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  • BuddyBear
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-10-05
    • 7233

    #1
    Most important things in sports gambling
    There is a lot of theory out there on sports gambling and how to be successful at it...and basically everything I have ever learned the one key condition at being successful begins with Money Management skills. Line Shopping is a close second but if you want to be successful you better avoid things like varying your bet size, chasing, placing future wagers on teams that are 100-1 and things like that.

    I could be wrong...but I am just curious as to what everyone else thinks the most important thing in being a sports gambler is. Thanks.
  • SBR_John
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-12-05
    • 16471

    #2
    Avoid road favorites that are coming off double digit straight up wins.
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      1. Of course do not double up
      2. Do not bet parlays
      3. look for best number
      4. Look for lower juice
      5. DOnt bet too many awy team favs
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      • hoppa_long
        SBR Hustler
        • 08-16-05
        • 79

        #4
        Never get over confident after a winning streak.....
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        • why
          SBR Sharp
          • 08-10-05
          • 447

          #5
          Patience
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          • SBR_John
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-12-05
            • 16471

            #6
            Always check JJ Golds picks
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            • Senator7
              SBR MVP
              • 08-20-05
              • 1559

              #7
              1. Money Management
              2. Money Management
              3. Money Management

              This can't be stressed enough. If you manage your money improperly, you could go 5-2 one week and still lose money. The guys that do this for a living or the guys in it for the long haul are experts at money management. That's why they can do it for a living and that's why they can stay in it and be successful over the long haul.

              Senator 7
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              • Mudcat
                Restricted User
                • 07-21-05
                • 9287

                #8
                For me, the secret to gambling is don't gamble.

                I'm not saying don't place bets. I mean I only place bets that are proven to be profitable long-term.

                No guesses, no hunches, no unproven theories, no impatience, no getting caught up by some posting forum guru or other kind of hype.

                I just do what I know makes money. I don't gamble.
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                • bigboydan
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 55420

                  #9
                  all you need is good info
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                  • hoppa_long
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 08-16-05
                    • 79

                    #10
                    Some good advice

                    1. Know yourself as a handicapper, good and bad. All the planning in the
                    world can go up in smoke in one flash of desperation. Have well-defined
                    methods of selecting games and STICK TO THEM, while constantly developing
                    new methods. Document your records and performance, and then realize that
                    even the best past angles hold no guarantees for the future.


                    2. Earn money any way you can at things other than betting. Devote your
                    free time to betting and don't spend any money on anything else. Your
                    bankroll (and your time) must be sacred.


                    3. Do not relinquish other sources of income until you have enough money,
                    aside from your bankroll, to support yourself for a minimum of six months.


                    4. Don't be afraid to change plans if things are not going well, but
                    don't abandon your strategies or increase your wagers because of
                    short-term performance. Also, remember the Law of Perpetual Opportunity.
                    You don't have to play any day you don't feel up to it. There will always
                    be another day, another game.


                    5. Hang out with other bettors who are successful and attempt to learn
                    everything you can about their methods. Conversely, don't give your best
                    angles away even to your best friends. In this business, if you publish,
                    your angle will perish.


                    6. Finally, NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE VALUE OF ONE WINNER!
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      track all your bets

                      good record keeping

                      never use the due theory like me
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                      • Illusion
                        Restricted User
                        • 08-09-05
                        • 25166

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Senator7
                        1. Money Management
                        2. Money Management
                        3. Money Management
                        That can't be stressed enough, but sometimes it's easier said than done. If you can avoid chasing than this shouldn't be an issue.
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                        • FantasyBetsZone
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 08-26-05
                          • 9

                          #13
                          dont bet on parlays!! they eat your $$$$ PERIOD!
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                          • pags11
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 08-18-05
                            • 12264

                            #14
                            great thread here...agree that money management is number one, a lot of other good info. here...
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                            • square
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 08-11-05
                              • 165

                              #15
                              Real good stuff guy's !

                              Bottom Line.
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #16
                                Also back off if you are going bad. We all tend to bet more when we are down and bet less when we are winning.
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                                • why
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 447

                                  #17
                                  Its a grind, when I wrote patience, it is all inclusive(bankroll, picks,games,knowledge)
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #18
                                    Dont get loans to gamble
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                                    • pags11
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-18-05
                                      • 12264

                                      #19
                                      good points jjgold...taking a break or decreasing your units temporarily is never a bad thing...and scared money definitely never wins...great thread here...
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                                      • Andy77
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 07-01-08
                                        • 72

                                        #20
                                        Good post, actually many good posts in this thread. So I guess, I just want to bump it up
                                        From myself, I think if you just starting out it would be great to bet just on paper without real money involved and see how you did for long period of time.
                                        Originally posted by hoppa_long
                                        Some good advice

                                        1. Know yourself as a handicapper, good and bad. All the planning in the
                                        world can go up in smoke in one flash of desperation. Have well-defined
                                        methods of selecting games and STICK TO THEM, while constantly developing
                                        new methods. Document your records and performance, and then realize that
                                        even the best past angles hold no guarantees for the future.


