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  • PickoMoff
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-08-13
    • 638

    #1
    POR +2 vs DEN?? Am I missing something? Help me out here
    Why is Portland the underdog here? Are they that bad on the road or is Denver that good at home? Portland is the superior team IMO. Is someone out for POR? Did DEN get back a big piece? Some insight would be good! Thanks!

  • 44 Mag
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 10-14-13
    • 34490

    #2
    See aireent777 post.
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    • suicidekings
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 03-23-09
      • 9962

      #3
      5th game in 7 days
      Portland 0-2 on the road
      Sea level to high altitude for the second half of a B2B after a tough game last night

      I can see Portland starting well, but it's asking a lot for them to sustain a high energy level for the full game in this situation against a team that likes to run.
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      • Brutus84
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-08-11
        • 5188

        #4
        Because they played yesterday dummy
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        • R.P. McMurphy
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 06-15-12
          • 9654

          #5
          5th gm in 7.nights more of a red flag for me to stay away from Port than b2b. That and they had to overcome a huge deficit last night and probably exerted a little more energy on both ends grinding that one out. Nugs seem pretty bad this year and not clicking with new coach. Don't think I will be afraid of backing teams in b2b going into Denver this season especially a younger squad like Port. The Sac Queens did it recently after what had to be a big emotional win for them over Dippers. With the sum of all factors tho 5th in 7 and last night's grinder I would stay away from Port tonight.
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          • mtofell
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-21-13
            • 744

            #6
            Portland is young, early in the season, DEN is terrible. I was just listening to NBA radio on XM and they were talking about Bryan Shaw probably getting fired soon. DEN is a dumpster fire.... totally under achieving. I'm on POR for sure. I came in to make pretty much this exact post. I think the line is the reverse of what it should be.

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            • PickoMoff
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 07-08-13
              • 638

              #7
              Originally posted by 44 Mag
              See aireent777 post.
              Just read it thanks.
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              • PickoMoff
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 07-08-13
                • 638

                #8
                Originally posted by suicidekings
                5th game in 7 days
                Portland 0-2 on the road
                Sea level to high altitude for the second half of a B2B after a tough game last night

                I can see Portland starting well, but it's asking a lot for them to sustain a high energy level for the full game in this situation against a team that likes to run.
                Will have to do some more research on this "High altitude" angle and see. Doesn't seem like much to me especially seeing how BAD Denver is this season. If the team were at least close I would have considered it more.
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                • PickoMoff
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 07-08-13
                  • 638

                  #9
                  Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
                  5th gm in 7.nights more of a red flag for me to stay away from Port than b2b. That and they had to overcome a huge deficit last night and probably exerted a little more energy on both ends grinding that one out. Nugs seem pretty bad this year and not clicking with new coach. Don't think I will be afraid of backing teams in b2b going into Denver this season especially a younger squad like Port. The Sac Queens did it recently after what had to be a big emotional win for them over Dippers. With the sum of all factors tho 5th in 7 and last night's grinder I would stay away from Port tonight.
                  Fading Denver is the exact reason I love Portland. Denver is bottom 23-30 in the league IMO based on how they've been playing and Portland is top 10. So giving Portland +3 is something I can't pass up banking on an "b2b" and "high altitude" angle. And seeing that most of the money is coming in on Denver, I can say it ain't a "trap game".

                  BOL!
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                  • PickoMoff
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 07-08-13
                    • 638

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mtofell
                    Portland is young, early in the season, DEN is terrible. I was just listening to NBA radio on XM and they were talking about Bryan Shaw probably getting fired soon. DEN is a dumpster fire.... totally under achieving. I'm on POR for sure. I came in to make pretty much this exact post. I think the line is the reverse of what it should be.

                    This is the same way I feel buddy! I pounding Portland!

