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  • hedgejob
    SBR MVP
    • 12-21-09
    • 2561

    #36
    5 over, 1 under.

    Over and dog spreads are ruling.
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    • Puda
      SBR MVP
      • 03-26-10
      • 1798

      #37
      Port -5.5
      Under 182.5 (Its going to be damp and cold)

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      • Coopertrooper
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 02-20-12
        • 925

        #38
        Not much time for any big write ups thanks to Easter activities.

        Play #10: collingwood 20-29, $8.50 X1

        I think collingwood will be too good here without it being a complete thrashing, I see great value in this.

        Play #11: collingwood kangaroos over 192.5, $1.88 X 2

        Collingwood are not strong down back at the moment, and the Roos were a high scoring team last year, should be high scoring at etihad.
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        • Coopertrooper
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 02-20-12
          • 925

          #39
          Miss the collingwood margin by 4 points, and missed the over by 3. Gutted. What a shocking weekend, can't take a trick
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          • hedgejob
            SBR MVP
            • 12-21-09
            • 2561

            #40
            6 over, 2 under.
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            • Coopertrooper
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 02-20-12
              • 925

              #41
              Play #12: Geelong/hawthorn under 196.5, $1.88 X 2

              Don't want to be put off by the shocking weekend thus far, as this is still a 2 unit play in my eyes. The hawks are desperate to break the kennet curse, and will be sure to stop the cats from scoring. They are dangerous up forward, and are a chance to blow this game out, but I feel the game is so open that the cats could win it. A fairly cool day at the 'G should give this a big chance, hopefully I'll save some face. Don't want my stuff to just be fade material all year, hoping i'm not off the mark and can nail this one!
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              • Coopertrooper
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 02-20-12
                • 925

                #42
                Sorry for the late wrap-up, Easter kept me busy.

                Round 1: 3-9, -6.88 units

                Was hurt badly on the Carlton plays, and narrow misses on the Collingwood plays, with one at big odds. On another week they hit, and it ends up a week well in the positive, but that is the way it goes. A tough start with more upsets in a round than we've ever seen (not sure on what the old number would have been, but only 2 winners were favourites throughout all of betting this week, with 7 not). Hopefully this poor start can be undone over the next couple of weeks!
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                • Coopertrooper
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 02-20-12
                  • 925

                  #43
                  Time to start setting the sights on round 2, with some good games coming up. I've got an early play for Friday night:

                  Play #1: St Kilda +18.5, $1.92 X 1

                  Richmond head into this game as heavy favourites after playing some very good patches of footy against the blues. I expect most will be playing the tigers here, but I felt they were exposed for fitness last week. St Kilda were completely off their game against the suns, and hence there will be little support for them, but I think they'll get back to playing some good football after the wake up call from last week. The tigers put a fair bit of effort into round 1, so I'm not sure how much they will have left this week.
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                  • brettels
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-04-10
                    • 3376

                    #44
                    The tigs have had a longer break, it's a saints home game but its at the mcg! Something to do with compensating Richmond members because of the cairns contract. So there will still be a much bigger Richmond crowd.

                    Can't see us dropping this one.
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                    • Coopertrooper
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 02-20-12
                      • 925

                      #45
                      Originally posted by brettels
                      The tigs have had a longer break, it's a saints home game but its at the mcg! Something to do with compensating Richmond members because of the cairns contract. So there will still be a much bigger Richmond crowd.

                      Can't see us dropping this one.
                      The longer break has turned out to be more of a curse in recent years. I did an analysis of it on another site a while back, and the number of upsets when a team had an extra 2 days break was astounding, certainly not what I expected to see when doing the numbers. I'll look and see if I can find it somewhere, but I lost my own copy of it.


                      Play #2: St Kilda 20-39, $9.00 X 0.5

                      A small play on the saints to kick away at the end. The tigers showed signs of fatigue last week in the last quarter, so I wouldn't be surprised to see it again. This is too much of a value play to pass on.
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                      • therealdealau
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-12-10
                        • 3227

                        #46
                        Love the Saints play gl
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                        • Puda
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-26-10
                          • 1798

                          #47
                          u194.5
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                          gl
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                          • hedgejob
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-21-09
                            • 2561

                            #48
                            6 over, 4 under

                            Edit: Last 3 under
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                            • brettels
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-04-10
                              • 3376

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Coopertrooper
                              The longer break has turned out to be more of a curse in recent years. I did an analysis of it on another site a while back, and the number of upsets when a team had an extra 2 days break was astounding, certainly not what I expected to see when doing the numbers. I'll look and see if I can find it somewhere, but I lost my own copy of it.


