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  • ShivaBowl
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 03-09-10
    • 5133

    #1
    Advanced System Strategies CFB & NFL
    I'm running a thread in NFL betting, along with Tommygunn and Degenregen.
    But I am going to keep this thread going throughout the year and I will keep you guys up to date.
    Here is the link to it


    Also, please check on it, for the NFL plays.
    If you have any questions or comments, please try to post them in NFL betting.

    Thank you
  • ShivaBowl
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 03-09-10
    • 5133

    #2
    Today’s A/I Plays
    1 Unit
    Short: Arizona State
    Oct 18 9:00 PM ET Oregon Ducks –8 –105


    Working on something new…tracking it.
    1 Unit
    Oregon v Arizona State
    Game Total UNDER 69½ -130
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    • ShivaBowl
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 03-09-10
      • 5133

      #3
      I dropped last years thread and I just dont feel right about abandoning the CFB forum altogether.
      Thanks
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      • Romanov
        SBR MVP
        • 10-08-10
        • 4137

        #4
        On the under as well Shiva. BOL
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        • Degenregen
          SBR Sharp
          • 10-15-12
          • 349

          #5
          Thanks for your hard work ShivaBowl! Let me know if I can help with anything else.

          Tracking filter: Play under when AI picks a moderate dog. Week 8:
          All unders always need to be played with > ½ point.
          We don't want to push so pay up to -130.

          AFAIK there's no record for this filter this season yet. So play at your own peril.
          I am going 0.5 units, but maybe ShivaBowl has something to say about this. Stay tuned.

          Middle Tennessee @ Mississippi State
          Middle Tennessee If > + 13
          Current Total @ 56.5 (The half point is always included for tracking purposes)

          New Mexico State @ Utah State
          New Mexico State If > +17.5
          Current Total @ 57

          Central Florida @ Memphis
          Memphis If > 18
          Current Total @ 50.5

          Wyoming @ Fresno State
          Wyoming if > 15
          Current Total @ 64

          Minnesota @ Wisconsin
          Minnesota if > 4.1
          Current Total @ 45.5

          Purdue @ Ohio State
          Purdue if > 11.7
          Current Total @ 62.5

          Tulane @ Texas El Paso
          Tulane if > 9.6
          Current Total @ 50.5
          Last edited by Degenregen; 10-18-12, 01:18 PM.
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          • ShivaBowl
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 03-09-10
            • 5133

            #6
            Originally posted by Degenregen
            Thanks for your hard work ShivaBowl! Let me know if I can help with anything else.
            Yes 1/2 units are fine for right now, whatever to Win 50.00
            FYI: Believe it or not if you follow ST the only play today was Detroit because you cannot wager on a team that has lost two in a row.
            thanks for your help. good luck
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            • ShivaBowl
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 03-09-10
              • 5133

              #7
              Originally posted by Romanov
              On the under as well Shiva. BOL
              Hey Roma,
              It looks like my book topped out Earlier today at 70 now we are at 68 so things are looking good
              BOL
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              • mbcoutinho
                SBR High Roller
                • 09-28-11
                • 181

                #8
                Originally posted by Degenregen
                Middle Tennessee @ Mississippi State
                Middle Tennessee If > + 13
                Current Total @ 56.5 (The half point is always included for tracking purposes)
                So, are we supposed to play Middle Tennessee if the lines jumps to +14 (...)?
                Are all those totals to be played as a under?
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                • Degenregen
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 10-15-12
                  • 349

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mbcoutinho
                  So, are we supposed to play Middle Tennessee if the lines jumps to +14 (...)?
                  Are all those totals to be played as a under?
                  The "Middle Tennessee If > +13" refers to the amount of points that need to be given in order to qualify as an AI underdog. In addition to this we're looking for lines in the 15-20 range only (For now.) on game day.

                  The system is explained in ShivaBowls link from the OP on page 6 IIRC.

                  I will update the games again later. Some caution on some of the plays:

                  ________________________________________ ____________

                  New Mexico State @ Utah State is no good, the line was too high in the first place. So NP (No play). The DIFF is quite even though so we'll monitor this. Line is @ 31.

