Ole Miss -3 vs GTech?

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  • TPowell
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-21-08
    • 18842

    #1
    Ole Miss -3 vs GTech?
    In what world does that make sense? The ACC is a JOKE and Ole Miss was one of the more talented teams in the SEC this year just young. The extra time should benefit the young Rebs. My bowl season lock!
  • M.W.
    SBR MVP
    • 09-07-08
    • 1668

    #2
    Ole Miss had a disappointing season at 3-5 in the SEC. The SEC is better than the ACC, but this is ACC #3 vs. SEC #8. GT probably ought to be favored except for Tech's troubles in bowls and Womack's familiarity with Johnson's offense..
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    • Capper1124
      SBR MVP
      • 11-23-13
      • 1914

      #3
      I like ole miss allot in this one. GL to you
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      • TPowell
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        • 02-21-08
        • 18842

        #4
        Originally posted by M.W.
        Ole Miss had a disappointing season at 3-5 in the SEC. The SEC is better than the ACC, but this is ACC #3 vs. SEC #8. GT probably ought to be favored except for Tech's troubles in bowls and Womack's familiarity with Johnson's offense..
        listen to yourself. You think Tech was better than VT or Miami? LOL
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        • Wulfman14
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          • 08-24-10
          • 8869

          #5
          Ole miss got one of the best rush defenses, triple option ain't gonna fool nobody. Ole miss covers easily.
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          • Marigold HD
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            • 09-03-07
            • 5053

            #6
            thanks guys
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            • M.W.
              SBR MVP
              • 09-07-08
              • 1668

              #7
              Originally posted by TPowell
              listen to yourself. You think Tech was better than VT or Miami? LOL
              Absolutely. You can disagree, but yes, of course.
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              • coitus_maximus
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-05-12
                • 870

                #8
                Something is very screwy about this game.
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                • No coincidences
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-18-10
                  • 76300

                  #9
                  Originally posted by coitus_maximus
                  Something is very screwy about this game.
                  Agree. Ole Miss should be -5 minimum here.
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                  • coitus_maximus
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 01-05-12
                    • 870

                    #10
                    Only thing I really don't like about Ole Miss is Wallace taking time for his throws. GT pass rush is #5 in the country. With over 70% on Ole Miss and no line movement. Odd.
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                    • Jknight
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 07-22-12
                      • 58

                      #11
                      Pretty sure a couple of Rebs are gonna be out... Logan one of the receivers, Jeff Scott the running back, and 2 offensive linemen.., but the Rebs are deep at skilled positions and Scott has missed a few games this year... I think the Rebs take this one, but I would take a good look at the injury report closer to game time
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                      • ZIPPER HEAD
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-17-13
                        • 2592

                        #12
                        Originally posted by M.W.
                        Ole Miss had a disappointing season at 3-5 in the SEC. The SEC is better than the ACC, but this is ACC #3 vs. SEC #8. GT probably ought to be favored except for Tech's troubles in bowls and Womack's familiarity with Johnson's offense..
                        You hit it on the head. Not going to be a cakewalk for oil miss in this one.
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                        • bluebeachred
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                          • 12-27-13
                          • 44

                          #13
                          Don't over think it...Ole Miss is the pick.
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                          • broadway6
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-14-09
                            • 13337

                            #14
                            Originally posted by M.W.
                            Ole Miss had a disappointing season at 3-5 in the SEC. The SEC is better than the ACC, but this is ACC #3 vs. SEC #8. GT probably ought to be favored except for Tech's troubles in bowls and Womack's familiarity with Johnson's offense..
                            Did you mean the Atlantic Division #3 team?
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                            • aman86
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-29-09
                              • 3115

                              #15
                              I'm on ole miss large -3.. looks a little too ez...but it is the season of receiving. ..right?

                              gt 1-7 in bowl games....playing a solid sec team....forget about it! !
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                              • Snowball
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 11-15-09
                                • 30064

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Wulfman14
                                Ole miss got one of the best rush defenses, triple option ain't gonna fool nobody. Ole miss covers easily.
                                Miss ranks 53rd in rush defense by yards allowed.
                                GT ranks 5th in yards gained by rush.
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                                • broadway6
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                                  • 11-14-09
                                  • 13337

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by aman86
                                  I'm on ole miss large -3.. looks a little too ez...but it is the season of receiving. ..right?

