I don't see any first round pick QBs besides Johnny Football being sucessful

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  • DoYouNotGetIT
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-25-13
    • 529

    #1
    I don't see any first round pick QBs besides Johnny Football being sucessful
    Brett Hundley still making the same mistakes as last year.
    Tajh Boyd is not a good passer. Have no clue how anyone says he is a NFL pro QB.
    Teddy Bridgewater last year had a problem facing good defenses.
    Marcus Mariota a system QB could be great, but have a feeling he will be mediocre in the NFL.
    Johnny Football great passer, plays great in big moments, plays better under pressure, and great scramble QB.

    Also can see Kevin Hogan being a great pro and won't be surprised if he goes in the first round.

    I had UCLA by the way.

    FYI By great I mean Hall of Fame
  • Hotlanta Steam
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-08-10
    • 896

    #2
    Originally posted by DoYouNotGetIT
    Brett Hundley still making the same mistakes as last year.
    Tajh Boyd is not a good passer. Have no clue how anyone says he is a NFL pro QB.
    Teddy Bridgewater last year had a problem facing good defenses.
    Marcus Mariota a system QB could be great, but have a feeling he will be mediocre in the NFL.
    Johnny Football great passer the ball, plays great in big moments, plays better under pressure, and great scramble QB.

    Also can see Kevin Hogan being a great pro and won't be surprised if he goes in the first round.

    I had UCLA by the way.
    Johnny Football in the first rd of the NFL... draft... just so we are clear... that is what you are saying?

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    • DoYouNotGetIT
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 09-25-13
      • 529

      #3
      Originally posted by Hotlanta Steam
      Johnny Football in the first rd of the NFL... draft... just so we are clear... that is what you are saying?

      Most updated drafts have Manziel going in the first round. Browns with two first round picks have been sniffing around Manziel.
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      • Pickem2win
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 09-16-11
        • 978

        #4
        Keith Price of Washington has a fantastic shot at going in the first round
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        • Skinsbaby
          SBR Sharp
          • 09-28-13
          • 316

          #5
          Poor Guy....The Browns...Have fun in boring Cleveland
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          • DoYouNotGetIT
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-25-13
            • 529

            #6
            Originally posted by Skinsbaby
            Poor Guy....The Browns...Have fun in boring Cleveland
            He has a shot with The Eagles too, because it will be between Johnny Football and Mariota. I just think Boyd will fall out of the first round. He also has a shot with Houston Texans. I don't think they will pass up on a home town kid, because of having David Carr and Matt Schwab. Cardinals, Titans, Rams and Vikings who knows what they will do.

            Jags will take Bridgewater and Tampa Bay will go Brett Hundley (plays exactly like Freeman).

            9 teams are going to be shopping for a QB unless they get into the playoffs (except Vikings and Houston will be shopping unless they get a Super Bowl appearance).
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            • Skinsbaby
              SBR Sharp
              • 09-28-13
              • 316

              #7
              [QUOTE=DoYouNotGetIT;19806790]He has a shot with The Eagles too, I hope not coming from a Redskin fan!
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              • Skinsbaby
                SBR Sharp
                • 09-28-13
                • 316

                #8
                Hope Johnny doesn't go to Eagles....."coming from a Redskins fan"
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                • bubblebuttluv
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-13-12
                  • 5179

                  #9
                  Manziel will do nothing in the league.

                  Bridgewater reads the field like a black Peyton Manning. Bridgewater will really be something special in the NFL.
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                  • Vinnie Paz
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-27-12
                    • 12177

                    #10
                    My beef with teddy is he plays no half decent competetition whatsoever. Look at the teams this guys playing every week lol. At least johnny can say he plays some decent defenses.
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                    • SilverTongueFox
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-23-10
                      • 2338

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Vinnie Paz
                      My beef with teddy is he plays no half decent competetition whatsoever. Look at the teams this guys playing every week lol. At least johnny can say he plays some decent defenses.
                      Flacco & Rothlesberger have done okay.
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                      • SamDiamond
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 10-19-12
                        • 6107

                        #12
                        No idea where you're getting your information from, but every mock-- and I mean every mock----

                        Has Bridgewater and Boyd ahead of Manziel.

