Virginia Tech's Chances Against Alabama August 31st?

BigdaddyQH · 07-03-13, 01:27 PM

Straight up? No way. Getting 18 points? Absolutely. Va. Tech has a very good defense. They rank 4th overall in total defense in manyprojections. This means a return to "Beamer Ball" and that means a grind it out type of offense led by an offensive line that returns 3 starters from last year. This means a possible low scoring game. With a trip to A&M staring 'Bama in the face two weeks after this game, Saban will take no risks. This is one of those "let's win and get off the field" type of games. If you are giving more than 17 points, you are really taking an unnecessary risk here. 'Bama is way over-rated in the GOY's current odds. I faded them at home against LSU (Took LSU +11.5)

daneblazer · 07-03-13, 01:31 PM

Don't 2 TD underdogs win like 1 out of 6 times?

They have lots of seniors...Logan Thomas was widely considered a stud until last year...and they're always good on special teams.

Wouldn't say "slim and none" but would be surprising. Would it be more surprising if VT or Ole Miss beat Alabama?

BigdaddyQH · 07-03-13, 01:42 PM

Probably Va. Tech because that kills the SEC as being the alleged #1 Conference. With the problems Georgia is having, and UGA goint to Clemson that very same weekend, the teams favored to win the two SEC Divisions going down would destroy the SEC Myth. Clemson took out two SEC Schools last season. For Va. Tech to take out #1 Alabama, it would destroy the illusion that SEC fans are living. It will not happen, but if it did happen...

Fredvic247 · 07-03-13, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

Straight up? No way. Getting 18 points? Absolutely. Va. Tech has a very good defense. They rank 4th overall in total defense in manyprojections. This means a return to "Beamer Ball" and that means a grind it out type of offense led by an offensive line that returns 3 starters from last year. This means a possible low scoring game. With a trip to A&M staring 'Bama in the face two weeks after this game, Saban will take no risks. This is one of those "let's win and get off the field" type of games. If you are giving more than 17 points, you are really taking an unnecessary risk here. 'Bama is way over-rated in the GOY's current odds. I faded them at home against LSU (Took LSU +11.5)

I honestly think Va Tech's defense may be good enough to slow Bama down, but I just dunno if Logan Thomas can move the football....Va TEch is going to be ugly on offense once again....

Theyre saying this may be the best Va Tech defense in the last decade, well theyre gonna need it if they wanna slow bama down, cuz this is probably Nick Sabans best team at Bama

BigdaddyQH · 07-03-13, 06:28 PM

That's why I am looking for the return of "Beamer Ball". With a solid defense, very good special teams, and their usual lackluster offense, Beamer's only hope is to use the clock, create a turnover or a special teams play, and play very tough D. 18 points is too many if he succeeds in doing that.

M.W. · 07-03-13, 06:50 PM

This one looks like a 31-0 type of game.

WorkHorse · 07-03-13, 07:40 PM

Men, this game AIN'T going to be close. I love Frank Beamer and what he has accomplished at VT but this is not the year after a lack-luster season to turn things around by starting off with Alabama. Just not enough manpower or good enough athletes...which ever you want to choose.

Sidenote: A few years back...Alabama was interested in Beamer as there head coach. I know UA approached him but don't know if an offer was ever made. I do know this, the Bama coaching staff has a lot of respect for how VT plays defense.

Fredvic247 · 07-04-13, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by WorkHorse

Men, this game AIN'T going to be close. I love Frank Beamer and what he has accomplished at VT but this is not the year after a lack-luster season to turn things around by starting off with Alabama. Just not enough manpower or good enough athletes...which ever you want to choose.

Sidenote: A few years back...Alabama was interested in Beamer as there head coach. I know UA approached him but don't know if an offer was ever made. I do know this, the Bama coaching staff has a lot of respect for how VT plays defense.

Va Tech, over the years, has played hard core defense and been very physical. The last few they've fell off....

