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  • tdotcotez
    SBR High Roller
    • 12-11-08
    • 135

    #71
    Gotta have faith in the system... morrison still is recommending these games and there are no stars on the play.
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    • ANDYW15
      SBR MVP
      • 07-28-08
      • 1254

      #72
      Wow, I think I am in the complete miniority with the consensus on my picks tonight, and on the other side to CK on a couple which I don't like. Still, going to let them play out. The match-ups tonight just seem like they could go anyway more than usual.

      GL all
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      • hockeytown11
        SBR MVP
        • 01-04-09
        • 1102

        #73
        I didnt win a single game yesterday,0-7

        I am at the point now where I am clueless, I click a team then unclick it,then I go the other way ,then I change my mind,if everyones honest you know exactly what I mean.
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        • maddogmadden86
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 11-08-08
          • 898

          #74
          sweet jumps! knightridah is coming back i have been waiting for that man
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          • hockeytown11
            SBR MVP
            • 01-04-09
            • 1102

            #75
            I had a little more than 35k between two books 11 days ago,I now have a little under 18,so I have actually lost 17k in 11 days not 15,I need some help today boys,I have had 1 winning day out of 11,I dont care if its a small winning day I need to break the spell
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            • hockeytown11
              SBR MVP
              • 01-04-09
              • 1102

              #76
              Last time I had a run this bad I had my son pick 3 nhl logos off the computer screen. He picked 3(he is only 4) I parlayed it for 400 and hit for 3600,lol
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              • joanapoker
                Restricted User
                • 12-09-08
                • 2275

                #77
                Dexter,

                I've read almost all your posts and you seem a good capper, solid work etc.....so I'm wondering why you go against the JM system going with the unpredictable Pacers?? Just because rockets are full of injuries? and as u said "no artest or tmac tonight for houston - the rockets are 7-14 ats this year vs teams with a losing record, while the pacers are 7-1 ats after a loss of 10 or more points" --- only for this reason???
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                • hockeytown11
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-04-09
                  • 1102

                  #78
                  the rockets without artest and tmac arent the rockets,I love the pacers(bet ur mortgage on Houston)
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                  • maddogmadden86
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 11-08-08
                    • 898

                    #79
                    who on the pacers will stop yao?
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                    • hockeytown11
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-04-09
                      • 1102

                      #80
                      is yao going to score 80? whos stopping granger?
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                      • hockeytown11
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-04-09
                        • 1102

                        #81
                        foster will get in there and give up 6 fouls
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                        • DevilDog
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 12-27-08
                          • 190

                          #82
                          Let me chime in here....I know that injuries are a filter with the Morrison System but you MUST give it some leeway on those filters. The Rockets seem to actually play BETTER without McGrady. As for Artest...hmmm.

                          The system is hitting about 80% on the first game! It is 100% on the second game. Never went to three. Those are really hard numbers to go against.

                          Now on to what I like. You JUST have to like the Cleveland 1st QTR.. They win 73% of them and GS wins about 35% of them. Enough said for me.

                          Even though this line seems really strange to me I like Cleveland -6.5 against GS. The Cavs can play D anytime they want.....the Warriors cannot. Cleveland if it chooses to can run up and down the floor all day long...and we know that is what GS is going to try and do. I think Cleveland wins by at least 10.
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                          • cocknocker
                            Restricted User
                            • 11-06-08
                            • 8001

                            #83
                            hockeytown11,

                            We all go through cold streaks. It's just a part of the wagering process. As the front man for the CK Mafia, I catch heat when I go through a cold streak, but I know that in the end the good will outweigh the bad. Because of the way that I wager, I can go 1-4 on a day and actually make a huge profit due to units wagered if say I make a big wager for 3 dimes and win that one and lose the other 4 with only 3 hundred on them and one of them is an outright +650 dog winner on which I had the moneyline fading myself. You just have to know money management really well to get through those valleys.

                            With the way that I do things, you would have had some sweet paydays fading yourself with another sportsbook on the other opposing team's moneyline, especially when the dog won outright and you had the favorite. I do it as a habit, so that I don't just voluntarily give away my vigorish. So sometimes I laugh at the criticism, when I now that one or two of my losses actually made me more money than I put up on my favorite play.

