nba chase 12/13

[Stifler]

i still dont understand how you guys calculate a loss. couple days ago he lost a majority of his system picks so why doesnt that get counted?

cause im faking my record just to feel like a random hero on an internet website. This is a 4game chase system. PLEASE READ POST #1586 if u dont know what a chase system is.

You can either try to middle the play (like Stifler seems to do) or simply subtract the lesser bet from the larger bet (as to avoid paying extra juice). I go with the latter.

I know this could be a big discussion, but its an important fact here. Please tell me what amount ur going to bet if ur A bet today is a loser or on the other hand ur B bet today is a loser. Im pretty sure people playing like this going to make mistakes in the next series steps.

I can only advice anyone, just play both teams, no matter what. Ur just paying the juice on a losing series, its not worth the drama to do any maths here. I probably will proof that u guys are wrong by just substracting the small amount from the bigger amount. Mistakes will be made later in those series. Thats why i wanna see the upcoming betting stages.

[Grinder12000]

Here is an idea (which will not work but).

IF someone sees a redundant question maybe we could PM the answer??? With greater detail??

bkric flaire - I PMd you - ask away

I can only advice anyone, just play both teams, no matter what. Ur just paying the juice on a losing series, its not worth the drama to do any maths here. I probably will proof that u guys are off by just substracting the small amount from the bigger amount. Mistakes will be made later in those series. Thats why i wanna see the upcoming betting stages.

I agree 100% and I was one of the ones arguing about NOT playing either - mistakes can be made so easily entering bets - especially if you have 4 books . . .TRUST ME!! LOL .

[Asset]

The pistons bet is a B bet so it's a bigger bet than the wizards bet (A), so you won't break even. i'm sure we'll all be cheering for the B bet and we'll get the pistons fade bet next time.

Well said...

And it's an S4 baby, I <3 S4 bets LOL

[Asset]

Here is an idea (which will not work but).

IF someone sees a redundant question maybe we could PM the answer??? With greater detail??

bkric flaire - I PMd you - ask away

LMFAO!!!!!

[bossman71]

if i have a total bankroll (budget) of $100, how do you think i could manage my money?

-for example for I do each unit at $10 or $5?

just not sure the best way to manage it correctly so if I do lose on a D bet I dont lose mostly my whole budget, thanks

[bkric flaire]

[QUOTE=Grinder12000;17207252]Here is an idea (which will not work but).

IF someone sees a redundant question maybe we could PM the answer??? With greater detail??

bkric flaire - I PMd you - ask away


it wont let me reply with a pm until i get 20 post but i basically need a run down on how these systems work which works best and what to play
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[sbrhgary]

21.12.2012

S1

(A Bet) Atl fade: 76ers +2,5 1,10u
(A Bet) Det fade: Washington +6 1,10u

S4

(B Bet) Wash fade: Orlando -7,5 1,10u | Detroit - waiting on line movement


- Before the question comes up: Yes bet on both teams Detroit and Washington.


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all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1586

I'm just gonna follow and post thanks only from now on.

[cubfan2121]

Were looking to win the series. If the series of 4 games goes 3 losses and 1 win at the end, its a win.
If its still not clear, read the first couple of pages like everyone else and if that still doesnt make sense then save your money, dont make the bets and dont play the system
A little work and a little reading goes a very long way

i still dont understand how you guys calculate a loss. couple days ago he lost a majority of his system picks so why doesnt that get counted?

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[Nino7]

if i have a total bankroll (budget) of $100, how do you think i could manage my money?

-for example for I do each unit at $10 or $5?

just not sure the best way to manage it correctly so if I do lose on a D bet I dont lose mostly my whole budget, thanks

I would do each unit at $1

[Asset]

I'm sorry but this has nothing to do with this thread, but I have to say it...

I love reading all these replies and comments. It just cracks me up and keeps me happy. It's like a comedy show...wheres Wallco at? LMAO

Sorry people for this useless post, especially to Stif

[bkric flaire]

[QUOTE]

Here is an idea (which will not work but).