                                  gt 1-7 in bowl games....playing a solid sec team....forget about it! !
                                  Solid = a losing conference record?
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                                  • ctny85
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 10-18-13
                                    • 188

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by broadway6
                                    Solid = a losing conference record?

                                    Goergia tech doesn't have a good win all year unless you count a home w vs UNC 28-20 early when Carolina was not playing nearly as well as they have in their strong finish. I don't discredit Miss for losing to auburn alabama a and m and mizzou. Miss beat LSU. It's the SEC.

                                    @ auburn lost 22-30

                                    vs tex a and m lost 38-41
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                                    • Simon Gruber
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                                      • 05-02-13
                                      • 2342

                                      #19
                                      down to 2' now at most places
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                                      • trendon
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                                        • 12-06-10
                                        • 534

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ctny85
                                        Goergia tech doesn't have a good win all year unless you count a home w vs UNC 28-20 early when Carolina was not playing nearly as well as they have in their strong finish. I don't discredit Miss for losing to auburn alabama a and m and mizzou. Miss beat LSU. It's the SEC.

                                        @ auburn lost 22-30

                                        vs tex a and m lost 38-41
                                        They blasted Duke. Once you get the thought "Duke" out of your head and look at the team, it was a quality win.
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                                        • ctny85
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 10-18-13
                                          • 188

                                          #21
                                          True, the page I was looking at didnt show that W because of how long ago it was. But dukes defense isn't really impressive. Shit Pitt posted 58 at duke.

                                          my point is its nonsense to just look at miss record in conference
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                                          • M.W.
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                                            • 09-07-08
                                            • 1668

                                            #22
                                            If we're going to think of Vandy as a quality win (and we probably should), then we should consider the possibility that Duke is a quality win -- at least this year. Someone mentioned that GT was fortunate to play UNC early in the year, and I agree, but note that UM's win over Texas came when UT was in disarray before Diaz was fired.
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                                            • M.W.
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                                              • 09-07-08
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ctny85
                                              True, the page I was looking at didnt show that W because of how long ago it was. But dukes defense isn't really impressive. Shit Pitt posted 58 at duke.

                                              my point is its nonsense to just look at miss record in conference
                                              It's not nonsense at all. Ole Miss was supposed to win 4 or 5 conference games, but they only won three. Part of that is due to Auburn improving so much, but still this was a disappointing season, although injuries also played a big part.
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                                              • eeezzzz
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 08-24-12
                                                • 703

                                                #24
                                                GT has some pretty good stats to match up against Ole Miss which is why the line is probably where it is. However imo Ole Miss is the superior team when you see that all there losses were last minute touchdowns against AU, Texas AM, and Miss St. The losses that weren't as close came against really tough defenses (Mizzou and BAMA) and they still contained both these teams to under 30 points. They also had impressive wins against LSU and Texas.

                                                GT's losses on the other hand were blow outs against Miami, BYU, and Clemson and they had a close loss against VT in which the triple option was manhandled by VT.

                                                IDK about you guys but my money is on Ole miss on this 1. The triple option isn't that hard to face when you have a month to prepare.
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                                                • Mac4Lyfe
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 01-04-09
                                                  • 48485

                                                  #25
                                                  This is the main point. With a few weeks to prepare, most teams do well against the triple option. Just look at the bowl records.
                                                  The only thing worrying me is Ole Miss injuries. If guys are falling like flies, especially on defense. Then get cut down like tall trees in the game, GT could roll up a bunch of yards against a depleted team. I'm thinking OM has enough athletes to out physical them in the end.
                                                  Originally posted by eeezzzz
                                                  IDK about you guys but my money is on Ole miss on this 1. The triple option isn't that hard to face when you have a month to prepare.
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                                                  • Snowball
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                                                    • 11-15-09
                                                    • 30064

                                                    #26
                                                    you know it may be better to wait for 2h because if Ole Miss has early issues
                                                    with the triple-option it could take them to the 2nd half before getting a handle on things.
                                                    I'm thinking GT in 1st half then we'll see.........
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                                                    • ctny85
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                                                      • 10-18-13
                                                      • 188

