Texas -19 @ Kansas anyone?

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  • Murray Rothbard
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-22-12
    • 698

    #1
    Texas -19 @ Kansas anyone?
    Just came across this game and superficially this line seems lower than expected. Does anyone else feel like Texas should be a bigger favorite possibly 21+ pts? I've seen Kansas play on two occasions against K-State and Oklahoma (admittedly i didn't watch the whole games on both occasions) and while they can string together 1 or 2 good drives, there defense is just horrendous and lets up a lot of big plays and points.

    According to teamrankings.com Texas is ranked 11th in redzone scoring attempts per game and ranked 6th in redzone scores per game (TD/FG). This doesn't bode well for a Kansas team who is ranked 115th in the country in opponents redzone scoring attempts per game and 85th in opponents rezone scores per game (TD/FG).

    I don't know about you guys but I see Texas covering easily here. What say you guys? Am I missing something or does the spread seem rather low to you guys as well?
  • rainmaker82
    SBR Sharp
    • 11-16-10
    • 379

    #2
    I agree with you Murray. I just don't see how Texas doesn't blow Kansas away. I think Texas wins this game something like 45-10.
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    • rainmaker82
      SBR Sharp
      • 11-16-10
      • 379

      #3
      To be honest with you I love the first half Texas -12 also. I'm thinking about adding that to my plays.
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      • Murray Rothbard
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 10-22-12
        • 698

        #4
        Originally posted by rainmaker82
        To be honest with you I love the first half Texas -12 also. I'm thinking about adding that to my plays.
        Good observation rainmaker. I haven't looked at the halves or O/U's yet for this game but I really see Texas scoring close to 60 just like K-State and OU did. I predict a 55-10 route when the clock hits 0:00 in the 4th. BOL rainmaker!
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        • gojetsgomoxies
          SBR MVP
          • 09-04-12
          • 4222

          #5
          i liked kansas earlier in the season (they should have been ahead of KSU at halftime. obv 2nd half was a disaster) but now i think it's a gigantic mess. so i'd play against generally.

          i think i saw dayne christ didn't play QB last game. injury or benched?
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          • rainmaker82
            SBR Sharp
            • 11-16-10
            • 379

            #6
            Thank you sir!! I would expect Ash to have a big day against that secondary. OU didn't run the ball too well, but Kansas was making OU beat them through the Air, which they did quite easily. BOL on your picks!!
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            • rainmaker82
              SBR Sharp
              • 11-16-10
              • 379

              #7
              Originally posted by gojetsgomoxies
              i liked kansas earlier in the season (they should have been ahead of KSU at halftime. obv 2nd half was a disaster) but now i think it's a gigantic mess. so i'd play against generally.

              i think i saw dayne christ didn't play QB last game. injury or benched?
              Yeah i think the 2nd half of that K-State game is who Kansas really is. Crist only played a handful of snaps. I think Weis is getting the younger kids some game experience because he knows this season is a wash. I just don't think Kansas has the athletes to keep up with Texas.
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              • ImmortalKrop
                SBR High Roller
                • 12-05-10
                • 127

                #8
                Careful, Texas defense is awful. Could be a scummy back door cover.
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                • Murray Rothbard
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-22-12
                  • 698

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ImmortalKrop
                  Careful, Texas defense is awful. Could be a scummy back door cover.
                  Texas defense isn't good but have you seen the Kansas O? They're really bad. No way this turns into a shoot out, Kansas simply doesn't have the talent to keep up even with a below average Texans D.
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                  • BEARDOWNwildcats
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 10-11-12
                    • 64

                    #10
                    anyone care to explain the line movement on this? I dont trust laying 20 pts with a D like the longhorns.
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                    • Murray Rothbard
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 10-22-12
                      • 698

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BEARDOWNwildcats
                      anyone care to explain the line movement on this? I dont trust laying 20 pts with a D like the longhorns.
                      Good question. Now that I looked at the spread I printed out on Monday it seems as the opening spread (at least at my book) was 21.5 and now it's moved down to 19. Could this be an example of the public influencing the line downward? some input would be nice.
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                      • BEARDOWNwildcats
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 10-11-12
                        • 64

                        #12
                        Clearly not the public I got 80% on Texas, and line went down 1.5...
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                        • rofacapper
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 10-22-10
                          • 119

                          #13
                          Generally not a good idea to lay 19.5 on the road with a bad defense.
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                          • Murray Rothbard
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 10-22-12
                            • 698

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rofacapper
                            Generally not a good idea to lay 19.5 on the road with a bad defense.
                            I totally I agree but generally you don't see an offense as impotent as Kansas offense is.
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                            • Murray Rothbard
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 10-22-12
                              • 698