IF someone sees a redundant question maybe we could PM the answer??? With greater detail??

bkric flaire - I PMd you - ask away


it wont let me pm you grinder so [QUOTE

[brian123321]

i dont understand why you all give so much time and effort into responding to ignorant people coming into this thread and yelling stuff about stifler not counting losses etc. when they dont even read a single page that describes the system or says that its a chase system. Just let them holer and yell, cry and whine and shit their pants. The people who plan on following the system, like myself, will ask maybe one or two legitimate questions and read how the system works. Personally i would troll anyone who came in here yelling about stuff obviously showing that they have not taken the 10min it takes to read the posts describing the system. Thats just me though, i guess yall have a lot more patience than i do.

[Asset]

i dont understand why you all give so much time and effort into responding to ignorant people coming into this thread and yelling stuff about stifler not counting losses etc. when they dont even read a single page that describes the system or says that its a chase system. Just let them holer and yell, cry and whine and shit their pants. The people who plan on following the system, like myself, will ask maybe one or two legitimate questions and read how the system works. Personally i would troll anyone who came in here yelling about stuff obviously showing that they have not taken the 10min it takes to read the posts describing the system. Thats just me though, i guess yall have a lot more patience than i do.

I read for the laughter

[bkric flaire]

my question is how and what are you guys wagering today

[Grinder12000]

I have so much patience it's sickening.

HEY YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN.

Where was I.

bkric flaire - read through post #1586 (im saying this not in anger)

[alexknyc]

I'm sorry but this has nothing to do with this thread, but I have to say it...

I love reading all these replies and comments. It just cracks me up and keeps me happy. It's like a comedy show...wheres Wallco at? LMAO

Sorry people for this useless post, especially to Stif

You may have noticed this post is on p. 50. One reason we get so many dumb newbie questions is that no one wants to wade through 50 pages of bullshit like this to find out how to play this system.

Someone's posts (forgot who) have the post number to look at on them. If he feels like it, adding what page it's on might help cut down on newbie questions.

[Riceboi]

if i have a total bankroll (budget) of $100, how do you think i could manage my money?

-for example for I do each unit at $10 or $5?

just not sure the best way to manage it correctly so if I do lose on a D bet I dont lose mostly my whole budget, thanks

I would do around 1-2% of your bankroll per unit. 1% being ideal. but 2% is a little more risky but it could still workout for you.

[bkric flaire]

sent you a email grinder

[brian123321]

if you only have $100 dollars and you are not able to deposit/get more if you lose it then $10 dollars is way to much to be playing this system with. Had you jumped in during the wrong time you would have lost basically all of it on the one chase that lost on D

[Asset]

You may have noticed this post is on p. 50. One reason we get so many dumb newbie questions is that no one wants to wade through 50 pages of bullshit like this to find out how to play this system.

Someone's posts (forgot who) have the post number to look at on them. If he feels like it, adding what page it's on might help cut down on newbie questions.

It's called LAZINESS!!

If you haven't noticed, the questions were being asked way b4 we got to p.50. Don't you think it's common sense when entering a new thread you would first read the first couple of pages?

The real problem I think is that...

1) People are lazy to read period.
2) They read it, but still don't understand what they had read.

[gamewinninglv]

It's called LAZINESS!!

If you haven't noticed, the questions were being asked way b4 we got to p.50. Don't you think it's common sense when entering a new thread you would first read the first couple of pages?

The real problem I think is that...

1) People are lazy to read period.
2) They read it, but still don't understand what they had read.

Yes I agree Asset. If the issue is #2, then one should not place any bets, betting is not for you. If the issue is #1, then i strongly recommend to read and do the following.

IMPORTANT: If you are new to this thread or if you don't know what's going on. Please go topage 46 and readpost # 1586 for a quick understanding BEFORE posting any questions/comments that may already been covered in that post. Thank you for your cooperation and have a Great Day!!!

[Grinder12000]

Personally I would not put 1% of the bank on this when yo ustart out. Get a feel for it, you can always slowly raise your amounts as you go. Once you play a "D" game and go through that little fun hell and survive go up a little. Rome was not won in a day and there are a lot of games.

Until you understand completely what is going on be conservative and go with the flow.

ANYBODY have any questions send them my way - Mr. Patience


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[Stifler]

- Detroit line updated

21.12.2012

S1

(A Bet) Atl fade: 76ers +2,5 1,10u
(A Bet) Det fade: Washington +6 1,10u

S4

(B Bet) Wash fade: Orlando -7,5 1,10u | Detroit -6 2,31u


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all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1586

[Wallco99]

my question is how and what are you guys wagering today

if i have a total bankroll (budget) of $100, how do you think i could manage my money?