                  Central Florida is a little high as well. -22 with a total of 50 maybe a little dangerous but we'll monitor this. I already bet on this. This looks like a NP though.
                  ________________________________________ ____________

                  These games look like they will be the plays tomorrow, will do another update before game time.
                  (Total numbers are raw. I.E. no half point incorporated. Always buy half a point.)

                  Middle Tennessee looks like it will be a play. Line @ 19. Total @ 56.

                  Wyoming @ Fresno State looking like it will be a play. Line @ 16.5. Total @ 62.5, trendling <. Use your own judgement on the lines.

                  Minnesota @ Wisconsin is looking to be a play. Line @ 17. Total @ 45.5, trending >.

                  Purdue @ Ohio looking like a play. Line @ 18.5 Total @ 62.

                  Tulane @ El Paso: Line @ 16.5. Total @ 52, trending >.

                  ________________________________________ _

                  Going to add some games to track. Most of these don't look like they will be plays. This is just to help me track.

                  Brigham Young @ Notre Dame
                  Line is @ 13.5, AI qualifies @ > 10. Ultimately, it is a play if 15-20. Total @ 40.5.

                  New Mexico @ Air Force, AI underdog qualifies @ 11.5. Line is @ 11, total @ 57. But under should be played only if line is at 15-20.
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                  • hunter8720
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 09-15-09
                    • 98

                    #10
                    nice work shiva
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                    • Degenregen
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 10-15-12
                      • 349

                      #11
                      All of the plays that I am posting are unders. I am hoping Shiva and Tommy can get to the other plays we are used to.

                      So far these are the games that fit the filter that Shiva taught us:
                      0.5 Unit plays. Remember to buy half a point.

                      Important Note: All of the lines for these games need to fit the 15-20 range 10 minutes before the game in order to qualify as plays. Purdue @ Ohio needs to be in the 17-20 range.

                      GAME LINE (10/19, Game Day) TOTAL (10/19, Game Day)
                      Middle Tennessee @ Mississippi ST 19, 17.5 56, 56
                      Wyoming @ Fresno State 16.5, 16.5 62.5, 62
                      Minnesota @ Wisconsin 17, 16 45.5, 45
                      Purdue @ Ohio 18.5, 18 62, 61.5
                      Tulane @ El Paso 16.5, 16.5 52, 52.5
                      BOL!
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                      • ShivaBowl
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 03-09-10
                        • 5133

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hunter8720
                        nice work shiva
                        Thanks, BOL Today
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                        • ShivaBowl
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 03-09-10
                          • 5133

                          #13
                          A/I plays went 1-0 Thursday +100.00
                          1 Unit
                          Oct 18 9:00 PM ET Oregon Ducks–8 –105 WIN


                          A/I Under play went 1-0 Thursday +100.00
                          1 Unit
                          Oregon v Arizona State
                          Total UNDER 69½ -130 WIN
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                          • ShivaBowl
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 03-09-10
                            • 5133

                            #14
                            College Football Artificial Intelligence
                            Team Projected Points for 10/20/2012 (Week 8)
                            1.5 Unit Plays

                            Updated
                            A/I Over the total plays
                            Never lay a 1/2-point, buy it down.
                            Plays based on early lines.

                            12:00 PM ET Virginia Tech @ Clemson 62
                            12:00 PM ET LSU @ Texas A&M 53
                            3:30 PM ET North Carolina State @ Maryland 45

                            7:00 PM ET Idaho @ Louisiana 72.5
                            7:00 PM ET Marshall @ Southern Miss 64.5
                            8:00 PM ET Baylor @ Texas 80

                            A/I Under the total plays
                            1 Unit
                            Always buy a ½ point.
                            Plays based on early lines.
                            3:30 PM ET South Carolina @ Florida 41
                            3:30 PM ET Indiana @ Navy 61.5
                            3:30 PM ET Brigham Young @ Notre Dame 40.5

                            A/I Plays
                            1/2 Unit
                            Never lay a 1/2-point on a favored.
                            Always buy a 1/2-point on a dog.
                            Never play the M/L on a dog, take the points.
                            Always play the M/L on a favored up to –150
                            Plays based on early lines.

