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  • JBEX
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    • 01-02-12
    • 23394

    #1
    last race at nyra tracks,kentucky tracks and gulfstream
    tend to like the types of races they card last and want to limit it to the top tier tracks above.. can focus more with a limited menu

    must be posted before R6 (90% of time much earlier)

    2WP .. simple as possible

    post 5 ammended betting



    maximum 2 races /day..if I like all 3 i'm not scrutinizing enough

    if i know I'm not playing on a particular day either because I don't like anything or I'm just not looking i will give advance notice on occasion


    off turf no play except for gulfstream races switched to the tapeta .. if I notice this happens during the card I will try to warn but no guarantees

    off track horses have to be removed before R6..probably much earlier..this will be easier to do with less plays and late races



    will grade and tally..10 play / week max so shouldn't be a chore..probably a weekly tally


    will commit through belmont meet (7/10)


    feel free to post a pick if you like one of these races


    if I can think of something else will add



    fts = first time starter

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    Last edited by JBEX; 04-17-22, 10:15 PM.
  • JBEX
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    • 01-02-12
    • 23394

    #2
    aqueduct

    R9 #4 merger of equals (5-1) 4WP (explained post 5)


    fts extremely expensive for pedigree..chad brown on fire and ridiculous win % with manny franco..expect to be a lot lower

    there's a reasonable chance this is going to be taken off turf as mid afternoon rain is forecasted ..no play then




    gulfstream



    R8 #10 frosty secret (30-1) 2WP (explained post 5)

    fts homebred with a sneaky good pedigree including dam info..outside posts very good on the all weather surface





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    Last edited by JBEX; 04-14-22, 04:38 PM.
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    • JBEX
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      • 01-02-12
      • 23394

      #3
      added gulfstream 8..done for tomorrow
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      • JBEX
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        • 01-02-12
        • 23394

        #4
        forgot to write gulfstream for the 2nd pick..you probably figured that out by the update but just in case I'll give it a mention
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        • JBEX
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-02-12
          • 23394

          #5
          Originally posted by JBEX
          tend to like the types of races they card last and want to limit it to the top tier tracks above.. can focus more with a limited menu

          must be posted before R6 (90% of time much earlier)

          2WP .. simple as possible



          maximum 2 plays/day..if I like all 3 i'm not scrutinizing enough

          if i know I'm not playing on a particular day either because I don't like anything or I'm just not looking i will give advance notice on occasion


          off turf no play..if I notice this happens during the card I will try to warn but no guarantees

          off track horses have to be removed before R6..probably much earlier..this will be easier to do with less plays and late races



          will grade and tally..10 play / week max so shouldn't be a chore..probably a weekly tally


          will commit through belmont meet (7/10)


          feel free to post a pick if you like one of these races


          if I can think of something else will add



          fts = first time starter

          .


          really doesn't make sense to not reflect the odds in betting and not like I'm making so many plays that it's hard to tally

          by morning line

          <= 8-1 will be 4WP
          10-1 to 15-1 will be 3WP
          20-1 + will be 2 WP

          using a 2nd horse 2WP .. only if main play is 15-1 ml or less

          realize horses will often go off in different odds brackets from their ml but this is a good enough framework
          Last edited by JBEX; 04-14-22, 07:37 PM.
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          • JBEX
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            • 01-02-12
            • 23394

            #6
            ***********


            thursday 4/14

            aqu .. out @ 6-1 (8)
            gp .. out @ 39-1 (4)



            friday 4/15


            gp.. out @ 3-1 (8)
            kee.. out @ 11-1 (8)
            kee .. out @ 55-1 (4)

            saturday .. 4/16

            gp .. scratch
            gp .. 3rd @ 5-1(4) **


            ** wasn't thinking about gp off turf races being run on the tapeta vs on the dirt..going to split the difference with a $4 loss instead of $8..from now on turf races moved to the tapeta will count



            sunday..4/17


            gp ..2nd @ 3-1 $4.80 ($9.60/8)
            gp .. out @ 58-1 (4)


            8 plays
            9.60 /48 inv/ret
            22-1 avg odds
            [.20 roi]


            instead of number of races it'll be number of plays..much easier to do avg odds that way






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            Last edited by JBEX; 04-17-22, 10:16 PM.
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            • JBEX
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              • 01-02-12
              • 23394

