Horrible line alert - Duke at Miami, wrong team favored.

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  • Mac4Lyfe
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-04-09
    • 48483

    #1
    Horrible line alert - Duke at Miami, wrong team favored.
    What the Fvuk am I missing? Miami's at home? So, they have no home field advantage. They played Nebraska pretty well? So, NB's offense is entirely different from Duke's.

    This Duke team is getting no respect. Everyone still thinks Duke is a basketball school. Duke beat Miami last year easily and this years team is better and Miami is worst.

    This line is all kinds of wrong. I hate to ever say Vegas fvukked up but Vegas Fvukked up. Duke should be favored by a TD in this one.

    Duke +7 (-108) is stealing. So I'm taking Duke ML +240

    The Over 59.5 looks very good as well.
  • face
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-31-11
    • 14740

    #2
    [QUOTE=Mac4Lyfe;22663339 Miami's at home? So, they have no home field advantage.


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    • Mac4Lyfe
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      • 01-04-09
      • 48483

      #3
      A lot of Duke alumni live in South Florida... They just might have more fans.
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      • Vegas39
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        • 09-22-11
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        #4
        Originally posted by face
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        • Bet10Heinekens
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          • 01-10-13
          • 10567

          #5
          Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
          What the Fvuk am I missing? Miami's at home? So, they have no home field advantage. They played Nebraska pretty well? So, NB's offense is entirely different from Duke's.

          This Duke team is getting no respect. Everyone still thinks Duke is a basketball school. Duke beat Miami last year easily and this years team is better and Miami is worst.

          This line is all kinds of wrong. I hate to ever say Vegas fvukked up but Vegas Fvukked up. Duke should be favored by a TD in this one.

          Duke +7 (-108) is stealing. So I'm taking Duke ML +240

          The Over 59.5 looks very good as well.
          No more glory days of the Orange Bowl


          I'm a little worry about Duke defense, they should load the box and try to stop Johnson, make the freshman QB Kaaya beat them. I can picture him throwing some picks.
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          • Mac4Lyfe
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            • 01-04-09
            • 48483

            #6
            That would be my game plan. I think Duke will end up with more rushing yards. They have a great run game that will cause Miami fits. Johnson is healthy but I don't think he can beat them by himself.

            Originally posted by Bet10Heinekens
            No more glory days of the Orange Bowl
            I'm a little worry about Duke defense, they should load the box and try to stop Johnson, make the freshman QB Kaaya beat them. I can picture him throwing some picks.
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            • TPowell
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-21-08
              • 18842

              #7
              I agree, I think Duke is a great play. I grabbed it at 7.5 earlier
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              • boss_of_um
                SBR MVP
                • 08-18-11
                • 1092

                #8
                It will be a shootout. I thought Miami would be -3. Opened at 5 and bet up to 7 already. How anyone can say Duke is better than last year at this point is making a leap with no real evidence to support it though. Beating up on the gauntlet of Elon/Troy/Kansas/Tulane doesn't prove anything. It will take 40 points to win this game, IMO. Miami is more than happy to throw on Duke so loading up to stop the run won't stop Miami from scoring.
                I'd take Duke +7 personally because it is hard to cover a TD when you can't get a stop. Sucks being an alum and knowing it is true.
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                • Mac4Lyfe
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                  • 01-04-09
                  • 48483

                  #9
                  Duke is returning 14 starters, all the skill positions on offense. 2 NFL future guys on the OLine, very veteran QB and quality DBs. Duke ran up ~400 yards on the ground last year and has more rush playmakers this year. Believe it or not but Duke is the more physical team.

                  Miami's QB is getting better but Dukes LB's and DBs are their strength. Miami is going to have to establish a run game and the TE. Can they do it consistently? Who most likely will make the most mistakes? I think Miami. Who's the better game day coach? Cutcliffe by a mile.


                  Originally posted by boss_of_um
                  It will be a shootout. I thought Miami would be -3. Opened at 5 and bet up to 7 already. How anyone can say Duke is better than last year at this point is making a leap with no real evidence to support it though. Beating up on the gauntlet of Elon/Troy/Kansas/Tulane doesn't prove anything. It will take 40 points to win this game, IMO. Miami is more than happy to throw on Duke so loading up to stop the run won't stop Miami from scoring.
                  I'd take Duke +7 personally because it is hard to cover a TD when you can't get a stop. Sucks being an alum and knowing it is true.
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                  • GT21Megatron
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                    • 12-20-13
                    • 10818

                    #10
                    Miami by 10
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                    • PhilTheTHRILL
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-07-13
                      • 1169

                      #11
                      Completely Agree here. GREAT value in Duke. They win this SU easily.
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                      • laclippers504
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                        • 08-21-06
                        • 4553

