TCU-Best Team in Country-Vote NOW!!

**HoldEmHook!!** · 12-22-09, 10:04 PM

Bama would beat TCU...Put TCU in the SEC and they have 2 losses this year and be going to a non-BCS bowl.

**ezmoney** · 12-22-09, 10:20 PM

I wish ALA was playing TCU, Nebraska had Texas beat till last second review, totally outplayed them. One of my top plays, Neb plus the points over Az.

**yisman** · 12-22-09, 10:21 PM

TCU.

**LINE-crush-ER** · 12-22-09, 10:32 PM

Tcu might be a better match that texas
They dont deserve it over texas
its just that easy
tcu is very healthy for reason , they dont play a very hard conference
Tcu has a chance to seperate them self from Boise state though
If Tcu can win as predicted they wont worry about playing was teams in bowls next year
Boise state has more to prove this year than any other team , if they cant get a win over tcu they will never not be over looked
over 1 loss teams in the sec etc .
Tcu doesnt have the depth to play in the sec so certainly you cant justify that tcu deserves a chance for a national title shot
there is a reason these teams are undefeated , and honestly i dont wont to pay out more money for play off games to watch my team play tcu , cincy or boise state .
no history in those teams mentioned and Boise state year after year its hard to feel for them , they make it hard for teams to wont to play them as they only wont wo play at home at at use the west coast time zone in theri favor and play a late night game
Boise in my opinion is just happy going to a bcs game and getting lucky only having to play tcu
its also noted that TCu is happy about their matchup as well
Youll see a much better game with texas and alabama
and they wont have to worry about selling tickets either

**BigdaddyQH** · 12-23-09, 10:38 AM

Alabama would defeat TCU, though I think it would be a better game than most feel it would be. Texas could also defeat TCU. Again, a close game, but the talent level favors Texas.

**Tmack** · 12-23-09, 12:31 PM

TCU is flat out awesome. I think they could compete with Alabama if given the chance. Too bad they didn't at least get a shot at Florida. Talent, Schmalent. No one gave Utah a chance last year vs 'Bama and they spanked their ass good. TCU may very well be the best team but we'll NEVER KNOW because of this f**ked up BCS system!

**Serbone** · 12-23-09, 12:47 PM

# 1 Alabama.
TCU is about 10th - 15th best.
If they played in tougher conference, they would have 1 - 3 losses.
SEC 2-3, Pac 10 2, Big East 2, Big 12 2, ACC 1-2, Big 10 1-2.

**Pride>UFC** · 12-23-09, 01:41 PM

TCU would destroy Texas...

I think they'd be able to score more than 13 vs Nebraska and I think they'd score more than 13 vs Chokelahoma too

**VenomLugz** · 12-23-09, 01:50 PM

TCU would have beat Alabama since Utah beat Alabama last year! I hate TEXAS!!!

**BigdaddyQH** · 12-23-09, 02:04 PM

So you think just because last years Utah team defeated last years 2 loss Alabama team is justification for saying tha this years TCS team could beat this years undefeated Alabama team. That is really a very weak argument. The argument to be made here is that TCU played in a very weak conference. Their SOS is 84, compared to Alabama's 20. As a matter of fact, the only BCS team that has a worse SOS than TCU is Boise State, the team that they are playing in the Fiesta Bowl. That alone can destroy any argument that TCU is better than Alabama or Texas,much less Cincinnati, or Ga. Tech. Utah, the team which has been used in this comparison, lost to Oregon this season. Does that mean that TCU would lose to Oregon? Probably not, though I would take Oregon over TCU heads up. It would have been nice to see TCU play a BCS conference Champion, but such is not the case. The winner of the Alabama-Texas game will be #1 and very deserving of the title. TCU has a good team, but do youreally think they could have gone undefeated in any BCS Conference? I really have my doubts.

**hugh_morris** · 12-23-09, 02:46 PM

Anyway you look at it , this will be a shootout with TCU and Boise ST.