                              Play #2: St Kilda 20-39, $9.00 X 0.5

                              A small play on the saints to kick away at the end. The tigers showed signs of fatigue last week in the last quarter, so I wouldn't be surprised to see it again. This is too much of a value play to pass on.
                              That theory just got raped up the arse
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                              • Puda
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-26-10
                                • 1798

                                #50
                                Originally posted by hedgejob
                                6 over, 4 under

                                Edit: Last 3 under
                                Under holds! !
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                                • hedgejob
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-21-09
                                  • 2561

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Puda
                                  Under holds! !
                                  Lowest total of the season set in WB vs Freo (172.5). That one might go over.
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                                  • Coopertrooper
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 02-20-12
                                    • 925

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by brettels

                                    That theory just got raped up the arse
                                    It isn't going to hold for every match, but it did cover the line here. The saints couldn't contain the better Riewoldt at all though, they don't seem to be capable of learning from their own mistakes.
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                                    • benrama
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-19-11
                                      • 1499

                                      #53
                                      Riewoldt is a cancer for the Saints; and they made a lot of amateur mistakes. Still got some quality players and I think they will be a $ earner this year that is consistently under valued
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                                      • Coopertrooper
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 02-20-12
                                        • 925

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by benrama
                                        Riewoldt is a cancer for the Saints; and they made a lot of amateur mistakes. Still got some quality players and I think they will be a $ earner this year that is consistently under valued
                                        The saints? Yes, I think if you pick your spots well with them they can bring home some good plays, particularly at the line. They like to make games fairly scrappy, so any team that gives them a 3 goal start has to cover that line.
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                                        • benrama
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-19-11
                                          • 1499

                                          #55
                                          Yes they are like the old Detroit Pistons, they play tough and dirty often in absence of talent to back it up. How slow and bumbling did they look against the Tigers? And yet they still covered
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                                          • Coopertrooper
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 02-20-12
                                            • 925

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by hedgejob
                                            6 over, 4 under

                                            Edit: Last 3 under
                                            Sorry I haven't replied to any of these yet, but good work keeping tabs on how they are going, will be handy for reflection for next season in particular.

                                            Originally posted by benrama
                                            Yes they are like the old Detroit Pistons, they play tough and dirty often in absence of talent to back it up. How slow and bumbling did they look against the Tigers? And yet they still covered
                                            Some of the turnovers were shocking. The tigers really should have won by more, I still am a little unsure of how well they run out games, but tigers fans will be very happy to be winning close one's. Grinding out wins (esoecially compared to last years close losses) is the difference between playing finals footy or going on a September holiday.

                                            A few more weeks will tell us a lot more about both sides.
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                                            • Coopertrooper
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 02-20-12
                                              • 925

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Coopertrooper
                                              Time to start setting the sights on round 2, with some good games coming up. I've got an early play for Friday night:

                                              Play #1: St Kilda +18.5, $1.92 X 1 WIN
                                              Originally posted by Coopertrooper

                                              Play #2: St Kilda 20-39, $9.00 X 0.5 LOSS
                                              Round 2: 1-1 +0.42 units
                                              YTD: 4-10 -6.46 units
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                                              • Coopertrooper
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 02-20-12
                                                • 925

                                                #58
                                                Play #3 Bulldogs/Fremantle Over 174.5, $1.88 X 2

                                                Not sure why the total for this game is so low. The match is at Etihad, and the doggies aren't terrific down back, at least on paper. Fremantle should just about hit 3 figures in this match, so it looks to be a solid play here.

                                                Play #4 Brisbane Win, $2.05 X 1

                                                The lions will be seething after their performance against the dogs, and take on Adealide, who appear to have issues up forward. This game looks like being a grind, which should suit the lions. The crows just aren't doing enough to pose a major threat, and have to travel to the Gabba, where Leuenberger will also return for the lions. I'll also be looking for the total tomorrow, looking to play anything under 180 or above.

                                                Play #5 Parlay:
                                                + Sydney/Sydney, $1.25
                                                + Brisbane +30.5, $1.22
                                                + Melbourne +69.5, $1.23
                                                TOTAL: $1.86 X 2

                                                I really like the look of this parlay. Sydney to lead at half time and win is a steal at $1.25, while Brisbane and Melbourne shouldn't be blown out of the water. Happy to roll with 2 units here.

                                                Hopefully tomorrow will be a fruitful day
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                                                • Coopertrooper
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 02-20-12
                                                  • 925

                                                  #59
                                                  Play #6 Melbourne +38.5, $2.10 X 1

                                                  The last 3 games between the bombers and dees have been at the MCG, and all 3 have been won by Melbourne. The game before that was won by Essendon, but at Etihad. Essendon should be able to shake the monkey off the back in this game, but the dees match up well, and shouldn't be blown out of the water again, or will be facing a long season ahead, with less upside than any other club in the AFL. They can't afford that, so I'm expecting a better showing from them.
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                                                  • Coopertrooper
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 02-20-12
                                                    • 925

                                                    #60
                                                    Sweating on the dogs/freo over. Looked home when I left halfway through the 3rd, and then no goals for about 10-15 minutes, strange game!
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                                                    • Puda
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-26-10
                                                      • 1798

                                                      #61
                                                      Laid big on + 42.5 on the Gold Coast..