                        #12
                        Originally posted by GT21Megatron
                        Miami by 10
                        Explain...
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                        • shopbar picks
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                          • 12-08-10
                          • 2157

                          #13
                          Miami left a lot of emotion in Lincoln. Have a feeling they won't be up for this game. Duke wins outright
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                          • sneakerhead
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 07-14-10
                            • 7727

                            #14
                            I highlighted this game last week. I would have expected the line to move towards Duke but its been the opposite, ML moved from +185 to 185 and it moved 3 points or so

                            Public seems to be on Duke heavily and so does SBR. The whole thread thinks Duke wins SU or at least covers besides GT21. Even on BTP, 17 on Duke and 1 on UM, seems like a SBR burial in the making.
                            I might just stay away or maybe look at the over
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                            • Mac4Lyfe
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-04-09
                              • 48483

                              #15
                              Yeah, I'll have to agree. If the line doesn't move towards Duke we are Fvukked. We have plenty of time to review but if it keeps trending up then lower your Duke bets because we're cooked.

                              See Indiana vs Missouri last week. Trap like a mofo.

                              Originally posted by sneakerhead
                              I highlighted this game last week. I would have expected the line to move towards Duke but its been the opposite, ML moved from +185 to 185 and it moved 3 points or so

                              Public seems to be on Duke heavily and so does SBR. The whole thread thinks Duke wins SU or at least covers besides GT21. Even on BTP, 17 on Duke and 1 on UM, seems like a SBR burial in the making.
                              I might just stay away or maybe look at the over
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                              • GT21Megatron
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                                • 12-20-13
                                • 10818

                                #16
                                A) Miami is playing with revenge. Last year was the first time they ever lost to Duke ever in football. Yea they have had this game circled.

                                B) Duke won't run for 358 yards on the ground like last year. Zero chance.

                                C) Kaaya threw for 358 yards last week on the road again a good Nebraska D. Duke is not Nebraksa on that side of the ball.

                                D) Duke has played against the #125, #93, and #85 ranked defenses and now get Miamis speed to deal with.

                                Miami 31-17

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                                • mcdonae101
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                                  • 03-02-14
                                  • 3646

                                  #17
                                  duke has won 12 str8 regular season games
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                                  • Mac4Lyfe
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-04-09
                                    • 48483

                                    #18
                                    A. I don't buy into the revenge angle. Duke isn't even close to a rivalry like FSU, Florida or even Nebraska or ND. Miami players still think Duke is Duke, just like the buying public

                                    B. I wouldn't be surprised if Duke rolls up a lot of yards again on the ground. Their run game is hard to scheme against, especially if you are not disciplined and Miami certainly is not disciplined. They have a 4 prong running attack this year which will be hard to defend.

                                    C. Duke's defensive backs are pretty solid. So are the linebackers. Their weakness is in the defensive line. Johnson will get his yards but I think Kaaya struggles here.

                                    D. Miami's defense has not been very good of late. Speed is only good if you're disciplined. I think Duke will use Miami's speed against themselves. We shall see.

                                    Originally posted by GT21Megatron
                                    A) Miami is playing with revenge. Last year was the first time they ever lost to Duke ever in football. Yea they have had this game circled.

                                    B) Duke won't run for 358 yards on the ground like last year. Zero chance.

                                    C) Kaaya threw for 358 yards last week on the road again a good Nebraska D. Duke is not Nebraksa on that side of the ball.

                                    D) Duke has played against the #125, #93, and #85 ranked defenses and now get Miamis speed to deal with.

                                    Miami 31-17

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                                    • sneakerhead
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 07-14-10
                                      • 7727

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                      Miami players still think Duke is Duke, just like the buying public
                                      I would disagree with that, the buying public respects Duke thus everyone and their mom is picking them to win outright. Miami revenge angle is legitimate too. If I remember correctly last year Duke Johnson didnt play against Duke either.
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                                      • laclippers504
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 08-21-06
                                        • 4553

                                        #20
                                        I am beginning to sense something fishy with this game
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                                        • Pivotpoint
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-02-06
                                          • 1762

                                          #21
                                          Mac4lyfe, have to agree here. Duke has a nicely balanced attack. Sr Qb Boone 14-2 SU as a starter vs Canes True Frosh Kaaya who continues to make poor decisions (7 picks). Note Blue Devils should be in a position to capitalize if trend continues. Blue Devils 6 picks last two games.

                                          Hate backing teams that lack discipline. Canes 41 penalties vs Blue Devils 20.

                                          Interesting stat the Duke has yet to give up a single pt ytd in 4th qtr.

                                          Kids a frosh and hasn't seen much in terms of stiff competition, but looking forward to seeing how RB Shaun Wilson fares against Cane Run D. Wilson averaging an eye catching 14.4 ypc so far this year. Cornhuskers ran roughshod over what was thought to be a stiff run D with 343 yards!

