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  • TotallyTilt
    SBR Rookie
    • 09-16-08
    • 23

    #1
    Matchbook Vig Question
    How does the VIG Matchbook takes impact what you need your win % to be to show a profit? In other words, assume that you're able to obtain +100 odds on a game you're positive has a 50% chance of winning. After Matchbook takes their 2% on your winnings, what % of these games would you need to win? What if they take 3%?

    From an odds perspective, how much would you need to beat the closing line by (assuming the closing line is efficient) to overcome Matchbook's vig... +102 or +103 on a +100 line?


    I appreciate any help on this.
  • Ganchrow
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-28-05
    • 5011

    #2
    Originally posted by TotallyTilt
    How does the VIG Matchbook takes impact what you need your win % to be to show a profit? In other words, assume that you're able to obtain +100 odds on a game you're positive has a 50% chance of winning. After Matchbook takes their 2% on your winnings, what % of these games would you need to win? What if they take 3%?

    From an odds perspective, how much would you need to beat the closing line by (assuming the closing line is efficient) to overcome Matchbook's vig... +102 or +103 on a +100 line?


    I appreciate any help on this.
    Breakeven on a decimal line of D, given % commission on wins of c would be given by:
    1 (c + (1 - c) * D)

    So breakeven on a US line of:
    • at 2% comm would be 1 (2% + 98% * ) 50.25% 50.51%
    • at 2% comm would be 1 (2% + 98% * ) 52.63% 52.88%
    • at 2% comm would be 1 (2% + 98% * ) 51.47% 51.72%
    • at 2% comm would be 1 (2% + 98% * ) 49.03% 49.29%
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    • Justin7
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 07-31-06
      • 8577

      #3
      I didn't follow that Ganch...

      Let Profit = Winnings - Losings.
      Profit = 0 for breakeven.
      Wp = win percentage
      0 = wp (0.98) - (1 - wp)
      0 = 0.98 (wp) -1 + wp
      1.98 wp = 1
      wp = 1/1.98, or about 50.5%

      Hmmm. that doesn't look right either. I'll take another look after I'm caffeinated
      .
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      • TotallyTilt
        SBR Rookie
        • 09-16-08
        • 23

        #4
        Originally posted by Ganchrow
        Breakeven on a decimal line of D, given % commission on wins of c would be given by:
        1 (c + (1 - c) * D)

        So breakeven on a US line of:
        • at 2% comm would be 1 (2% + 98% * ) 50.25% 50.51%
        • at 2% comm would be 1 (2% + 98% * ) 52.63% 52.88%
        • at 2% comm would be 1 (2% + 98% * ) 51.47% 51.72%
        • at 2% comm would be 1 (2% + 98% * ) 49.03% 49.29%
        Ok, so to check this:

        Let's say I bet $1 10,000 times at 2% (2 cents) commission.

        I win 5025 times or $5,025 minus commission. Commission is 5025 * .02 or $100.50. So, I win $4924.50.

        I lose $1 4975 times or -$4975.

        So, my net would be -$51.50 unless I'm doing something wrong.
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        • Ganchrow
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-28-05
          • 5011

          #5
          I just corrected the above arithmetic to reflect 2% comms (the values were given for 1% comms).

          You can also use the e2s() function in my VBA Sportsbetting Template for Excel to painlessly convert between exchange and regular odds.
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          • TotallyTilt
            SBR Rookie
            • 09-16-08
            • 23

            #6
            Great, thanks for your help.
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