                        Manziel has moved into the first round--- but his position is after the other two.
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                        • SamDiamond
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-19-12
                          • 6107

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DoYouNotGetIT
                          Brett Hundley still making the same mistakes as last year.
                          Tajh Boyd is not a good passer. Have no clue how anyone says he is a NFL pro QB.
                          Teddy Bridgewater last year had a problem facing good defenses.
                          Marcus Mariota a system QB could be great, but have a feeling he will be mediocre in the NFL.
                          Johnny Football great passer, plays great in big moments, plays better under pressure, and great scramble QB.

                          Also can see Kevin Hogan being a great pro and won't be surprised if he goes in the first round.

                          I had UCLA by the way.

                          FYI By great I mean Hall of Fame
                          Did you miss the Sugar Bowl?

                          Bridgewater threw for 266 yards against Florida----- almost 100 yards more than Manziel threw for against the Gators.
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                          • Vinnie Paz
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-27-12
                            • 12177

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SilverTongueFox
                            Flacco & Rothlesberger have done okay.
                            that's true but I think it'll still cost him early on(in his NFL career). Time will tell I guess.
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                            • nvrlose37
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-01-12
                              • 2730

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SamDiamond
                              Did you miss the Sugar Bowl?

                              Bridgewater threw for 266 yards against Florida----- almost 100 yards more than Manziel threw for against the Gators.
                              Ok lets look at Johnny Football's first game ever and use it to compare, thats smart.

                              But Johnny won't make it in the NFL, his scrambling ability will not hold up as D-lineman are too fast. He makes the slow college guys look silly but if he moves around like he does now, he will either throw INTs or get killed.
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                              • DoYouNotGetIT
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 09-25-13
                                • 529

                                #16
                                Originally posted by nvrlose37
                                Ok lets look at Johnny Football's first game ever and use it to compare, thats smart.

                                But Johnny won't make it in the NFL, his scrambling ability will not hold up as D-lineman are too fast. He makes the slow college guys look silly but if he moves around like he does now, he will either throw INTs or get killed.
                                I don't believe any QB who's main threat is the run will never be a HOF player in the NFL. Johnny Manziel can pass the ball very well.
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                                • DoYouNotGetIT
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 09-25-13
                                  • 529

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by SamDiamond
                                  No idea where you're getting your information from, but every mock-- and I mean every mock----

                                  Has Bridgewater and Boyd ahead of Manziel.

                                  Manziel has moved into the first round--- but his position is after the other two.
                                  I said that Manziel has moved into the first round. I never said he was ahead of Bridgewater in fact I said that the Jags (probably the first pick in the draft) will draft Bridgewater. Also said Tampa Bay would pick Brett Hundley if Bridgewater is gone. Browns will not be the first pick in the draft unless they lose the rest of the NFL season and beat the Jags/TB in a tiebreaker for the first round pick Browns also have the Colts first round pick.

                                  Watched enough Clemson to see Tajh Boyd is not a good passer. NFL passing windows are smaller and the running ability is reduced a lot by the speed of the defensive players which with Tajh Boyd's passing ability isn't going to workout.

                                  Bridgewater's had problems with Syracuse, Connecticut (had a good defense and all-time awful offense), and Rutgers. He played good vs. Cincinnati and destroyed Florida, but I don't want a QB who is not routinely better than good defenses as the first pick in the NFL draft.
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                                  • Louisvillekid1
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 10-17-07
                                    • 52143

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DoYouNotGetIT
                                    Brett Hundley still making the same mistakes as last year.
                                    Tajh Boyd is not a good passer. Have no clue how anyone says he is a NFL pro QB.
                                    Teddy Bridgewater last year had a problem facing good defenses.
                                    Marcus Mariota a system QB could be great, but have a feeling he will be mediocre in the NFL.
                                    Johnny Football great passer, plays great in big moments, plays better under pressure, and great scramble QB.