                            But enough about that. Time to discuss the important things. Now you have had a chance to see that what I go through by picking my games (the night before) without benefit of watching the line movement and picking up some insurance points here and there I am sure that you can see that it is a little more difficult than it looks. I can think of 3 games right off hand during our competition that I would have won instead of lost by simply applying my key point theory. However, since we were in a competition I played those games at -110 anyway knowing that it is something that I normally wouldn't have done. And I was honorable about it, and didn't alter my lines in secret. And from seeing the results during the competition, I saw that you lost a few for the same reason (getting on top of or below key numbers). You have no idea how glad I will be t get back to my normal style of wagering on Sunday evening, lol!

                            But what I like and cherish moreso than anything, is that we have a newfound person to add to our fellowship, and that your advice and contributions to the thread are valuable, and we could always use any constructive dialogue that you may have in the future going forward. It is also admirable that you conducted yourself as a complete gentleman, and you have earned my respect. I look forward in the future to working with you as a colleague, and an integral part of our brotherhood. We need all the help we can get in this thing of ours.
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                            • nonsense48
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-15-08
                              • 2927

                              #84
                              plays for this eve depending on the spread at 6:30pm est det-3' hou-p- atl-5' cle-6' laying off of the cbb for a few days and i'll post when i lock in. GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!
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                              • Rio DiNero
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-03-08
                                • 2010

                                #85
                                Originally posted by hockeytown11
                                I didnt win a single game yesterday,0-7

                                I am at the point now where I am clueless, I click a team then unclick it,then I go the other way ,then I change my mind,if everyones honest you know exactly what I mean.
                                Hockeytown, I know that feeling, as I have been in your shoes many times. The best thing to do when you feel like this is to take a week off, not even look at the board and come back next week refreshed and invigorated. Trust me, it is the best option, clear your mind. Even if you were handed winner's straight out of Grey's Almanac, you will have a tough time winning in your current mental state. CLEAR YOUR MIND! I post because I feel your pain! GL!
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                                • Dexter
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 12-24-08
                                  • 25829

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by joanapoker
                                  Dexter,

                                  I've read almost all your posts and you seem a good capper, solid work etc.....so I'm wondering why you go against the JM system going with the unpredictable Pacers?? Just because rockets are full of injuries? and as u said "no artest or tmac tonight for houston - the rockets are 7-14 ats this year vs teams with a losing record, while the pacers are 7-1 ats after a loss of 10 or more points" --- only for this reason???
                                  the chase system for me is always locked and loaded - my standard (a)play for that is already in. so i will have both sides tonight with a larger wager on the rockets - when i cap the card each night, i like to do so before looking at ck's plays or even worry about what the chase system will have going. its just a normal size wager for me on the pacers. tmac being out doesnt bother me for the rockets, but artest does. he means more to that team right now, then tmac does. so yeah, i have a hedge/middle going in that game tonight. if the pacers win by 1, i will be happy.
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                                  • joanapoker
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 12-09-08
                                    • 2275

                                    #87
                                    Adding CLE -3.5 1st Half

                                    Update of Friday plays:
                                    HOU-1 (it's now at pk)
                                    HOU/IND OVER 211 (it's now 209.....this one scares me a little)
                                    CLE-3.5 1st Half
                                    MEM/NYK OVER 202
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                                    • Dfjay9
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-04-08
                                      • 1576

                                      #88
                                      Need thoughts on Cleveland and Nets getting 12?
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                                      • hockeytown11
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-04-09
                                        • 1102

                                        #89
                                        I want 3 teams,3 pays for tonight,the consensus on the board are the 3 i am playing stright for 1500 and 500 on a parlay,if i lose tonight,im taking a week off.
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                                        • cocknocker
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 11-06-08
                                          • 8001

                                          #90
                                          That's good stuff, DevilDog,

                                          Kind of hard to ignore the Cavs 1st quarter. They have been money at getting off to good starts this year.

