Rainman's NHL Thread 2012/2013 - $20 Unit System

rainman416 · 10-25-13, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Boxa

First of all, hello to everyone here. I found out about this forum few days ago and started following your picks rainman416, kinda think you're cool guy and also I found your picks interesting and fun. I'm from Europe btw and I hope you guys who can attend to these games will have great time and have fun, to bad I cant attend, just watching on tv, but one day I hope I'll get the chance. Followed your picks tonite also, wish you and everyone else here luck with tonite's plays and I hope we will get some cash :P Also, sorry for not to good English but I guess you all get the idea. Cant wait for games to start

Welcome to the thread, big + or big - tonight!! Lets hope for the former

USAF K9 · 10-25-13, 03:50 PM

Rainman how exactly does the round robin work is it worth the money ??? never really tried it

rainman416 · 10-25-13, 03:58 PM

The two pick parlay's, always say Round Robin on the Betslip for Bet365... not sure why cuz they play like a normal Parlay..

If you make 3 or more picks, you can play them as a "Round Robin" where for example in a situation where you have 3 plays (A, B, C), you would play them in this sequence AB-AC-BC so that if one of them loses you still get something back... and if all three win you're golden.. but slightly less golden than if you had just played the 3 of them straight up ABC and won.. so you give up some juice.. to get back some insurance... Don't play them very much..

USAF K9 · 10-25-13, 04:00 PM

fair enough I'm thinking ducks and sabres as dogs tonight what u think

rainman416 · 10-25-13, 04:04 PM

Love the Ducks obv. Sabres vs. FLA is a craps shoot imo. both struggling, this game will be about who can struggle less.. hard to call that either way, I'd take the +money if I had to make a call.. but, def a no play for me

ANA risky too with Andersen getting his first NHL start on the tail end of a back to back. but I could see it.. and no way I'm layin chalk on OTT. Big public play I'm guessing.. with OTT coming off of a 6-2 Win against DET.. and ANA coming off a loss to MTL 4-1 last night.. gonna fade that public tonight

USAF K9 · 10-25-13, 04:08 PM

was my exact same reason for taking ducks tonight ! but i have live betting updates on sportsinsights.com over 20 books and its almost 50/50 now was way ottawa earlier

kevin101 · 10-25-13, 04:19 PM

so is it safe to do a round robin: pens ml, avs ml, Toronto in 60? only going in 60 because of the high odds and if I loose that I get something back? something back be like col ml odds*pens ml odds*bet=win? Toronto odds go to 1(push)if they loose? never did the round robin thing either but always do want to try it though but would like some further info before trying.

rainman416 · 10-25-13, 04:57 PM

Nothing against Round Robin's I just don't really play em...

Not convinced about PIT at all here.. lots of goals both ways I think, but Zatkoff is on his second start and he got lit up for 6 in his first.. NYI are a decent squad.

Opted for the over instead.. but with Letang back your money is live for sure

Would rather take STL(ML)+AVS(ML)+Toronto IN 60

kevin101 · 10-25-13, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by rainman416

Nothing against Round Robin's I just don't really play em...

Not convinced about PIT at all here.. lots of goals both ways I think, but Zatkoff is on his second start and he got lit up for 6 in his first.. NYI are a decent squad.

Opted for the over instead.. but with Letang back your money is live for sure

Would rather take STL(ML)+AVS(ML)+Toronto IN 60

lol yea, but it does work like that? in this case be stml*avsml*Toronto 60 and if 1 loose if would be stml*avsml*bet=win? vise versa

rainman416 · 10-25-13, 05:12 PM

yep

kevin101 · 10-25-13, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by rainman416

yep

okay cool thanks. good luck on your picks tonight and enjoy your night. Be safe

rainman416 · 10-25-13, 07:25 PM

LIVE BET
Hedge bet during 1st INT ANA 2 - 0 OTT
ANA vs. OTT(ML) @+310 x.5u LOSE
Watch out for these Sens, hope this bet loses!

OTT Senators @ +310
$10.00 Single

10/25/2013 20:23:39

10.00

0.00

rainman416 · 10-25-13, 09:50 PM

LIVE BET (During 2nd Intermission CAR 1 - 3 COL)
Double Result (CAR-WIN or TIE) @+850 x.25u LOSE
Small hedge out here, nothing crazy. Hoping the AVS hold on

and win in Reg.