              #7
              added another rule to money mgmt
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              • JBEX
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                • 01-02-12
                • 23394

                #8
                want to focus on this for the most part through at least the end of the belmont meet..if not doing it is pointless


                more than likely will do saratoga


                exceptions will be

                triple crown race days and the friday before

                opening day at belmont

                meadowlands and hong kong
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                • BOA12
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-19-12
                  • 20622

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JBEX
                  tend to like the types of races they card last and want to limit it to the top tier tracks above.. can focus more with a limited menu

                  must be posted before R6 (90% of time much earlier)

                  2WP .. simple as possible



                  maximum 2 plays/day..if I like all 3 i'm not scrutinizing enough

                  if i know I'm not playing on a particular day either because I don't like anything or I'm just not looking i will give advance notice on occasion


                  off turf no play..if I notice this happens during the card I will try to warn but no guarantees

                  off track horses have to be removed before R6..probably much earlier..this will be easier to do with less plays and late races



                  will grade and tally..10 play / week max so shouldn't be a chore..probably a weekly tally


                  will commit through belmont meet (7/10)


                  feel free to post a pick if you like one of these races


                  if I can think of something else will add



                  fts = first time starter

                  .
                  Originally posted by JBEX
                  really doesn't make sense to not reflect the odds in betting and not like I'm making so many plays that it's hard to tally

                  by morning line

                  <= 8-1 will be 4WP
                  10-1 to 15-1 will be 3WP
                  20-1 + will be 2 WP

                  using a 2nd horse 2WP .. only if main play is 15-1 ml or less

                  realize horses will often go off in different odds brackets from their ml but this is a good enough framework
                  Originally posted by JBEX
                  want to focus on this for the most part through at least the end of the belmont meet..if not doing it is pointless


                  more than likely will do saratoga


                  exceptions will be

                  triple crown race days and the friday before

                  opening day at belmont

                  meadowlands and hong kong
                  Going to review the official rules and join the group.
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                  • JBEX
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                    • 01-02-12
                    • 23394

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BOA12
                    Going to review the official rules and join the group.


                    sure b o a.. if you want you can just pick amongst those races (1 or 2 of the 3) and not tally or grade

                    just grade/not tally or both.. up to you


                    basically it's a choice of picking up to 2 of the last races amongst the 3 major east coast tracks (NY, KY and gulfstream) .. have to leave out at least one so there's some scrutinization (first I've used that word)

                    bet amounts are automatic based on ml.. always WP
                    added a 2nd horse option (must be 2WP) if your main is 15-1 ml or less

                    scheduled turf must be run on turf (JBEX)


                    off track horses must be removed before R6..since it's the last race there's time to take plays off..if not taken off they count.. if track goes sloppy (or taken off turf) after R6 for me play will not count.. if you want them to count for you (off tracks, turf always no play on dirt) that's fine




                    we are the group






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                    Last edited by JBEX; 04-15-22, 12:06 PM.
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                    • BOA12
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                      • 02-19-12
                      • 20622

                      #11
                      4:48 CST// KEE R10. #4 Napa Candy 9/2 $4WP. /// 4:32 CST// 6F Turf AQU R9. #2 Solid Tune 8-1 $4WP. BOL 2 US & ALL
                      Last edited by BOA12; 04-15-22, 06:54 AM. Reason: Apple a day REMOVED
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                      • JBEX
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                        • 01-02-12
                        • 23394

                        #12
                        going to start off with avg odds but you don't have to do that.. I'll probably tire of it (as always) before may
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                        • JBEX
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                          • 01-02-12
                          • 23394

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BOA12
                          4:48 CST// KEE R10. #4 Napa Candy 9/2 $4WP.

                          welcome aboard b o a think I covered about everything other than plays have to be in before R6 goes off.. mine will usually be much earlier
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                          • BOA12
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-19-12
                            • 20622

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JBEX
                            sure b o a.. if you want you can just pick amongst those races (1 or 2 of the 3) and not tally or grade

                            just grade/not tally or both.. up to you


                            basically it's a choice of picking up to 2 of the last races amongst the 3 major east coast tracks (NY, KY and gulfstream) .. have to leave out at least one so there's some scrutinization (first I've used that word)

                            bet amounts are automatic based on ml.. always WP
                            added a 2nd horse option (must be 2WP) if your main is 15-1 ml or less