                                          The Warriors have Montae Ellis coming back and starting tonight, so he's sure to have butterflies in his belly for th first 6 minutes for sure. Big difference between playing against your homies and playing against another team. But with Captain Jack, Biedrins, Maggette, Crawford and Ellis on board along with the development of Morrow, Watson, Azubuike, and Bellini, the Warriors are gonna be a good team to wager on after the All-Star game, with all of that depth and a good coach. The time on the floor has developed the bench, and they should get continuous good production when the starters go out. I think that i will watch them for a few games or so until Montae has jelled with theteam a bit, and then you will start to see me on them whether i am taking the over or taking their side. I have to have my finger on the pulse of the Warriors right now, because once they start winning they will start getting ignorant spreads like they were last year. Remember Montae is the reason that Don Nelson felt that Baron Davis was expendable. For his part, Baron is tanking it in Los Angeles faking injuries, and battling with Coach Dunleavey Sr. The addition of Ellis is a wonderful thing for the Warriors to finish strong on the 2nd half of the season.
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                                          • cocknocker
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 11-06-08
                                            • 8001

                                            #91
                                            hockeytown11,

                                            Don't parlay them. Play the 3 of them straight! Parlays are like throwing money at the bookie, which he will almost assuredly catch. The odds of hitting a three way are not too good. Go 50/50 on each selection, and if you have to do a parlay make it for 5 teams and only put $25.00 or so on it. You'll feel better about yourself only losing a quarter on a parlay than $500.00
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                                            • OC
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 01-05-09
                                              • 136

                                              #92
                                              Don't post much and I'm sure everyone who wants good picks and analysis appreciates that.

                                              hockeytown11:

                                              I feel for ya bro. Short of a bailout on the Cards and the over on Sunday, I would have lost 9 straight days. Still ended up down last week but could have been much worse. That being said, I am down 7 dimes this week and the only thing I can pick right now is the lint from my pockets. I'm now through my bankroll and into personal money and that is not a good thing. Hang in there. Going to follow for a night and hopefully break the chain. I would say that it can't get much worse but ....

                                              ck:

                                              Thx for the insights. Wish I would have listened.

                                              Dex:

                                              Just curious, why don't you have your own threads? Love your comments and views and am interested to see your posted totals if you don't mind. Always looking for somoeone to get some good insight from.


                                              All for now. BOL to everyone tonight.
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                                              • Rio DiNero
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-03-08
                                                • 2010

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by jaymac82980
                                                thanks ck, I like that houston pick, it worries me that indy won last time they played, but if tmac is out houston plays better, and they have been on a nice little streak.

                                                I also like the new york over.

                                                I'll be tailing those straight out the gates to make back my lost money from tonights wizards debaucle. Im still up 500 for the week, but I would rather go down in flames than waste my time driving to meet the man for a measly 500.

                                                Any suggestions on wagering amounts? I'm thinking 250 on houston, and 250 on knicks over, then take it from there - if those cover maybe a little run for the late games. More specifically cleveland and clippers.
                                                JAYMAC, I have read in past post you play with a local, also I have noticed the last couple days he had some big line differences in a few games you posted(LAL1/22,SA1/20,andBos1/19) all these games were rocking chair winners! I think your local may be smarter than you think, as he may be shading lines towards a sharp player he has. Locals do this all the time. Let's see if I'm correct, if you would be so kind as to post the games where your local has shaded the lines it would be greatly appreciated! Thank You!
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                                                • RoagBettor
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-20-09
                                                  • 8355

                                                  #94
                                                  So are there 3 "consensus" picks for tonight?
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                                                  • africanroller
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 11-30-08
                                                    • 936

                                                    #95
                                                    Wow I have to completely agree with Dex about this thread.
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                                                    • UndersSuck
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 12-16-08
                                                      • 86

                                                      #96
                                                      Hockeytown and others....

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                                                      Thanks for all the help, CK and the mafia. Keep up the good work. Have a great weekend
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                                                      • hockeytown11
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-04-09
                                                        • 1102

                                                        #97
                                                        roller you seem like a very bitter dude,you need to lighten up a bit,IMO,is anyone forcing you to read the posts or to come here? You come here everyday and complain,if some dude is giving ck crap its cks choice to respond or not to just as its your choice to come on here or not,how is reading your posts pissing and moaning any different?
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                                                        • I wanna rock
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 12-30-08
                                                          • 3

                                                          #98
                                                          Hey new to the thread,just a little insight on tonights rockets pacers game,should be a good 1.