                                                      Geezzzz.. that was close... 1.5 win..




                                                      Over easy. Nice
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                                                      • Coopertrooper
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 02-20-12
                                                        • 925

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Puda
                                                        Laid big on + 42.5 on the Gold Coast..

                                                        Geezzzz.. that was close... 1.5 win..




                                                        Over easy. Nice
                                                        Gutsy play, you never know with the swans. They don't usually kill sides, but they are capable of playing 4 good quarters against a lower side, which can blow the margin out.

                                                        Originally posted by Coopertrooper
                                                        Play #3 Bulldogs/Fremantle Over 174.5, $1.88 X 2 WIN

                                                        Not sure why the total for this game is so low. The match is at Etihad, and the doggies aren't terrific down back, at least on paper. Fremantle should just about hit 3 figures in this match, so it looks to be a solid play here.

                                                        Play #4 Brisbane Win, $2.05 X 1 LOSS

                                                        The lions will be seething after their performance against the dogs, and take on Adealide, who appear to have issues up forward. This game looks like being a grind, which should suit the lions. The crows just aren't doing enough to pose a major threat, and have to travel to the Gabba, where Leuenberger will also return for the lions. I'll also be looking for the total tomorrow, looking to play anything under 180 or above.
                                                        Round 2: 2-2 +1.18 units (1 pending)
                                                        YTD: 5-10 -5.7 units

                                                        Disappointing that the lions were run over at the end, but the over still holds on after some slow scoring for the last third of the match. Parlay has 1 leg left to go to collect.
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                                                        • Puda
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-26-10
                                                          • 1798

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Coopertrooper
                                                          Gutsy play, you never know with the swans. They don't usually kill sides, but they are capable of playing 4 good quarters against a lower side, which can blow the margin out.
                                                          Was wet, though low scoring... got lucky.
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                                                          • hedgejob
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-21-09
                                                            • 2561

                                                            #64
                                                            10 over 5 under

                                                            (4 over, 1 under today)
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                                                            • Puda
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-26-10
                                                              • 1798

                                                              #65
                                                              Cats v North . U 198.5
                                                              Scumwood v Blues. O 182.5
                                                              Coast v Hawks. U 188.5

                                                              GL
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                                                              • Coopertrooper
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 02-20-12
                                                                • 925

                                                                #66
                                                                In a rush to head off to today's game, so I'll fix up my record later. Fair to say Melbourne are truly pathetic, how a club could show so little soul is pathetic. You have to wonder if their future lies with this administration and in this state...

                                                                Play #7: Collingwood 20-39, $4.50 X 2

                                                                I really like us today. The blues have some big outs in Hampson and Betts, while Seedsman and Shaw return for the pies. Carlton have matched up well on Collingwood in recent years, but it looks unlikely to continue today. Good odds for the pies to get past the line without it being a blow-out. 2 unit play, will be do or die for this week after last nights results.

                                                                GL on your plays today!
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                                                                • hedgejob
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-21-09
                                                                  • 2561

                                                                  #67
                                                                  13 over 5 under

                                                                  Early trend is clear.
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                                                                  • Coopertrooper
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 02-20-12
                                                                    • 925

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Coopertrooper

                                                                    Play #5 Parlay:
                                                                    + Sydney/Sydney, $1.25
                                                                    + Brisbane +30.5, $1.22
                                                                    + Melbourne +69.5, $1.23
                                                                    TOTAL: $1.86 X 2 LOSS
                                                                    Originally posted by Coopertrooper
                                                                    Play #6 Melbourne +38.5, $2.10 X 1 LOSS
                                                                    Originally posted by Coopertrooper
                                                                    Play #7: Collingwood 20-39, $4.50 X 2 LOSS
                                                                    Wow, just wow. The pies cover the line of 16.5, but fall short of 20. Second week in a row the pies have fallen 3 points short for one of my big plays, what a killer to go along with a tough round 1. This is just getting uglier at the moment.

                                                                    Round 2: 2-5 -3.82 units
                                                                    YTD: 5-13 -10.70 units


                                                                    Just have to keep plugging away, and wait for the tide to turn. A terrible start to the year, but not going to go out with any crazy big plays, just have to get some positive weeks under the belt.
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                                                                    • Coopertrooper
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 02-20-12
                                                                      • 925

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by hedgejob
                                                                      13 over 5 under

                                                                      Early trend is clear.
                                                                      Yep, the trend has continued on that is for sure. I hate how late most totals go up, I often don't have time to get on during the morning/day of a match, I don't get to play too many of them. But will be looking for the unders coming up, there will be some good value around when the totals adjust over the next week.
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                                                                      • hedgejob
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 12-21-09
                                                                        • 2561

                                                                        #70
                                                                        2011 round 3 and 4 trend was under.
                                                                        2012 trend was over until round 4.

                                                                        Looks like by round 4 fatigue sets in and trend goes under for few rounds.
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