBR High Roller
03-23-19
106
#181
Originally posted by HotStaX
I agree, originally that was not the case. Over the years the system kept having updates. I've left it with buying only 3 points regardless for two reasons, 1. Linesmen are like wizards, they tell the future lol 3 points should be enough. Look at the history so far this year, every game was purchased with 3 points. Its not bad at all. 2. -500, -800 or whatever is steep, ive taken hits in the past paying monster juice on plays. I will mitigate my loses by remaining conservative. -170 is still a bit steep however there will always be another game to play so over all, it works.
Lets keep the good mojo going!
Stax, first of all, thanks for keeping track and posting the plays, but Sky is correct, as far as official book keeping goes, Milwaukee should be counted as a win. I also have Houston recorded as a win.
The V1 record should be 25-0. Here's a note from JM in regards on how a road favorite should be played, using Houston as an example back on 10/30/2019.
The Houston Rockets series started at the {A} bet where they were a -8 favorite, and ended up winning the game by 1 single point. The system manual clearly says that favorites of -3 or more are supposed to be wagered on using the money line bet.
However: I completely understand that not everyone is comfortable laying 3.5:1 odds on a -8 money line favorite, as was the case with the Rockets on 10/30. So if you wagered on the point spread and bought 3 points to bring the line to -5, then that's okay as well. There's nothing wrong with that. You just have to keep in mind that the official recordkeeping of the betting system will always be based on the money line if the team is at least a -3 favorite.
Again, there's nothing wrong with betting on the spread and buying 3 points on a heavy favorite if you don't like laying long odds...
What IS wrong, however, is that some bettors lost on the {A} bet by not betting on the money line. Then, they went on to double up and bet on the Rockets again on the {B} bet on their next game. They would lose that and then double up on the {C} game, and lost again. If that's what you did, then you are not using the system correctly.
The system manual clearly says that if you don't feel comfortable with taking big risks on heavy favorites on the money line, then you can just bet on the point spread and buy the points. But: You do NOT continue betting on the series if your team wins the game outright.
I clearly stated in the PDF of the system manual that it is not advisable to continue betting on a team in a series where they've managed to win a game outright, but fails to cover the spread. That's exactly what happened with the Houston Rockets series. Since the Rockets won the game outright, you were supposed to completely put a hard stop on the series.
Its been a good year so far for the 3 versions. Like you said, lets keep the mojo going!
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skyscrapers
SBR Hall of Famer
05-02-11
6167
#182
That's a very thorough explanation by Letsgetsome.
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J.M. Disciple
SBR Hall of Famer
11-16-10
5154
#183
Anyone have last years spread sheet (schedule)? Anyone have this years spread sheet (schedule)? I wanted to test a couple different betting methods.
@Skyscrapers were you around when someone came up with a 1-3-5 system for this? Maybe i'm mixing up wallcos chase110 or some MLB system. I remember someone using it to show more profit than the actual system without buying points.
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kilopro
SBR Hustler
07-20-16
63
#184
@JM Found reference to the 1-7-5 system. Is this the one you were referring to?
You're the man!!! See the 1-7-5 system out performs traditional system. Not sure why people stopped! Such a big improvement. Also not buying any points I believe.
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HotStaX
SBR MVP
12-07-11
1053
#187
** JM System requires the bettor to purchase 3 points on all spreads.**
V1
A 19-7
B 5-3
C 3-1
TTL: 27-1
V2
A 12-1
B 0-1
C 1-0
TTL: 13-0
V3
A 25-13-1
B 12-3
C 2-1
TTL: 38-1-1
JM TTL: 78-2-1 UNITS: +50.27
Results:
Today's plays: 01/12 CHA vs PHO V1 (B) 01/12 UTA vs WAS V2 (A)
Pending plays:
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HotStaX
SBR MVP
12-07-11
1053
#188
** JM System requires the bettor to purchase 3 points on all spreads.**
V1
A 19-7
B 6-3
C 3-1
TTL: 28-1
V2
A 13-1
B 0-1
C 1-0
TTL: 14-0
V3
A 25-13-1
B 12-3
C 2-1
TTL: 38-1-1
JM TTL: 80-2-1 UNITS: +52.27
Results: 01/12 CHA vs PHO V1 (B) - WIN 01/12 UTA vs WAS V2 (A) - WIN
Today's plays: NO PLAYS
Pending plays:
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HotStaX
SBR MVP
12-07-11
1053
#189
** JM System requires the bettor to purchase 3 points on all spreads.**
V1
A 19-7
B 6-3
C 3-1
TTL: 28-1
V2
A 13-1
B 0-1
C 1-0
TTL: 14-0
V3
A 25-13-1
B 12-3
C 2-1
TTL: 38-1-1
JM TTL: 80-2-1 UNITS: +52.27
Results:
Today's plays: 01/14 PHO vs ATL V1 (A)
Pending plays:
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Menahem777
SBR Rookie
03-23-12
30
#190
1-7-5 method means we bet to win 1 unit on A then 7 on B and 5 on C and also that we don’t buy points ?