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BEARDOWNwildcats
                              Clearly not the public I got 80% on Texas, and line went down 1.5...
                              Interesting. I wonder whats up then?
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                              • CBASS
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-22-10
                                • 2613

                                #16
                                I'm on Kansas +21.5

                                All value is lost @ +19


                                Gl in whatever you decide.
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                                • ShogunRua
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-23-09
                                  • 4668

                                  #17
                                  Texas defense is bad.
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                                  • Murray Rothbard
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 10-22-12
                                    • 698

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by CBASS
                                    I'm on Kansas +21.5

                                    All value is lost @ +19

                                    Gl in whatever you decide.
                                    I'm fairly new to this stuff so I'm still trying to figure out when a team has value and when it doesn't but do value plays generally mean plays that incorporate the ML and not spreads? Either way I like Texas at -19 and I'll probably wait until game time to pull the trigger to see if the line goes down even further for insurance.
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                                    • Murray Rothbard
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 10-22-12
                                      • 698

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ShogunRua
                                      Texas defense is bad.
                                      People keep saying that and I agree but as bad as the Texans D is the Kansas O is much much worse IMO. I see this game playing out similar to the K-State OU games where Kansas got rolled on after half time.
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                                      • Murray Rothbard
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 10-22-12
                                        • 698

                                        #20
                                        Ended up taking them at -18. BOL to anyone else who took them. Get em Horns!
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                                        • pokeraddict2012
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 10-25-12
                                          • 312

                                          #21
                                          doesnt look good in the first quater, i dont think they keep up in the 2nd half anyway, texas blow them out by 4+ td in 2nd half
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                                          • dymd3z
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-01-12
                                            • 1923

                                            #22
                                            Pounded Texas.... get that free money !
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                                            • pokeraddict2012
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 10-25-12
                                              • 312

                                              #23
                                              kansas defense looks solid right now
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                                              • Murray Rothbard
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 10-22-12
                                                • 698

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by pokeraddict2012
                                                kansas defense looks solid right now
                                                They always do in the first half but hopefully they don't buck the trend and get blown out 2nd half.
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                                                • pokeraddict2012
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 10-25-12
                                                  • 312

                                                  #25
                                                  texas defense is so bad its unreal!
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                                                  • MasterP10
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 08-19-10
                                                    • 1513

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by dymd3z
                                                    Pounded Texas.... get that free money !
                                                    No such thing as free money. I put in 80 hrs a week and grind out a small profit. "free money" I wish it was that easy.

                                                    On kansas +22.5
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                                                    • Murray Rothbard
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 10-22-12
                                                      • 698

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by pokeraddict2012
                                                      texas defense is so bad its unreal!
                                                      Can't be worse than that Nevada defense last night. Now that was hard to watch.
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                                                      • mosswoods21
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 10-25-12
                                                        • 307

                                                        #28
                                                        rock chalk jayhawk
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                                                        • Vortexx00
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 06-18-09
                                                          • 1392

                                                          #29
                                                          Texas is gong to lose this game...they can't stop the run...
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                                                          • Urbanwildlife
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 09-06-11
                                                            • 5958

                                                            #30
                                                            Texas is fricking sad, as we are talking about a fat asss Charlie Weis Kansas team here. It is an embarrassment so far to the State Of Texas. The good thing is, there is a lot more football to be played! Texas just needs to get there chit together sooner rather than later.

                                                            Come on Murray, I am pulling for ya!
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                                                            • hougigo
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 06-01-12
                                                              • 3665

                                                              #31
                                                              Looking good.....
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                                                              • testertips
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-06-09
                                                                • 1468

                                                                #32
                                                                how is texas ranked?
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                                                                • bane
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 09-14-12
                                                                  • 630

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I teased Kansas to 34 beginning of the week. Mostly, I got confused and intended to cap the Kansas St /Texas Tech game.

                                                                  Yep. I'm *that* new.

                                                                  So..... as long as Kansas loses by 33. I'm good. First half has been surprising though.
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                                                                  • mosswoods21
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 10-25-12
                                                                    • 307

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Mack Brown should give half of his coaching salary to Vince Young. He would of been fired by now if it wasnt for Vince.
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                                                                    • pokeraddict2012
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 10-25-12
                                                                      • 312

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by bane
                                                                      I teased Kansas to 34 beginning of the week. Mostly, I got confused and intended to cap the Kansas St /Texas Tech game.

                                                                      Yep. I'm *that* new.

                                                                      So..... as long as Kansas loses by 33. I'm good. First half has been surprising though.
                                                                      doesnt even look like they are going to lose by 20 by the way texas defense is looking
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