                    BOL!
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                    • PickoMoff
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 07-08-13
                      • 638

                      #11
                      Thank you for the input guys! Appreciate it!
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                      • SpreadSniper
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 02-17-09
                        • 6125

                        #12
                        the "high altitude" angle is something that has been around forever.... basically it says fade teams coming into Denver/Utah, having to play on the 2nd leg of a b2b. The lower they were the night before (in terms of altitude) the bigger the impact given their bodies don't have a chance to acclimatize to the adjustment in elevation whereas the home team (Nugs/Jazz) have been chilling in said conditions. The older the player the greater the supposed impact.
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                        • 44 Mag
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 10-14-13
                          • 34490

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PickoMoff
                          Just read it thanks.
                          In case you weren't with us last year, air.... is about the best on here for NBA. Never saw him do MLB or NFL, but he knows his shit in the NBA, even though it is early. Don't have to tail, but just watch him as the season goes, nobody sharper than him. BOL.
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                          • blstrick5
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 11-12-13
                            • 561

                            #14
                            I love Portland but Denver is the play here.
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                            • Covy
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-13-11
                              • 1433

                              #15
                              Portland in a pleaser tonight. If this team starts fast unlike last night, it's a long night for the Nuggets
                              [SIZE=2] [FONT=Arial]Listen, they only make movies about winners - and that's me![/FONT]
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                              • spankmythighs
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-26-10
                                • 2884

                                #16
                                Love the OVER here. Denver has 0 defense giving up 108 per game while still managing to score a 100 a gm.
                                sbr
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                                • suicidekings
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 03-23-09
                                  • 9962

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by PickoMoff
                                  Will have to do some more research on this "High altitude" angle and see. Doesn't seem like much to me especially seeing how BAD Denver is this season. If the team were at least close I would have considered it more.
                                  You can look back over records from many seasons and you'll find that over-worked teams going to altitude on a B2B do not tend to play very well. Salt Lake city has a similar benefit of altitude as Denver. There's also countless research done on the effects of altitude training on athletes that's relevant here.

                                  Doesn't mean Denver will win tonight, and being a recognized trend has led to adjustments made in the line for the effect. But like you say, it's a good reason to tread lightly on Portland moreso than to have faith in the Nuggets.
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                                  • PickoMoff
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 07-08-13
                                    • 638

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SpreadSniper
                                    the "high altitude" angle is something that has been around forever.... basically it says fade teams coming into Denver/Utah, having to play on the 2nd leg of a b2b. The lower they were the night before (in terms of altitude) the bigger the impact given their bodies don't have a chance to acclimatize to the adjustment in elevation whereas the home team (Nugs/Jazz) have been chilling in said conditions. The older the player the greater the supposed impact.
                                    Noted.
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                                    • PickoMoff
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 07-08-13
                                      • 638

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by 44 Mag
                                      In case you weren't with us last year, air.... is about the best on here for NBA. Never saw him do MLB or NFL, but he knows his shit in the NBA, even though it is early. Don't have to tail, but just watch him as the season goes, nobody sharper than him. BOL.
                                      Thanks, I will!
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                                      • PickoMoff
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 07-08-13
                                        • 638

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by suicidekings
                                        You can look back over records from many seasons and you'll find that over-worked teams going to altitude on a B2B do not tend to play very well. Salt Lake city has a similar benefit of altitude as Denver. There's also countless research done on the effects of altitude training on athletes that's relevant here.

                                        Doesn't mean Denver will win tonight, and being a recognized trend has led to adjustments made in the line for the effect. But like you say, it's a good reason to tread lightly on Portland moreso than to have faith in the Nuggets.
                                        Noted! Thanks!
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                                        • lore22
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 01-13-14
                                          • 34

                                          #21
                                          Hope you stuck to your guns!
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                                          • PickoMoff
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 07-08-13
                                            • 638

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by lore22
                                            Hope you stuck to your guns!
                                            Yea, I did! Thanks!
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                                            • PickoMoff
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 07-08-13
                                              • 638

                                              #23
                                              "High altitude" my a$$!
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