BigdaddyQH · 07-04-13, 11:28 AM

Va. Tech is 0-6 ATS in their first lined game of the season in the past 6 seasons. Alabama is 6-0 ATS during the same time period. A great reason to pass on this game. There will be lots of times to make money fading 'Bama this season. Right now, the 11.5 vs LSU is one that comes to mind. The winner of that game has won by 9 or less points 6 years in a row. That is a great fade wager. Va. Tech is not.

eeezzzz · 07-05-13, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

Straight up? No way. Getting 18 points? Absolutely. Va. Tech has a very good defense. They rank 4th overall in total defense in manyprojections. This means a return to "Beamer Ball" and that means a grind it out type of offense led by an offensive line that returns 3 starters from last year. This means a possible low scoring game. With a trip to A&M staring 'Bama in the face two weeks after this game, Saban will take no risks. This is one of those "let's win and get off the field" type of games. If you are giving more than 17 points, you are really taking an unnecessary risk here. 'Bama is way over-rated in the GOY's current odds. I faded them at home against LSU (Took LSU +11.5)

If Vt won you would *** all over yourself.... Am i right?

BigdaddyQH · 07-06-13, 01:56 PM

Not at all. Like I said, I think Va. Tech covers. It matters not if they win or not. You do not get a bonus if they win. All I am saying is that Bama -18.5 is a bad wager. Now since you think you know so mucn (and really know so little), let's make a little wager right now. LSU is +11.5 against 'Bama. I will take LSU +11.5 for all of you 433 SBR points. Yes or no? I wnat to see how fast you run out of here with some lame excuse.

bamaatlsu · 07-07-13, 10:06 AM

Would take some balls to take bama minus those points against LSU. Those games are usually tight.

BigdaddyQH · 07-07-13, 11:43 AM

Exactly my point. I amnot saying that 'Bama loses the game. All I am saying is that 11.5 points is way too much to give. IMO, anything over 6.5 is too much to give.

eeezzzz · 07-07-13, 08:09 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

Not at all. Like I said, I think Va. Tech covers. It matters not if they win or not. You do not get a bonus if they win. All I am saying is that Bama -18.5 is a bad wager. Now since you think you know so mucn (and really know so little), let's make a little wager right now. LSU is +11.5 against 'Bama. I will take LSU +11.5 for all of you 433 SBR points. Yes or no? I wnat to see how fast you run out of here with some lame excuse.

That's crazy talk 11.5 is ridiculous

BigdaddyQH · 07-08-13, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by eeezzzz

That's crazy talk 11.5 is ridiculous

You may think that it is crazy, but neither you, nor I make the line. It is our job to take advantage of lines like this. If you cannot wager against Alabama, then you are a homer, unless you simply never wager any of their games. We both know that this is not the truth. Had you wagered on 'Bama in every game they played last season, you would have broke even. They were 7-6 ATS and that is not a winner, when you figure in the vig. This is why homers are easy pickens for pro's.

bamaatlsu · 07-08-13, 01:12 PM

Meh, I'm a homer, but I'll still bet against Bama at times.

I took them at the opening line of -17.5 against VT. I figured the line would jump to 20, but it hasn't happened yet. VT doesn't impress me on offense. LT looked completely lost at times last year, and I'm not sure bringing in Loeffler is going to be the answer. Their defense was improved over the last half of the season, but I don't think they'll be able to keep Bama under 24 pts. I think VT's O will put their D in some bad spots during this game. Bama should be able to shut down the running game, and then that D will suffocate you like a python. This one could definitely come down to a cheap score at the end. I don't think anyone would be surprised if Beamerball keeps it close, but I never really thought last year's VT team played 'Beamerball' like those teams from 10-15 years ago.

BigdaddyQH · 07-08-13, 02:05 PM

Let us not forget Special Teams play. This is an area that Va. Tech excels in. To me Va. Tech's Special Teams could be worth 3-7 points in this game, and that is all they may need to cover. Remember, we are talking field position as well as possible turnovers.