CAR Hurricanes or Draw @ +850
$5.00 Single

10/25/2013 22:48:22

5.00

0.00

rainman416 · 10-26-13, 12:47 AM

Tonight's Total = 4-6 +5.0 ($100.00)

FULL-SEASON TRACKING BY BET TYPE
Type of Bet Win/Loss Record Net Profit/Loss

Money Line 25-17 +13.91 UNITS ($278.25)

Puck Line 3-4 +1.95 UNITS ($39.00)

Totals 18-15-1 +1.22 UNITS ($24.50)

3-Way Side 9-10 +7.71 UNITS ($154.18)

Parlay 10-22 +3.17 UNITS ($63.45)

Live 10-13 +3.76 UNITS ($75.28)

Game Props 0-3 -4.76 UNITS ($80.50)

Pure Total: 56-48-1 +21.03 UNITS ($420.52)

GRAND TOTAL: 76-83-1 +27.96 UNITS ($559.25)

*All plays are between .2 and 5 units in size
**Pure total is total calculated without the inclusion of parlays or live bets

FULL-SEASON TRACKING BY BET AMOUNT

Bet Size Win/Loss Record

x5 Units 0-0-0

x4 Units 2-0-0

x3 Units 2-1-0

x2.5 Units 1-1-0

x2 Units 12-8-0

x1.5 Units 4-3-0

x1 Units 37-35-1

x.5 Units 10-24-0

Other Amount (.2u-3u) 8-11-0

rainman416 · 10-26-13, 12:50 AM

Without the Parlay's and the 2 small Hedge bets, this was a 4-1 night. Feels good. Brutal parlay structuring tonight. Working on fixing that moving forward

Goodnight.

Manel88 · 10-26-13, 08:21 AM

I dont understand one thing raiman...if you can explain please

Why sometime you bet the units you post and other times you bet to win those units?

For example, last night, your bet on Colorado was to win 2u but your bet on Anaheim (Reg) was of 3u and not to win 3u...do you understand my doubt?

rainman416 · 10-26-13, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by Manel88

I dont understand one thing raiman...if you can explain please

Why sometime you bet the units you post and other times you bet to win those units?

For example, last night, your bet on Colorado was to win 2u but your bet on Anaheim (Reg) was of 3u and not to win 3u...do you understand my doubt?

IF a team is a favourite, I lay the extra money down TO WIN the amount of units stated in the "TONIGHT'S PLAY's" section.

IF a team is an underdog (i.e. +110, +200 etc.) I bet the exact unit amount ($20.00) per unit on them TO WIN more than the stated unit amount.

For example last night, ANA to win in Regulation was listed at +200... I put 3 units on them... $60 TO WIN $120.. the bet returned $180 total. Whereas for COL, because they were -125 to win in regulation, I bet 2 units on them.. that meant betting $50 to win $40, the bet returned $90.

I hope this helps.

Manel88 · 10-26-13, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by rainman416

IF a team is a favourite, I lay the extra money down TO WIN the amount of units stated in the "TONIGHT'S PLAY's" section.

IF a team is an underdog (i.e. +110, +200 etc.) I bet the exact unit amount ($20.00) per unit on them TO WIN more than the stated unit amount.

For example last night, ANA to win in Regulation was listed at +200... I put 3 units on them... $60 TO WIN $120.. the bet returned $180 total. Whereas for COL, because they were -125 to win in regulation, I bet 2 units on them.. that meant betting $50 to win $40, the bet returned $90.

I hope this helps.

It did...thanks man, you seem to be really nice. Sorry for the question but as i am portuguese, not so used to the way of betting in the US, and also cause i saw other threads around here with different approachs towards this

Boxa · 10-26-13, 12:04 PM

Is tonite a day off or you're playing something?

rainman416 · 10-26-13, 01:25 PM

Workin. Gonna make plays around 5:30 or 6:00

no play for the afternoon game..

Boxa · 10-26-13, 01:36 PM

OK, thanks for the info, will check later on

rainman416 · 10-26-13, 04:54 PM

TODAY'S PLAYS
NYR vs. DET(In Reg.) @-120 x2u LOSE

PIT vs. TOR(In Reg.) @+200 x1u WIN

PHI(ML) vs. NYI @-110 x1u WIN

WAS vs. CGY OVER5.5 @-120 x2u WIN

PARLAY'S
BOS(ML) + STL(ML) + WAS(ML) @+319 x1u LOSE

BOS(ML) + DET(ML) + PHI(ML) + STL(ML) + WAS(ML) @+1100 x.25u LOSE

Bet Details	Date/Time	Stake	Return
BOS Bruins @ -235 STL Blues @ -135 WAS Capitals @ -145 3 Play Parlays, 1 bet * $20.00	10/26/2013 18:00:45	20.00	0.00
BOS Bruins @ -235 DET Red Wings @ -200 PHI Flyers @ -110 STL Blues @ -135 WAS Capitals @ -145 5 Play Parlays, 1 bet * $5.00	10/26/2013 18:00:06	5.00	0.00
Over 5.5 @ -120 $48.00 Single	10/26/2013 17:57:23	48.00	88.00
PHI Flyers @ -110 $22.00 Single	10/26/2013 17:52:58	22.00	42.00
TOR Maple Leafs @ +200 $20.00 Single	10/26/2013 17:52:58	20.00	60.00
DET Red Wings @ -120 $48.00 Single	10/26/2013 17:52:58	48.00	0.00
Total for this period		163.00	190.00

That is all..