                                                          Houston
                                                          Rockets are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 vs. Eastern Conference.
                                                          Rockets are 2-5 ATS in their last 7 road games.
                                                          Rockets are 2-6 ATS in their last 8 games following a S.U. win.
                                                          Rockets are 1-4 ATS in their last 5 games vs. a team with a winning % below .400.
                                                          Rockets are 1-5 ATS in their last 6 games vs. a team with a losing S.U. record.
                                                          Rockets are 1-5 ATS in their last 6 games playing on 1 days rest.
                                                          Rockets are 0-4 ATS in their last 4 Friday games.
                                                          Rockets are 0-5 ATS in their last 5 games following a ATS win.


                                                          Pacers are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 games following a SU loss of more than 10 points.
                                                          Pacers are 6-1-1 ATS in their last 8 home games vs. a team with a winning road record.
                                                          Pacers are 5-1 ATS in their last 6 games vs. a team with a winning S.U. record.
                                                          Pacers are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games vs. a team with a winning % above .600.
                                                          Pacers are 8-2 ATS in their last 10 games following a ATS loss.
                                                          Pacers are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games overall.
                                                          Pacers are 13-6-1 ATS in their last 20 Friday games.
                                                          Pacers are 62-30-4 ATS in their last 96 games playing on 2 days rest.

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                                                          • hockeytown11
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-04-09
                                                            • 1102

                                                            #99
                                                            ck,
                                                            I know parlays are like throwing money away but I usually do 1 per night and a 500 hit is 3000 on 3 teamer,so I am taking 3 games all str8 and 3 team parlay,if i dont profit,i take a week off.
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                                                            • peeiempee
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-21-09
                                                              • 2750

                                                              #100
                                                              Not many plays for me tonight. Liked the Cavs -6 until I found out Ellis is back. Don't know how well the starting 5 will play together. Staying away from them. NY looked good until the Memphis coach got fired, could work either way. Philly covered the day after their HC got fired. Harris is out for the Nets so for those of you playing the Morrison, one rule is never bet if a best player is out, Carter is the best, but an arguement can also be made for Harris as the best.

                                                              Houston should be good to get revenge for the last lost to Pacers
                                                              My plays
                                                              - Houston pk
                                                              - Nets +12.5 (light)
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                                                              • hockeytown11
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-04-09
                                                                • 1102

                                                                #101
                                                                i am an emotional bettor,i like the 3 run homer even tho i know 5 singles are better
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                                                                • cocknocker
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 11-06-08
                                                                  • 8001

                                                                  #102
                                                                  roller,

                                                                  whatcha got tonight? And there's only one outsider who's stirring the pot on the board. That's the reason why i am handing im his hat. But the capping hasn't stopped on my behalf. I am still doing business as usual, answering questions, making observations, and offering advice when it's requested. Don't let one bad apple spoil your contributions. You're not getting away from us that easy, lol! If you think that this is something, wait until the 32 man tournament gets cranking. I think that this one is going to be a riot, because not only am I the linemaker, I will also be a firefighter of sorts. Already there have been a few line changes due to trash talk. Stick around for that one.

                                                                  I will be taking on the winner in the NBA playoffs. I love to wager on post season games and bowl games, etc. I do my finest work then. I only lost two bowl games and 2 NFL playoff picks, I only lost 3 MLB playoff wagers as well winning all of the rest. Some lucky person is gonna get the heat torch applied to their scrotum region in the NBA playoffs.
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                                                                  • hockeytown11
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                                    • 1102

                                                                    #103
                                                                    i just used a 200 free play on french soccer lolololololololol
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                                                                    • mixpicks
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 01-09-09
                                                                      • 280

                                                                      #104
                                                                      hornets do seem like the obvious pick to me and to about 70% of the public too, even at -2
                                                                      However, The Big question is WHY? Is did the line go to a PK. instead of the usual 2.5-3pts. Again according to SI the %%% say about 70% on NO. Which dos make sence, but the line move dosn't. Knowing, That $$$ Moves Lines, one has to think the bigger/industry $$$ is on MIN. right? Now, I Will Keep In Mind, This Year RLM smart$ whatever, hasn't done that well in the Pro's... but still something, to be aware of... BOL
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                                                                      • hockeytown11
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-04-09
                                                                        • 1102

                                                                        #105
                                                                        ck u on cards in sb? ml and points?
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