                                          Of concern, Duke has faced some super weak Defenses. Kansas#85,Tulane#93,Troy#125 and unranked FCS, Elon. Kaaya did throw for 359 yards against Cornhusker D. Canes have owned Devils @ Miami last few trips.

                                          This does look to easy and we all know it never is. I'll place some chips on the Sr QB running a balanced disciplined attack vs a frosh that shows potential, but prone to making mistakes against a ball hawking Blue Devil secondary. Wouldn't be surprised to have a key penalty or two help cover the spread or even the outright win.
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                                          • GT21Megatron
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                                            • 12-20-13
                                            • 10818

                                            #22
                                            Duke football over achieved last year...this is a burial waiting to happen
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                                            • LeaninBack916
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 09-27-13
                                              • 378

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by sneakerhead
                                              I highlighted this game last week. I would have expected the line to move towards Duke but its been the opposite, ML moved from +185 to 185 and it moved 3 points or so

                                              Public seems to be on Duke heavily and so does SBR. The whole thread thinks Duke wins SU or at least covers besides GT21. Even on BTP, 17 on Duke and 1 on UM, seems like a SBR burial in the making.
                                              I might just stay away or maybe look at the over
                                              I'll go down fighting then because even the sharps are on Duke. There must be the unknown factor of Duke against what the books perceive Miami to be at quality wise. I don't see it. The numbers I crunch don't see it. The angles I've been looking at when comparing years of data, rosters, quality of schedule, etc... don't see it. I like Duke ML and I wish the best to all who are on it. I also laid a parlay with New Mexico St and Duke +7.5 tomorrow for some change to cover my Duke 4 unit ML. Hoping it all pays out
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                                              • TheLock
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 04-06-08
                                                • 14427

                                                #24
                                                Miami -7 +100 is my biggest play tomorrow.

                                                It's the fishiest line of the college football season so far.
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                                                • TheLock
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 04-06-08
                                                  • 14427

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by LeaninBack916
                                                  because even the sharps are on Duke.
                                                  I'm curious......how did you arrive at this conclusion?
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                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                    • 48483

                                                    #26
                                                    The line is starting to level back to Duke some. But I do agree that the line still does smell. I'm watching it carefully up till kickoff. If it doesn't move more towards Duke, I'm going to cut my bet a bit. If it does move, I'm hammering Duke. My head says Duke wins outright. The line right now says, "Prepare thy Anus for Penetration".

                                                    Originally posted by TheLock
                                                    Miami -7 +100 is my biggest play tomorrow.

                                                    It's the fishiest line of the college football season so far.
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                                                    • jtoler
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                                                      • 12-17-13
                                                      • 30967

                                                      #27
                                                      So Duke should be favored at Miami? What should the line be?
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                                                      • Mac4Lyfe
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-04-09
                                                        • 48483

                                                        #28
                                                        I've got Duke winning this game by ~6 points.

                                                        Duke is better at almost every position but maybe RB and DLine (which is questionable). Better QB, better OLine, better Receivers. Better coaching staff, Better at creating turnovers, make less mistakes. Better punter, place kicker.

                                                        Tossup TE's, LB's, Kick returners are equal, DB's are equal.

                                                        Which team is more balanced? Duke. Which team is sure to put up points? Duke. Which team will probably make the most mistakes. Miami.

                                                        The weather could be a small factor as it will be raining during the day but should be clear at kickoff. The ball could be wet/humid but that could help Duke stripping abilities.

                                                        Originally posted by jtoler
                                                        So Duke should be favored at Miami? What should the line be?
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                                                        • Hot Jerry
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                                                          • 08-16-13
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                                                          #29
                                                          WNT
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                                                          • ronald
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                                                            • 10-31-05
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                                                            #30
                                                            Did you remember to factor in the REVENGE factor?
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                                                            • Lineman
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                                                              • 11-21-09
                                                              • 2597

                                                              #31
                                                              If it looks too good, it probably is.
                                                              MIAMI it is!
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                                                              • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 01-04-09
                                                                • 48483

                                                                #32
                                                                I don't think revenge is as much as a factor as "the little brother" syndrome. Duke has more to prove than Miami if you ask me.

                                                                Originally posted by ronald
                                                                Did you remember to factor in the REVENGE factor?
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                                                                • jtoler
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                                                                  • 12-17-13
                                                                  • 30967

                                                                  #33
                                                                  So if you ran a book youd make Duke faves?
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                                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                                    • 48483

                                                                    #34
                                                                    If I ran a book, I probably wouldn't be posting winners.

                                                                    Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                    So if you ran a book youd make Duke faves?
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                                                                    • boss_of_um
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                                                                      • 08-18-11
                                                                      • 1092

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Duke ML is a waste of money. Duke covering has a legit chance of hitting.
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