Manel88 · 10-26-13, 05:28 PM

Can you give me your thoughts on Toronto?

rainman416 · 10-26-13, 05:31 PM

They play Pit well. Reimer has a really good record vs. PIT and the leafs are my teeeeeaaaammmm! +200 sounds good to me

Manel88 · 10-26-13, 05:49 PM

I see...well that is a good price...no doubt about it...Toronto on Saturday nights is a really tough place to play. But now Bozak is out for today and watching the lines i think Pitts is better especially on defense... i guess they should be pissed after last night defeat and outshooting the isles

Also like the over

GL man

rainman416 · 10-26-13, 05:51 PM

I kinda like Bozak out as that gives kadri a chance to prove himself. He's go the best hands on the team and will be stepping up his game tonight. As all the leafs typically do on Pittsburgh night.

GL with yer plays tonight

Boxa · 10-26-13, 05:58 PM

Followed, good luck! Which game you suggest to watch?

rainman416 · 10-26-13, 06:06 PM

Leafs vs penguins will be quite a show.

DET is the team to bet on tonight if I could only pick one... Can't see them losing a 3rd straight.. Or is it 4th? Eitherway. Just on my phone so can't check, but yea. Enjoy the show tonight!

Boxa · 10-26-13, 08:45 PM

WOW! Fucken joke of a Boston... rly... I was ok with DET loss, but wtf is this ish man... destroyed our parlays... At least your Toronto is going to win and PHI did the job, should i go single on the Caps?

rainman416 · 10-26-13, 08:59 PM

What a game for the Leafs! Can't say I'm surprised at all, they have been playing well against PIT for a while now, Reimer being a huge part of that.

On a more sour note. DET came out flat again in the 3rd and gave up a big goal early on. Then lost on a bad giveaway and worse save. That was a very unexpected result tbh. I feel like DET are the Yankees' of hockey. Always big Faves.. and lately.. not getting it done...

My buddy put together a spread sheet that crunches numbers for his FanDuel.com fantasy tickets, and I'm using the read outs from that spread sheet to make the following picks.. They are also the leans I had going into this game, but who wouldn't have these leans? They're about as square as they come.

BOL

ADDING
WAS(ML) vs. CGY @-140 x1u LOSE

PARLAY
WAS(ML) + WAS/CGY OVER5.5 @+214 x.5u LOSE

Bet Details	Date/Time	Stake	Return
Over 5.5 @ -120 WAS Capitals @ -140 Round Robin/2 Play Parlays, 1 bet * $10.00	10/26/2013 21:53:32	10.00	0.00
WAS Capitals @ -140 $28.00 Single	10/26/2013 21:53:32	28.00	0.00

**Added 1 unit to the WAS/CGY OVER5.5 BET for a total of 2u.

rainman416 · 10-26-13, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by Boxa

WOW! Fucken joke of a Boston... rly... I was ok with DET loss, but wtf is this ish man... destroyed our parlays... At least your Toronto is going to win and PHI did the job, should i go single on the Caps?

Yea I didn't see that BOS collapse other than on my phone app.. but it must have been gross.. NJ winning in an OVER.. That must have buried a few good men.

I'm on WAS tonight, even though I think we'd have been fine just waiting on the OVER to make the night +.. but I like this game.. it's saturday, and I think/hope it will be another big score fest.. Square as hell but whats done is done.

BOL

kevin101 · 10-26-13, 11:01 PM

Hey rainman what book do you use? I use 5dimes and betonline and neaither of them will let me parlay a team+a total. Like ur Washington +over. I'm on caps too, need them to win to finish my 3 team parlay. -.- need a big 3rd by the caps

rainman416 · 10-26-13, 11:29 PM

Tonight's Total = 3-5 -.55 ($11.00)

kevin101 · 10-26-13, 11:34 PM

Fhking bs. Daily / face off or w.e confirmed Holtby in net yet the caps play back up....

rainman416 · 10-27-13, 01:08 AM

Holtby did start haha, he got pulled in the first! Shudda seen that was an obvious CGY play with the juice they were getting at home. Leafs won big. Not a bad night.