The Real Truth About Roulette Systems!!

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  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #1
    The Real Truth About Roulette Systems!!
    Correction: 100% of all systems fail.

    If you think you have a system that is legal, I have investors that will say you're wrong to the tune of $1m.
  • HeeeHAWWWW
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-13-08
    • 5487

    #2
    Originally posted by Croupier1
    I have only told a selected few insiders and people I can trust 100% about my system because I obviously know how powerful it is and I want to continue winning money with it, the fact is that if loads of people know about then all my hard work developing the system would go down the drain which doesn't bear thinking about!!.
    So, naturally you post about it on one of the largest readership betting forums on the web.


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    • Dark Horse
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-14-05
      • 13764

      #3
      Wouldn't have anything to do with spam, would it?
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      • Justin7
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 07-31-06
        • 8577

        #4
        Croupier,

        This particular forum is restricted to legitimate handicapping and math topics. I hate to be a d*ck*, but Roulette is not beatable by a system. You can prove this mathematically. Unless you have some math to back up your claims, don't waste people's time in this forum. Feel free to post it in the general forum, or the promotions forum.
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        • Peep
          SBR MVP
          • 06-23-08
          • 2295

          #5
          Agree Justin.
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          • unit1884
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 06-11-08
            • 938

            #6
            Your wrong, Roulette is beatable.

            Martingale with an unlimited bankroll and no limit, there, you win.
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            • smitch124
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 05-19-08
              • 12566

              #7
              Originally posted by unit1884
              Your wrong, Roulette is beatable.

              Martingale with an unlimited bankroll and no limit, there, you win.
              Don't forget the fantasy Casino that will accept unlimited bets...
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              • Justin7
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-31-06
                • 8577

                #8
                Originally posted by unit1884
                Your wrong, Roulette is beatable.

                Martingale with an unlimited bankroll and no limit, there, you win.
                It's beatable if all numbers pay 40:1 also. But alas, neither your game nor mine exist, so it remains unbeatable.
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                • Dark Horse
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-14-05
                  • 13764

                  #9
                  It's beatable when the wheel is uneven (old days), or when you have a way to manipulate the wheel. I don't see how that is possible with modern technology, but you never know. In any case, the utmost secrecy would be the first tell.
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                  • unit1884
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 06-11-08
                    • 938

                    #10
                    Who would even want to TRY to beat a casino game, its not worth the time... Just own a casino, there problem solved, play roulette all day and you always win... lol
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                    • Boner_18
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-24-08
                      • 8301

                      #11
                      Every roulette wheel has a slight bias... Find it and you win, follow that wheel around the casino. Good luck determining that bias.
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                      • Ganchrow
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-28-05
                        • 5011

                        #12
                        Originally posted by unit1884
                        Your wrong, Roulette is beatable.

                        Martingale with an unlimited bankroll and no limit, there, you win.
                        Betting a Martingale strategy doesn't render roulette "beatlable" in any meaningful sense.

                        I explained this in detail in http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...tml#post300437.
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                        • Ganchrow
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-28-05
                          • 5011

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Boner_18
                          Every roulette wheel has a slight bias... Find it and you win, follow that wheel around the casino. Good luck determining that bias.
                          This doesn't quite follow logically.

                          Just because a wheel might have a slight bias doesn't imply that that bias is enough to overcome the house edge.

                          Look at it this way: If you were able to determine bias in the way I were to flip coins such that my flips came up 51% heads, doesn't mean that you be able to profit off this information betting at a line of -110.
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                          • reno cool
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-02-08
                            • 3567

                            #14
                            Although roulette won't be beaten by a strictly mathematical system, this is not to say that roulette can't be beaten or hasn't been beaten "legally".
                            Takes immense skill and favorable conditions (such as biased wheels), so you're probably better off trying to beat it illegally.
                            bird bird da bird's da word
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                            • curious
                              Restricted User
                              • 07-20-07
                              • 9093

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Justin7
                              Correction: 100% of all systems fail.

                              If you think you have a system that is legal, I have investors that will say you're wrong to the tune of $1m.
                              Do you consider advantage blackjack play (card counting, ace steering, hole card peeking, shuffle tracking) to be a "system" that is legal? Because if you do I will take that bet.
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                              • Justin7
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 07-31-06
                                • 8577

                                #16
                                Originally posted by curious
                                Do you consider advantage blackjack play (card counting, ace steering, hole card peeking, shuffle tracking) to be a "system" that is legal? Because if you do I will take that bet.
                                I'm only talking about Roulette. Of course you can beat Blackjack.
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                                • curious
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 07-20-07
                                  • 9093

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Justin7
                                  I'm only talking about Roulette. Of course you can beat Blackjack.
                                  Sorry, I didn't read the title of your thread. LOL
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                                  • St. Andrew
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-23-08
                                    • 2265

                                    #18
                                    We have all heard of dealers who know how to manipulate their spins to give themsleves an edge greater than 10%. They use a a surrogate at the table to collect. I guess this may be the only way to beat roulette consistently.
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                                    • pico
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 04-05-07
                                      • 27321

                                      #19
                                      if you switch the ball, maybe
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                                      • Dark Horse
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-14-05
                                        • 13764

                                        #20
                                        I may get a wheel, just to practice tossing the ball in a certain area. Any recommended grips?
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                                        • unit1884
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 06-11-08
                                          • 938

                                          #21
                                          Dont waste your time trying to beat a roulette wheel. Even if you do manage to find a crooked table, security will be onto you once you come day after day to the same wheel.

                                          The only "REAL" way to beat roulette is to go all-in and hope you win.
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                                          • unit1884
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 06-11-08
                                            • 938

                                            #22
                                            Also Justin, what is the point of this thread?
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                                            • reno cool
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-02-08
                                              • 3567

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by St. Andrew
                                              We have all heard of dealers who know how to manipulate their spins to give themsleves an edge greater than 10%. They use a a surrogate at the table to collect. I guess this may be the only way to beat roulette consistently.
                                              you learn of one way and then assume it is the only way. why?
                                              bird bird da bird's da word
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                                              • reno cool
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-02-08
                                                • 3567

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                I may get a wheel, just to practice tossing the ball in a certain area. Any recommended grips?
                                                Beware that even the slightest tilt or uneven surface will bias drop off point.
                                                bird bird da bird's da word
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                                                • reno cool
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-02-08
                                                  • 3567

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by unit1884
                                                  Dont waste your time trying to beat a roulette wheel. Even if you do manage to find a crooked table, security will be onto you once you come day after day to the same wheel.

                                                  The only "REAL" way to beat roulette is to go all-in and hope you win.
                                                  again, there are ways to milk an advantage wisely. Roulette offers long odds and big payouts. If an advantage is found a smart gamblers could make his wins appear inline with any other gambler who got lucky.
                                                  bird bird da bird's da word
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