How about TCU and Florida?....hmmmmm

**garlic toast** · 12-23-09, 02:49 PM

Horny frogs are the best

**Pride>UFC** · 12-24-09, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

So you think just because last years Utah team defeated last years 2 loss Alabama team is justification for saying tha this years TCS team could beat this years undefeated Alabama team. That is really a very weak argument. The argument to be made here is that TCU played in a very weak conference. Their SOS is 84, compared to Alabama's 20. As a matter of fact, the only BCS team that has a worse SOS than TCU is Boise State, the team that they are playing in the Fiesta Bowl. That alone can destroy any argument that TCU is better than Alabama or Texas,much less Cincinnati, or Ga. Tech. Utah, the team which has been used in this comparison, lost to Oregon this season. Does that mean that TCU would lose to Oregon? Probably not, though I would take Oregon over TCU heads up. It would have been nice to see TCU play a BCS conference Champion, but such is not the case. The winner of the Alabama-Texas game will be #1 and very deserving of the title. TCU has a good team, but do youreally think they could have gone undefeated in any BCS Conference? I really have my doubts.

do u have to write a book every time u disagree with something?

**Tmack** · 12-24-09, 11:55 AM

BigDaddy, please explain to me how the MWC is so weak. Utah and BYU just spanked 2 good PAC-10 teams. Not even close in either game. During the season BYU beat Oklahoma, Utah only lost to Oregon by a TD at Autzen stadium, very hard place to play. In football this year the MWC was better than the Big East and is comparable to the ACC and the Big 10.

**LINE-crush-ER** · 12-24-09, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by VenomLugz

TCU would have beat Alabama since Utah beat Alabama last year! I hate TEXAS!!!

man I m betting your booky loves you
Alabama actually finally woke up and Stopped them , pretty sure they beat em the last three quarters of the game , they just didnt have an offense to catch up
although they were playing their first game without smith
a simialr game when playing kentucky this year after they lost hightower
and didnt do well without him yet they managed to figure em out
this year is different as they have a much better offense
Tcu needs to worry about boise state because thats who they are playing and they and will end up being ranked number two undefeated .
A note anyone but tebow would probable lose the sugar bowl after the hard loss in the sec game to alabama , so not a real good comparison
alabama fans didnt even travel well last year , and thats very uncommon for them not to travel well
so the team wasnt the only ones that didnt want to play utah last year

**Serbone** · 12-24-09, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by VenomLugz

TCU would have beat Alabama since Utah beat Alabama last year! I hate TEXAS!!!

Alabama had NO INTEREST in playing Utah last yr, they were deflated after FLA game.

Plus they lost All Universe left tackle before game then another OL at the beginning of the game.

It was the GAME OF THE MILLENIUM for Utah last yr, fired up for 4 quarters.

Look at Ore St this yr... lost by a few to Oregon, coulda gone to Rose Bowl for first time in 40 yrs. So they slept thru game vs BYU from lesser conference.

It is not who you play, it is when you play them.

**PAULYPOKER** · 12-24-09, 03:31 PM

TCU will not be #1

**tbonmusikman** · 12-24-09, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by Serbone

# 1 Alabama.
TCU is about 10th - 15th best.
If they played in tougher conference, they would have 1 - 3 losses.
SEC 2-3, Pac 10 2, Big East 2, Big 12 2, ACC 1-2, Big 10 1-2.

Yes

Originally posted by Tmack

In football this year the MWC was better than the Big East and is comparable to the ACC

Really want to be compared to the ACC? Have you seen them play? Also, if you're comparing your team to an ACC team then saying they'd be better than Alabama that's just ridiculous-ACC teams have gotten crushed by SEC teams all year (Georgia, a 6-5 SEC team beat GT a 10-1 ACC team)

**Tmack** · 12-24-09, 04:42 PM

TCU could compete with Alabama. This argument that Alabama didn't come to play against Utah last year is BS. Who wants to be embarrassed like that? If Bama had put the beat down on Utah would anyone have said "oh Utah didn't come to play"? When a team kicks another teams arse give them credit...... they WON. I've seen TCU play many times this year, they're flat out awesome and they would give Bama all they could handle. Bama does not want to play them, Florida doesn't either, that's a guarantee and that's why they stuck em with Boise. And I'm not a TCU fan by the way............