                                    Also can see Kevin Hogan being a great pro and won't be surprised if he goes in the first round.

                                    I had UCLA by the way.

                                    FYI By great I mean Hall of Fame
                                    Florida had the best defense in the country, and he dominated them...

                                    Beat Rutgers who had top 5 defense with one arm and one leg
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                                    • Louisvillekid1
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-17-07
                                      • 52143

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DoYouNotGetIT
                                      He has a shot with The Eagles too, because it will be between Johnny Football and Mariota. I just think Boyd will fall out of the first round. He also has a shot with Houston Texans. I don't think they will pass up on a home town kid, because of having David Carr and Matt Schwab. Cardinals, Titans, Rams and Vikings who knows what they will do.

                                      Jags will take Bridgewater and Tampa Bay will go Brett Hundley (plays exactly like Freeman).

                                      9 teams are going to be shopping for a QB unless they get into the playoffs (except Vikings and Houston will be shopping unless they get a Super Bowl appearance).
                                      Common pal
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                                      • skeet96707
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 09-23-13
                                        • 26

                                        #20
                                        Mariota > Freeman

                                        How many of you had Kaepernick as a starter in the NFL and killing it last season? After seeing him up close and tear my beloved Hawaii warriors apart for years, I knew he would be good to go in the NFL. Mariota has all the intangibles plus a very high football IQ. We are not talking Dennis Dixon here. Coupling Mariota with a great head coach could reap instant success in the NFL.
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                                        • DoYouNotGetIT
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 09-25-13
                                          • 529

                                          #21
                                          More likely that most (3 out of 5) of these QBs will be busts than NFL Franchise QBs. You have Manziel, Boyd, Bridgewater, Mariota, and Hundley who are currently in the first round with most mock drafts. At least one will be a bust and probably 3 will be busts.
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                                          • Vinnie Paz
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-27-12
                                            • 12177

                                            #22
                                            Damn teddy is pretty fukkin ggood as a prospect. Surveys the field well and goes through his progressions. Has an NFL arm with NFL accuracy. Good presence inside the pocket and has excellent form/throwing motion. Regardless, I believe NFL defenses will cause him some fits early on. I realize he played fla well but that was 1 game with plenty prep time. Still can't ignore level of competition he has and is playing, IMO.

                                            That being said, I think he is the real deal and will pan out in the NFL. He has the tools and by far the most pro ready of the other potential first rd QBs.
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                                            • bubblebuttluv
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 11-13-12
                                              • 5179

                                              #23
                                              Like I said, Teddy Bridgewater is "The Black Peyton Manning". Bridgewater will be a star in the NFL.
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                                              • wildcorndog
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                                                • 08-30-10
                                                • 1456

                                                #24
                                                There are several in the SEC that have a chance. Can't speak for the rest of the garabage conferences
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                                                • DoYouNotGetIT
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 09-25-13
                                                  • 529

                                                  #25
                                                  Pretty sure Brownwater proved my point that, "Teddy Bridgewater last year had a problem facing good defenses" and "Bridgewater's had problems with Syracuse, Connecticut (had a good defense and all-time awful offense), and Rutgers. He played good vs. Cincinnati and destroyed Florida, but I don't want a QB who is not routinely better than good defenses as the first pick in the NFL draft.".

                                                  Brownwater couldn't hit open receivers all night. If Rutgers had a good QB, Rutgers would have won that game. If I was a GM I would only take Manziel or Mariota in the first round.
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                                                  • getthekook
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 09-24-13
                                                    • 94

                                                    #26
                                                    watch the throw Stevin Morris made to Stacey Coley vs GT..
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                                                    • DoYouNotGetIT
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 09-25-13
                                                      • 529

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by DoYouNotGetIT
                                                      Tajh Boyd is not a good passer. Have no clue how anyone says he is a NFL pro QB.
                                                      This thread is looking spot on as the days go on.
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                                                      • Rangers901
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                                                        • 01-09-12
                                                        • 363