                            12:00 PM ET LSU –3.5
                            3:30 PM ET Central Michigan +3
                            3:30 PM ET Navy -145
                            3:30 PM ET Florida –3.5
                            No Play If FLA < -3
                            3:30 PM ET Notre Dame –13
                            3:30 PM ET North Carolina State –3.5
                            3:30 PM ET South Florida +5.5
                            7:00 PM ET Southern Miss -4
                            8:00 PM ET Texas –8
                            10:00 PM ET Washington +7.5
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                            • Romanov
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-08-10
                              • 4137

                              #15
                              Shiva, thanks for the plays, but are your overs still as strong as their normal 2.5 unit counterparts? I see you've decreased them to 1.5 units. Is that because you are adding 1 unit plays on unders? Have you backtested the under plays? JW, i know it is saturday morning and we are all busy but if you get a chance...
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                              • ShivaBowl
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 03-09-10
                                • 5133

                                #16
                                Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                College Football Artificial Intelligence
                                Team Projected Points for 10/20/2012 (Week 8)
                                1.5 Unit Plays

                                Updated
                                A/I Over the total plays
                                Never lay a 1/2-point, buy it down.
                                Plays based on early lines.

                                12:00 PM ET Virginia Tech @ Clemson 62
                                12:00 PM ET LSU @ Texas A&M 53
                                3:30 PM ET North Carolina State @ Maryland 45

                                7:00 PM ET Idaho @ Louisiana 72.5
                                7:00 PM ET Marshall @ Southern Miss 64.5
                                8:00 PM ET Baylor @ Texas 80

                                A/I Under the total plays
                                1 Unit
                                Always buy a ½ point.
                                Plays based on early lines.
                                3:30 PM ET South Carolina @ Florida 41
                                3:30 PM ET Indiana @ Navy 61.5
                                3:30 PM ET Brigham Young @ Notre Dame 40.5

                                A/I Plays
                                1/2 Unit
                                Never lay a 1/2-point on a favored.
                                Always buy a 1/2-point on a dog.
                                Never play the M/L on a dog, take the points.
                                Always play the M/L on a favored up to –150
                                Plays based on early lines.

                                12:00 PM ET LSU –3.5
                                3:30 PM ET Central Michigan +3
                                3:30 PM ET Navy -145
                                3:30 PM ET Florida –3.5
                                No Play If FLA < -3
                                3:30 PM ET Notre Dame –13
                                3:30 PM ET North Carolina State –3.5
                                3:30 PM ET South Florida +5.5
                                7:00 PM ET Southern Miss -4
                                8:00 PM ET Texas –8
                                10:00 PM ET Washington +7.5
                                A/I Over the total plays
                                2 Unit Play
                                Updated
                                7:00 PM ET Kansas State @ West Virginia 71.5
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                                • bigelv
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 08-23-12
                                  • 79

                                  #17
                                  Shiva r ur under plays an addition to Degenregen plays?
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                                  • ShivaBowl
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 03-09-10
                                    • 5133

                                    #18
                                    Pro Football Artificial Intelligence
                                    Team Projected Points for 10/21/2012 (Week 7)
                                    2.5 Unit

                                    Cleveland Browns v Indianapolis Colts
                                    Game Total OVER 46 -110


                                    Green Bay Packers v St Louis Rams
                                    Game Total OVER 44 -120


                                    Dallas Cowboys v Carolina Panthers
                                    Game Total OVER 44 -120


                                    New Orleans Saints v Tampa Bay Buccaneers
                                    Game Total OVER 49 -110


                                    Pittsburgh Steelers v Cincinnati Bengals
                                    Game Total OVER 45 -110
                                    Last edited by ShivaBowl; 10-21-12, 09:41 AM.
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                                    • ShivaBowl
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 03-09-10
                                      • 5133

                                      #19
                                      AI Play Week 9 CFB
                                      1 Unit
                                      Arkansas State v UL Lafayette
                                      Arkansas State +3½ -110
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                                      • Gtownguy487
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 02-21-08
                                        • 539

                                        #20
                                        Shiva, It would be nice to have a running tally of your W/L on your daily posts...