                            scheduled turf must be run on turf

                            off track horses must be removed before R6..since it's the last race there's time to take plays off..if not taken off they count.. if track goes sloppy (or taken off turf) after R6 for me play will not count.. if you want them to count for you (off tracks, turf always no play on dirt) that's fine




                            we are the group






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                            We are a fun group,. I'll go all Oscar Madison's Room, slop, mess and Off turf , OK W/me. You can Unger up, Felix. Real men give bail out plays 7 daze.
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                            • JBEX
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                              • 01-02-12
                              • 23394

                              #15
                              gp

                              R9 #4 royal mahogany (7-2) 4WP






                              aqu


                              R9 #3 misspelled moon (8-1)


                              not scratched..just the one I'm eliminating






                              kee

                              R10 #1 oma the great (8-1) 4WP

                              #7 be tough (50-1) 2WP





                              experimenting with doing this..have to remove 1 and if I don't the latest post race will not count..in R10 @ kee there will have to be a secondary horse (2WP) if I play both..most likely that'll be #7
                              Last edited by JBEX; 04-15-22, 10:39 AM.
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                              • JBEX
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                                • 01-02-12
                                • 23394

                                #16
                                Originally posted by BOA12
                                We are a fun group,. I'll go all Oscar Madison's Room, slop, mess and Off turf , OK W/me. You can Unger up, Felix. Real men give bail out plays 7 daze.
                                good analogy .. if you want off the turf and sloppy races to count for you that's ok..felix will not have it
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                                • BOA12
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-19-12
                                  • 20622

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by JBEX
                                  gp

                                  R9 #4 royal mahogany (7-2)


                                  aqu


                                  R9 #3 misspelled moon (8-1)


                                  kee

                                  R10 #1 oma the great (8-1)

                                  #7 be tough (50-1)


                                  experimenting with doing this..have to remove 1 and if I don't the latest post race will not count..in R10 @ kee there will have to be a secondary horse (2WP) if I play both..most likely that'll be #7
                                  After reading this through out #8 apple a day a short lived post.
                                  Last edited by BOA12; 04-15-22, 07:09 AM.
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                                  • BOA12
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                                    • 02-19-12
                                    • 20622

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by JBEX
                                    good analogy .. if you want off the turf and sloppy races to count for you that's ok..felix will not have it
                                    You're one cat J, some say just as clean .
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                                    • JBEX
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                                      • 01-02-12
                                      • 23394

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BOA12
                                      After reading this though out #8 apple a day a short lived post.
                                      short lived post ?? I know it's kee
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                                      • BOA12
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-19-12
                                        • 20622

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by JBEX
                                        short lived post ?? I know it's kee
                                        Edited Post after Adding KEE R10 #8 apple a day, only one play per race. Lasted 60 seconds and erased.
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                                        • JBEX
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                                          • 01-02-12
                                          • 23394

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by BOA12
                                          You're one cat J, some say just as clean .



                                          gotcha on apple a day..you now have #4

                                          as always like this just post changes

                                          we can be on the same horses
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                                          • JBEX
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                                            • 01-02-12
                                            • 23394

                                            #22
                                            eliminated 1 play so have my 2 for the day


                                            post 15

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                                            • JBEX
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                                              • 01-02-12
                                              • 23394

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BOA12
                                              4:48 CST// KEE R10. #4 Napa Candy 9/2 $4WP. /// 4:32 CST// 6F Turf AQU R9. #2 Solid Tune 8-1 $4WP. BOL 2 US & ALL

                                              nice pick
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                                              • JBEX
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                                                • 01-02-12
                                                • 23394

                                                #24
                                                updated results post 6 ..tally next week
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                                                • BOA12
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                                                  • 02-19-12
                                                  • 20622

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by JBEX
                                                  nice pick
                                                  Bailed me out of my failed first 9 attempts. Why I love this game.
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                                                  • BOA12
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                                                    • 02-19-12
                                                    • 20622

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BOA12
                                                    4:48 CST// KEE R10. #4 Napa Candy 9/2 $4WP. /// 4:32 CST// 6F Turf AQU R9. #2 Solid Tune 8-1 $4WP. BOL 2 US & ALL
                                                    KEE R10 #4- $11.00- $5.40. AQU R9 #2 ran 4th. (2)32.80/16 (2.05) 5:13 CST AQU R10. Tapizearance #10 10-1 $3WP.// On Tap 5:20 CST KEE R11. Chocolate Bar 6-1 $4WP. BOL2ALL
                                                    Last edited by BOA12; 04-16-22, 02:28 PM.
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                                                    • JBEX
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                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                      • 23394