                                                        #28
                                                        Manziel has no chance in the NFL. He's extremely lucky and those desperation hail Mary's he always chucks up just won't cut it. Don't get me wrong, he's a great athlete, but not a great pro QB. As an Eagles fan, I hope to god we don't draft him, unless it's in the 4th round.
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                                                        • DoYouNotGetIT
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                                                          • 09-25-13
                                                          • 529

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Rangers901
                                                          Manziel has no chance in the NFL. He's extremely lucky and those desperation hail Mary's he always chucks up just won't cut it. Don't get me wrong, he's a great athlete, but not a great pro QB. As an Eagles fan, I hope to god we don't draft him, unless it's in the 4th round.
                                                          You're telling me this when I already predicted all this over a week ago. And you can see on how almost every poster disagreed with me. Now more and more people are agreeing with me. Johnny Football played against a pro defense in Alabama and was throwing all over them. Johnny Football will be a Hall of Famer or win a Super Bowl with the team he is drafted by. (Someone removed my post about Steve McNair I guess because he is died. I said a first round pick is only worth it if they are a Hall of Famer or they win a Super Bowl with the team they were drafted by.)
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                                                          • El_Zilcho
                                                            SBR Hustler
                                                            • 10-07-13
                                                            • 74

                                                            #30
                                                            People who casually watch Manziel are going to dock him on his arm and...I don't know....they just don't like him. He is very, very accurate. He's better than he was last, much more comfortable in the pocket. He's only going to get better. I've been following this kid since high school, and he's one of the best I've ever seen.
                                                            People said the same stuff about Kobe when he was coming out of high school, that he couldn't compete, and yeah he didn't have a great rookie year, but he is one of the all time great competitors.
                                                            Manziel is on that level. He wants to win more than anyone on that field. And he's good enough to do it. The NFL is changing, and in favor for QBs like Manziel.

                                                            People always try to make comparisons and the most apt I've seen is Joe Namath before he hurt his knee in college.
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                                                            • DoYouNotGetIT
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 09-25-13
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                                                              #31
                                                              In case anyone wants to come back here when Texas A&M loses today, because of their defense I don't want to hear I told you so. YES I have Mississippi +6.5.
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                                                              • DoYouNotGetIT
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 09-25-13
                                                                • 529

                                                                #32
                                                                Only thing that can make my original post seem anymore correct would be if Brett Hundley blows this Cal Game. I will laugh if Tahj Boyd drops out of the first round. I really should be a NFL or NBA GM.

                                                                Predicted Durant would be better than Lebron when it was Oden or Durant. Would have been right to chose Durant and was way wrong about Durant going to be better than Lebron. OKC should have traded Westbrook for Paul or Rondo when they had the chance. My BULLS should have traded Deng for the Golden State pick if Andre Drummond was available. NFL I am just as good. NFL I could go year by year with pro bowl picks. I either need to care about something in my life beside sports or my talent is going to go to waste. Probably both.
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                                                                • 15805
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                                                                  • 06-10-12
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by DoYouNotGetIT
                                                                  Pretty sure Brownwater proved my point that, "Teddy Bridgewater last year had a problem facing good defenses" and "Bridgewater's had problems with Syracuse, Connecticut (had a good defense and all-time awful offense), and Rutgers. He played good vs. Cincinnati and destroyed Florida, but I don't want a QB who is not routinely better than good defenses as the first pick in the NFL draft.".

                                                                  Brownwater couldn't hit open receivers all night. If Rutgers had a good QB, Rutgers would have won that game. If I was a GM I would only take Manziel or Mariota in the first round.

                                                                  I see absolutely nothing in Bridgewater to rave about. Manziel is by far the best college QB, whether his talents translate to the .NFL who knows. They'll both be taken in the 1st round. I guess there have been worse QB's taken in the 1st than Bridgewater but he seems like a poor choice. For those who want to tout a black QB's Winston of Florida State is way better, when his time comes he'll fit in the NFL
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