**ezmoney** · 12-24-09, 05:00 PM

Tmack,
Like your analysis, TCU would blow Texas off the field, BCS is afraid of letting WAC into the fold.

**ezmoney** · 12-25-09, 09:07 AM

Correction, my last comment should have been Mountain West Conference, NOT WAC.

**dmtrader** · 12-25-09, 09:16 AM

I would just like to see TCU play anyone but Boise, perhaps Oregon or GA Tech

**HoldEmHook!!** · 12-25-09, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by Tmack

TCU could compete with Alabama. This argument that Alabama didn't come to play against Utah last year is BS. Who wants to be embarrassed like that? If Bama had put the beat down on Utah would anyone have said "oh Utah didn't come to play"? When a team kicks another teams arse give them credit...... they WON. I've seen TCU play many times this year, they're flat out awesome and they would give Bama all they could handle. Bama does not want to play them, Florida doesn't either, that's a guarantee and that's why they stuck em with Boise. And I'm not a TCU fan by the way............

What possible weight does last year play? With the last year argument Fla. should have gotten a bye to the national championship game. oh and comparing TCU to the ACC and big east is a flat out joke in re-guards to national prominence. Bama is not the same team as last year. Boise state is 1-4 in there last 5 bowl games. Because they beat OK. they are cosidered the biggest little school in the world. The strength of schedules for Boise and TCU are pathetic for a BCS game,Boise 98 and TCU 82. Now the SEC run down........Ole miss 43, Kentucky 36, Tenn 45, Fla 24, LSU 15, BAMA 12, Ark 13, Aub 14,Geo 5.... The fact that the little big schools play a lesser schedule really is a mockery of the rankings. Body of work doesnt factor in to the over-all selection. 5 years ago lesser conferences would have never been in the BCS bowl picture and now 2 teams are playing in a BCS bowl that came from lesser conferences. Growing pains suck for anybody but unless there is consistency, and not flash in the pan 3 or 4 year uprising, this is exactly what the little big schools should expect. Respect, tradition, and history are earned not assumed. If the little big schools TCU,Boise,Utah continue there play then things will fall into place. The best thing for all will be when the big ten picks up there 12th school and the pac 10 follows with picking up BYU and Utah........the big ten gets missouri, the big 12 gets TCU, Then the pac10 gets the afore mentioned schools and alot of this speculation will be put to rest...

**BigdaddyQH** · 12-25-09, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Tmack

BigDaddy, please explain to me how the MWC is so weak. Utah and BYU just spanked 2 good PAC-10 teams. Not even close in either game. During the season BYU beat Oklahoma, Utah only lost to Oregon by a TD at Autzen stadium, very hard place to play. In football this year the MWC was better than the Big East and is comparable to the ACC and the Big 10.

The problem with the MWC is this. As a conference, they do not play nearly as tough a schedule as the BCS Conferences play. Or at least that is how the NCAA sees it. Let us look at the MWC non-con schedule. TCU has one solid win at Clemson. They have another BCS win at Virginia. Utah lost to Oregon and beat Louisville. BYU lost to Florida State and beat OU. Air Force lost to Minnesota and Navy. UNLV lost to Oregon State. San Diego State lost to UCLA. Colorado State defeated Colorado. Wyoming lost to Texas. New Mexico lost to A&M and T-Tech.

Put that all together and you have the MWC teams are 4-9 in the regular season against BCS Teams and the Navy. That is simply not good enough to crash the BCS. Look at the stats closer and you will see that 2 of those 4 non-con wins are against teams that did not go to bowl games at all this year, but all 9 of their non-con BCS losses were against teams that did go to bowl games. So a record of 2-9 against BCS Bwol teams is not going to cut it. The overall conference strength is not quite there yet, as far as the BCS is concerned.