                                                      #27
                                                      nothing @ aqu or kee


                                                      gulfstream

                                                      R11 #8 seven bridges road (8-1) 4WP
                                                      R11 #3 travel guide (15-1) 2WP *

                                                      * it's 2 instead of 3 because it's the 2nd horse




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                                                      Last edited by JBEX; 04-16-22, 01:40 PM.
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                                                      • JBEX
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                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                        • 23394

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by BOA12
                                                        KEE R10 #4- $11.00- $5.40. AQU R9 #2 ran 4th. (2)32.80/16 (2.05) 5:13 CST AQU R10. Tapizearance #10 10-1 $4WP.// On Tap 5:20 CST KEE R11. Chocolate Bar 6-1 $4WP. BOL2ALL

                                                        10-1 to 15-1 is 3WP...gl today b o a
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                                                        • BOA12
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                                                          • 02-19-12
                                                          • 20622

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by JBEX
                                                          10-1 to 15-1 is 3WP...gl today b o a
                                                          Made adjustment..... U always have to watch me .
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                                                          • JBEX
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                                                            • 01-02-12
                                                            • 23394

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by BOA12
                                                            Made adjustment..... U always have to watch me .
                                                            no problem
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                                                            • JBEX
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                                                              • 01-02-12
                                                              • 23394

                                                              #31
                                                              updated post 6
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                                                              • JBEX
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                                                                • 01-02-12
                                                                • 23394

                                                                #32
                                                                gulfstream (all that's available today)


                                                                R10

                                                                #7 ken loves kitten (7-2) 4WP
                                                                #1 principe (20-1) 2WP




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                                                                • BOA12
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                                                                  • 02-19-12
                                                                  • 20622

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by BOA12
                                                                  KEE R10 #4- $11.00- $5.40. AQU R9 #2 ran 4th. (2)32.80/16 (2.05) 5:13 CST AQU R10. Tapizearance #10 10-1 $3WP.// On Tap 5:20 CST KEE R11. Chocolate Bar 6-1 $4WP. BOL2ALL
                                                                  Aqu R10 a disappearance by Tapearance. KEE R11 Choc Bar couldn't run that far. // (4)32.80/30 {1.09} 5:00 CST GP R10 #11 Food Bank Helper 8-1. 4WP. Happy Easter & BOL2ALL GP R10 #10 Moon At Midnight 20-1 2WP. // #11 $13.20 $5.60. #10 ran 10th.// (6)70.40/42 {1.67} 3:44 CST R8. #7 Isthmian 12-1 3WP. BOL2ALL
                                                                  Last edited by BOA12; 04-20-22, 01:23 PM. Reason: Monday Update
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                                                                  • BOA12
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                                                                    • 02-19-12
                                                                    • 20622

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Added GP R10
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                                                                    • JBEX
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                                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                                      • 23394

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                      ***********


                                                                      thursday 4/14

                                                                      aqu .. out @ 6-1 (8)
                                                                      gp .. out @ 39-1 (4)



                                                                      friday 4/15


                                                                      gp.. out @ 3-1 (8)
                                                                      kee.. out @ 11-1 (8)
                                                                      kee .. out @ 55-1 (4)

                                                                      saturday .. 4/16

                                                                      gp .. scratch
                                                                      gp .. 3rd @ 5-1(4) **


                                                                      ** wasn't thinking about gp off turf races being run on the tapeta vs on the dirt..going to split the difference with a $4 loss instead of $8..from now on turf races moved to the tapeta will count



                                                                      sunday..4/17


                                                                      gp ..2nd @ 3-1 $4.80 ($9.60/8)
                                                                      gp .. out @ 58-1 (4)


                                                                      8 plays
                                                                      22-1 avg odds
                                                                      180 cumulative odds
                                                                      (9.60 /48) ret/inv
                                                                      [.20 ] roi


                                                                      [1.00] roi = even


                                                                      instead of number of races it'll be number of plays..much easier to do avg odds that way






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                                                                      week 1




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                                                                      Last edited by JBEX; 04-17-22, 10:19 PM.
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