-for example for I do each unit at $10 or $5?

just not sure the best way to manage it correctly so if I do lose on a D bet I dont lose mostly my whole budget, thanks

i still dont understand how you guys calculate a loss. couple days ago he lost a majority of his system picks so why doesnt that get counted?

i have questions bro

Hey Stifler,

Please excuse my ignorance. But Detroit just lost three in a row, thus shouldn't S1 (A) bet be the next bet for Det (Detroit to lose that is, since S1 states to chase the 3 game losing streak)? How come instead you are going with S4 Wash fade, B Bet on 21.12.2012 which happens to be against Detroit. What made you decide to go with the S4 Wash fade and not the S1 Detroit losing streak?

Thank you so much.

What's the point of betting on both teams? You'll just break even not including the juice.

What a God Damn shame! All the time and effort spent by Grinder making post #1586, only to collect cob webs and NEVER be used. The man has other things he could have been doing, like tunneling through the snow to the beer store. In every third post or so for the past week, the following message appears:

IMPORTANT: If you are new to this thread or if you don't know what's going on. Please go topage 46 and readpost # 1586 for a quick understanding BEFORE posting any questions/comments that may already been covered in that post. Thank you for your cooperation and have a Great Day!!!

Are people really that stupid or that lazy to NEVER see it. The image is burned in my brain, how can you miss it? It's LARGE BOLD font with Red and Green letters. I hope you stockpiled your alcohol Grinder, it's going to be a long season leading the blind to the bank.

[gamewinninglv]

if i have a total bankroll (budget) of $100, how do you think i could manage my money?

-for example for I do each unit at $10 or $5?

just not sure the best way to manage it correctly so if I do lose on a D bet I dont lose mostly my whole budget, thanks

50 units to 100 units is recommended for this chase system. If you are just starting out, bet $1.00 per unit, that way you have 100 units to bet with. That allows you more units in case of mistakes made getting used to this system (Trust me you will make mistakes if this is brand new to you).

If you are an experienced bettor, then you can do $2.00 per bet or 50 units. This allows you to maximize return per bet without losing all.

Another thing you can do once you are more experienced on the system is betting different units for different chases. For example betting 1 unit on S1 and S2 and bet 2 units on S3 and S4 (just an example).

If you have any further questions, please free to email Mr. Patience at Grinder12000@yahoo.com for more detail. *No purchase necessary, extra fees may apply.



IMPORTANT: If you are new to this thread or if you don't know what's going on. Please go to page 46 and read post # 1586 for a quick understanding BEFORE posting any questions/comments that may already been covered in that post. Thank you for your cooperation and have a Great Day!!!

[overcome]

cause im faking my record just to feel like a random hero on an internet website. This is a 4game chase system. PLEASE READ POST #1586 if u dont know what a chase system is.



I know this could be a big discussion, but its an important fact here. Please tell me what amount ur going to bet if ur A bet today is a loser or on the other hand ur B bet today is a loser. Im pretty sure people playing like this going to make mistakes in the next series steps.

I can only advice anyone, just play both teams, no matter what. Ur just paying the juice on a losing series, its not worth the drama to do any maths here. I probably will proof that u guys are wrong by just substracting the small amount from the bigger amount. Mistakes will be made later in those series. Thats why i wanna see the upcoming betting stages.

yo bro, i know its frustrating answering these questions, so thanks. i read post 1586, the other one on page 23 and the first page. just didnt understand it. but thanks for the tips.

[Grinder12000]

like tunneling through the snow to the beer store.

I'm a brewer (200 gallons last year) so no trips to the beer store unless it's something special. :-)

SORRY - OFF TOPIC!! :-) I'm going to get yelled at now I bet!

[Riceboi]

I'm a brewer (200 gallons last year) so no trips to the beer store unless it's something special. :-)

that explains a lot LOL

Let me get a nice Belgian white.

[bossman71]

50 units to 100 units is recommended for this chase system. If you are just starting out, bet $1.00 per unit, that way you have 100 units to bet with. That allows you more units in case of mistakes made getting used to this system (Trust me you will make mistakes if this is brand new to you).