                                        2. Earn money any way you can at things other than betting. Devote your
                                        free time to betting and don't spend any money on anything else. Your
                                        bankroll (and your time) must be sacred.


                                        3. Do not relinquish other sources of income until you have enough money,
                                        aside from your bankroll, to support yourself for a minimum of six months.


                                        4. Don't be afraid to change plans if things are not going well, but
                                        don't abandon your strategies or increase your wagers because of
                                        short-term performance. Also, remember the Law of Perpetual Opportunity.
                                        You don't have to play any day you don't feel up to it. There will always
                                        be another day, another game.


                                        5. Hang out with other bettors who are successful and attempt to learn
                                        everything you can about their methods. Conversely, don't give your best
                                        angles away even to your best friends. In this business, if you publish,
                                        your angle will perish.


                                        6. Finally, NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE VALUE OF ONE WINNER!
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                                        • SBR Lou
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 08-02-07
                                          • 37863

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Andy77
                                          Good post, actually many good posts in this thread. So I guess, I just want to bump it up
                                          From myself, I think if you just starting out it would be great to bet just on paper without real money involved and see how you did for long period of time.
                                          Welcome to SBR Andy...
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                                          • Andy77
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 07-01-08
                                            • 72

                                            #22
                                            Thank you Crazyl ! Nice avatar you have, it is for sure
                                            Originally posted by crazyl
                                            Welcome to SBR Andy...
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                                            • Krtica
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 05-26-08
                                              • 162

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              Dont get loans to gamble
                                              yeah... this is a good one...
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                                              • Bullajami
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 12-23-05
                                                • 472

                                                #24
                                                Good post to bump. Timeless wisdom here.
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                                                • TheLock
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 04-06-08
                                                  • 14427

                                                  #25
                                                  If it looks like a lock, it isn't.
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                                                  • MrX
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-10-06
                                                    • 1540

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Andy77
                                                    I think if you just starting out it would be great to bet just on paper without real money involved and see how you did for long period of time.
                                                    The amount of time required to get any significance this way is much longer than most people would want to spend betting on paper.

                                                    Proper back-testing, though more technically difficult, is a more practical way to go.
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                                                    • Dazzez
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 08-04-06
                                                      • 258

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                      if you want to be successful you better avoid things like varying your bet size.
                                                      I think someone might need to read more about the Kelly Criterion.
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                                                      • MrX
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-10-06
                                                        • 1540

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Dazzez
                                                        I think someone might need to read more about the Kelly Criterion.
                                                        Well, that post was made almost three years ago.

                                                        I'm sure BB would phrase that point a little more carefully now. Something along the lines of "Don't vary you're bet size to chase losses or because you 'have a feeling'."
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                                                        • Dazzez
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 08-04-06
                                                          • 258

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MrX
                                                          Well, that post was made almost three years ago.
                                                          Yes, you're right, I missed that.

                                                          But I think concurrent with extolling the virtues of a post such as this we should also be mindful of and vocal about its flaws.
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                                                          • Willie Bee
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-14-06
                                                            • 15726

                                                            #30
                                                            Can only think that what everyone has said so far is correct, at least they are guidelines/strategies that have worked for them. Maybe we should have a skull session among some small group to come up with SBR's '10 Commandments' -- maybe it ends up being 8 or 12 -- that are unanimous. For instance, JJ says don't play parlays but surely there are some who can make parlay plays without losing their asses. Buddy says to "avoid varying your bet size," something I personally agree with for the most part, yet it's not something that should be a no-no for everyone.

                                                            A few items in this thread that seem to be strong candidates for being hard rules for everyone seem to be managing your money/knowing your limit financially, finding the best lines, no chasing and understanding the ups and downs in short hauls.
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                                                            • pokernut9999
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 07-25-07
                                                              • 12757

                                                              #31
                                                              Agree with a lot of the posts , one thing I read a long time ago was to write down all your bets and keep records. As time goes by look and see patterns in winning bets and then the losing bets. You will be suprised by the trend that develops, everyone's will be different but for me my losses were parlays , teasers and road favorites.
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                                                              • Andy77
                                                                SBR Hustler
                                                                • 07-01-08
                                                                • 72

                                                                #32
                                                                Totally agree with you. Back-testing great way to go. Some times though, people use discretionary strategies, in those cases paper betting or playing in prediction league can show long term results. But like you said, it takes long time.

                                                                Originally posted by MrX
                                                                The amount of time required to get any significance this way is much longer than most people would want to spend betting on paper.

                                                                Proper back-testing, though more technically difficult, is a more practical way to go.
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                                                                • so-classy#23
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 06-16-08
                                                                  • 156

                                                                  #33
                                                                  consistent runs of good luck season after season after season..then maybe it becomes recognized as some skill with the luck
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                                                                  • Thremp
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-23-07
                                                                    • 2067

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                    Dont get loans to gamble
                                                                    Ha. I flaunted this one.
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                                                                    • warriorfan707
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 03-29-08
                                                                      • 13698

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Discipline.

                                                                      Straight betting.(most of the time)

                                                                      Knowledge.

                                                                      Experience.

                                                                      A bankroll.

                                                                      Get all these together, and you have a way to make money as long as you live.
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