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kilopro
SBR Hustler
07-20-16
63
#191
Be careful with the 1-7-5 system guys. I dug around a bit more and found the season results for 2013-2014 . I think there is a very good reason Wallco ended up sticking to his system over all the different variations of this chase over the years.
It's true you are not buying points and the profits can rise astronomically but this was a bloodbath.
Wallco chase in 13-14 was actually up 7 units even after 4+ losses. To each his own but good to share info.
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MexMamba
SBR High Roller
04-03-19
115
#192
Someone has tried to fade buying 3 points?
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HotStaX
SBR MVP
12-07-11
1053
#193
** JM System requires the bettor to purchase 3 points on all spreads.**
V1
A 19-7
B 6-3
C 3-1
TTL: 28-1
V2
A 13-1
B 0-1
C 1-0
TTL: 14-0
V3
A 25-13-1
B 12-3
C 2-1
TTL: 38-1-1
JM TTL: 80-2-1 UNITS: +52.27
Results: 01/14 PHO vs ATL V1 (A) - LOSS
Today's plays: 01/15 DET vs BOS V3 (A)
01/15 POR vs HOU V3 (A)
Pending plays: 01/15 PHO vs NYK V1 (B)
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letsgetsome
SBR High Roller
03-23-19
106
#194
Here's what I have in regards to buying 3 pts when wagering JM's V1 chase system plays so far this year;
7 series wins ( 6 official, 1 unofficial ) were secured when buying 3pts.
6 were at the A level and 1 at the C level.
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HotStaX
SBR MVP
12-07-11
1053
#195
** JM System requires the bettor to purchase 3 points on all spreads.**
V1
A 19-7
B 6-3
C 3-1
TTL: 28-1
V2
A 13-1
B 0-1
C 1-0
TTL: 14-0
V3
A 27-13-1
B 12-3
C 2-1
TTL: 40-1-1
JM TTL: 82-2-1 UNITS: +54.27
Results: 01/15 DET vs BOS V3 (A) - WIN
01/15 POR vs HOU V3 (A) - WIN
Today's plays: 01/16 PHO vs NYK V1 (B)
Pending plays:
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HotStaX
SBR MVP
12-07-11
1053
#196
** JM System requires the bettor to purchase 3 points on all spreads.**
V1
A 19-10
B 7-3
C 3-1
TTL: 29-1
V2
A 13-1
B 0-1
C 1-0
TTL: 14-0
V3
A 27-13-1
B 12-3
C 2-1
TTL: 40-1-1
JM TTL: 83-2-1 UNITS: +55.27
Results: 01/16 PHO vs NYK V1 (B) - WIN
Today's plays: NO PLAYS
Pending plays:
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HotStaX
SBR MVP
12-07-11
1053
#197
** JM System requires the bettor to purchase 3 points on all spreads.**
V1
A 19-10
B 7-3
C 3-1
TTL: 29-1
V2
A 13-1
B 0-1
C 1-0
TTL: 14-0
V3
A 27-13-1
B 12-3
C 2-1
TTL: 40-1-1
JM TTL: 83-2-1 UNITS: +55.27
Results:
Today's plays: 01/18 LAC vs NO V3 (A)
01/18 PHL vs NYK V3 (A)
01/18 LAL vs HOU V2 (A)
01/18 SAC vs UTA V2 (A)
Pending plays:
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HotStaX
SBR MVP
12-07-11
1053
#198
** JM System requires the bettor to purchase 3 points on all spreads.**
V1
A 19-10
B 7-3
C 3-1
TTL: 29-1
V2
A 14-2
B 0-1
C 1-0
TTL: 15-0
V3
A 29-13-1
B 12-3
C 2-1
TTL: 42-1-1
JM TTL: 86-2-1 UNITS: +58.27
Results: 01/18 LAC vs NO V3 (A) - WIN
01/18 PHL vs NYK V3 (A) - WIN
01/18 LAL vs HOU V2 (A) - WIN
01/18 SAC vs UTA V2 (A) - LOSS
Today's plays: 01/19 IND vs DEN V1 (A)