If you are an experienced bettor, then you can do $2.00 per bet or 50 units. This allows you to maximize return per bet without losing all.

Another thing you can do once you are more experienced on the system is betting different units for different chases. For example betting 1 unit on S1 and S2 and bet 2 units on S3 and S4 (just an example).

If you have any further questions, please free to email Mr. Patience at Grinder12000@yahoo.com for more detail. *No purchase necessary, extra fees may apply.



IMPORTANT: If you are new to this thread or if you don't know what's going on. Please go to page 46 and read post # 1586 for a quick understanding BEFORE posting any questions/comments that may already been covered in that post. Thank you for your cooperation and have a Great Day!!!

thanks alot man, this really helped... I like the $1 per unit to get started just to get a feel for it, also say i to bet $10 per unit. say if we somehow do lose D bet, I would be losing about $185 dollars is that correct?

[CrazyCarl]

I know this could be a big discussion, but its an important fact here. Please tell me what amount ur going to bet if ur A bet today is a loser or on the other hand ur B bet today is a loser. Im pretty sure people playing like this going to make mistakes in the next series steps.

The normal amount that I would be betting on a B or C game, respectively.

[gamewinninglv]

thanks alot man, this really helped... I like the $1 per unit to get started just to get a feel for it, also say i to bet $10 per unit. say if we somehow do lose D bet, I would be losing about $185 dollars is that correct?

You're welcome.

Yes you are correct. Assuming you are getting -110 odds for all ABCD bets, with $10.00 per unit, the total amount lost for that series of chase is approximately $185.00 if D bet loses.

This thread is about getting organized and running a system, it has nothing to do with capping, which is what most people are familiar with about sports betting.


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[J.M. Disciple]

Just went over the numbers in post #1586 (pg 46) As a 3 game chase has come up in here multiple times. So i was debating a 2u-4u-8u chase.

B) 344w - 256 L
C) 166w - 90 L
D) 67w - 23 L

These are the back tested numbers. As you can tell each tier the win percentage grows higher. Skipping all A bets and betting to win 2 units on B, 4units on C, and 8units on D with rough math.. you would profit +832 units where as the 4 game chase over the back tested years profited 850 units, just slightly more. This would help take out some of the games when they overlap like today with Det and wash.

Also could still profit with 1 unit starting on B if you do not want to take on a whole lot of risk. a 3 game chase at -110 is roughly 8 units.

Good LUCk

[BuckeyeKaptn]

NEWBIES...Do this first:

all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1586

IMPORTANT: If you are new to this thread or if you don't know what's going on. Please go topage 46 and readpost # 1586 for a quick understanding BEFORE posting any questions/comments that may already been covered in that post. Thank you for your cooperation and have a Great Day!!!
It's baby steps. I followed Stifs plays, playing at a low level, watched, read, and learned. I probably still play at a lower level, but starting out at $2 A bets, I'm up $66 since about Thanksgiving. Take care of your bankroll.

[Stifler]

The normal amount that I would be betting on a B or C game, respectively.

ur not going to win 2 units overall on those 2 series.

i assume ur playing 1.21 units on detroit today to win 1.1 units (if ur playing -110 lines).

if i did it right u should go on playing like this: (only for the fact ur playing -110 lines)

variant 1: Detroit is going to cover today

- it will move to S1 Det fade (B bet)
- on ur B bet u have to play 2.2 units to win 2 units

variant 2: Washington is going to cover today

- it will move to S4 Wash fade (C bet)
- on ur C bet u have to play 4.74 units to win 4.31 units

Hopefully i did no mistake in those numbers, but i think they are legit. As u can see numbers completely changed. Another crossover game could also change the bet structure again. I always told to play both sides. Good thing is ur going to win even more playing like that, but that wasnt the point behind those thinkings, all u wanted to do is reduce the juice in case its going to be a losing series. The first time i saw this getting posted here i was skeptical, cause i knew this would change the bet structure.

[sbrhgary]

Washington/Detriot game:
S4 B bet wins tonight, the S1 A bet will become a B bet tomorrow.
S1 A bet wins tonight, the S4 B bet will become a C bet tomorrow.

S4 winning tonight would be best.