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by M.W.
                                                      It's not nonsense at all. Ole Miss was supposed to win 4 or 5 conference games, but they only won three. Part of that is due to Auburn improving so much, but still this was a disappointing season, although injuries also played a big part.
                                                      Its complete nonsense. You're comparing apples and oranges. They play in different conferences, different opponents. Sec much tougher. You're pumped g tech went 5-3 in acc and down on miss for going 3-5 in sec. Guess what? They're both 7-5 that means miss went 4-0 out of conference and tech went 2-2....
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                                                      • Allen24
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 02-15-10
                                                        • 857

                                                        #28
                                                        I'm an OLE MISS fan and i don't trust use to win this game at all today against the rambling wreck we have looked really bad heading into this game i'm hoping i'm wrong especially because i've made the trip to Nashville and about to head to the game
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                                                        • M.W.
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                                                          • 09-07-08
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ctny85
                                                          Its complete nonsense. You're comparing apples and oranges. They play in different conferences, different opponents. Sec much tougher. You're pumped g tech went 5-3 in acc and down on miss for going 3-5 in sec. Guess what? They're both 7-5 that means miss went 4-0 out of conference and tech went 2-2....
                                                          I'm not saying anything about Georgia Tech. I'm talking about Ole Miss, and the point is that they were not nearly as good as they were expected to be. They were supposed to be significantly improved over last year, and they turned out to be weaker.
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                                                          • eeezzzz
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                                                            • 08-24-12
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by M.W.
                                                            I'm not saying anything about Georgia Tech. I'm talking about Ole Miss, and the point is that they were not nearly as good as they were expected to be. They were supposed to be significantly improved over last year, and they turned out to be weaker.
                                                            They were 3-5 in the SEC last year too. And coming into the bowl game 6-6 compared to 7-5 this year.
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                                                            • Trmeyer
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                                                              • 11-03-11
                                                              • 1836

                                                              #31
                                                              GL guys. I'm on GT here. I think if they can play a solid game on defense, that option ill put some points on the board. This is gonna be small play for me as I don't have confidence in either team.
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                                                              • Big Bear
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 11-01-11
                                                                • 43253

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                                Agree. Ole Miss should be -5 minimum here.
                                                                so in that case -3 is the play?
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                                                                • Big Bear
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 11-01-11
                                                                  • 43253

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Allen24
                                                                  I'm an OLE MISS fan and i don't trust use to win this game at all today against the rambling wreck we have looked really bad heading into this game i'm hoping i'm wrong especially because i've made the trip to Nashville and about to head to the game
                                                                  have yall faced any triple option teams?
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                                                                  • M.W.
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                                                                    • 09-07-08
                                                                    • 1668

                                                                    #34
                                                                    No, they haven't, but their DC was DC at Georgia Tech the first two years Paul Johnson was there with his option offense. And that's why Ole Miss might be the right side in this game. Tech was the better team over the course of the season, but Ole Miss has the advantage of a ton of prep time with a DC who knows Paul Johnson's offense intimately.
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                                                                    • suicidekings
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                                                                      • 03-23-09
                                                                      • 9962

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Wulfman14
                                                                      Ole miss got one of the best rush defenses, triple option ain't gonna fool nobody. Ole miss covers easily.
                                                                      Ummmm....

                                                                      They allowed Auburn to run for 282 @ 5.9ypc, Alabama 264 @ 6.4ypc, TAMU for 241 @ 5.4ypc, and Missouri 260 @ 5.1 ypc. They only held 4 teams under 100 yards, with those being Troy, Idaho, Mississippi State, and SE Missouri State. Against teams with a solid rushing game, they didn't stop anything...

                                                                      Against GTech, your base assumption should be that they'll struggle to stop the run and will need to win the game by limiting the Jackets' time of possession and/or scoring 35+ themselves. I don't see any reason to think Ole Miss will shut them down on the ground. The triple option isn't about fooling defenses. It's all about forcing them to play extremely disciplined assignment football, and not many teams can do that for 60 minutes.

                                                                      Not to say the Rebels can't win the game. But it will be a tough game for them.
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