                                        I cant find what your record is..
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                                        • ShivaBowl
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 03-09-10
                                          • 5133

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Gtownguy487
                                          Shiva, It would be nice to have a running tally of your W/L on your daily posts...

                                          I cant find what your record is..
                                          I'm so good I don't need to keep a record everything I post wins.
                                          Also, when you address Shiva, make sure you use please and thank you.
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                                          • Gtownguy487
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 02-21-08
                                            • 539

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                            I'm so good I don't need to keep a record everything I post wins.
                                            Also, when you address Shiva, make sure you use please and thank you.
                                            surely ur joking and not that arrogant...
                                            but then again this is the sbr forum so ive seen worse...
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                                            • ShivaBowl
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 03-09-10
                                              • 5133

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Gtownguy487
                                              surely ur joking and not that arrogant...
                                              but then again this is the sbr forum so ive seen worse...
                                              Look pal, from now on, address me as, Mr. Shiva
                                              thank you
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                                              • Gtownguy487
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 02-21-08
                                                • 539

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                                Look pal, from now on, address me as, Mr. Shiva
                                                thank you
                                                I teabag your chin Ms Shiva
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                                                • ShivaBowl
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 03-09-10
                                                  • 5133

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Gtownguy487
                                                  I teabag your chin Ms Shiva
                                                  Dear Mr. Shiva I respectfully request your records for college football and the NFL
                                                  The reason why I Need them is, when I am doing my girl she yells out your name....
                                                  Oh Siva oh Shiva You're the man on SBR
                                                  So please when you have the time Mr. Shiva, I need all Your records and secrets .
                                                  thank you and have a good night.
                                                  Respectfully yours Gtownguy487
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                                                  • hunter8720
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 09-15-09
                                                    • 98

                                                    #26
                                                    Keep posting winners shiva, please sir, lol, f that guy
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                                                    • Degenregen
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 10-15-12
                                                      • 349

                                                      #27
                                                      MR. SHIVA ain't ALWAYS SOBER but when he is, HE POSTS MOSTLY WINS PLEASE YOU CAN BE SURE OF THAT

                                                      THANK YOU
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                                                      • ShivaBowl
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 03-09-10
                                                        • 5133

                                                        #28
                                                        Thanks guy's Have you seen Gtownguy487 Girl? what a piece of ass.


                                                        I'm having one of those nights I just took the Indians for 860 God bless them (at the jack table) I'm on 95 south heading into the city for a happy ending Tuesday, I have a six pack on ice and I'm smoking a nice Vegas #5 I have Michael Jackson
                                                        on my custom-made Bose stereo system.
                                                        Nothing can stop me now!
                                                        life is good, take care
                                                        Go A St
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                                                        • Degenregen
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 10-15-12
                                                          • 349

                                                          #29
                                                          Hell yes! Shiva you are the man. A st is rolling ULL just like you are rolling down the 95 south. Take care bro. Hope the rest of your night is fabulous.
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                                                          • HoulihansTX
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 02-12-09
                                                            • 30566

                                                            #30
                                                            Winners win.
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                                                            • ShivaBowl
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 03-09-10
                                                              • 5133

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Gtownguy487
                                                              Shiva, It would be nice to have a running tally of your W/L on your daily posts...

                                                              I cant find what your record is..
                                                              When you have the time, come over to the dark side I have the W/L in that thread. LINK: http://forum.sbrforum.com/nfl-bettin...s-nfl-cfb.html
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                                                              • ShivaBowl
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 03-09-10
                                                                • 5133

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                Winners win.
                                                                TX: PT AND ST
                                                                Are on DET tonight.
                                                                Take Detroit W/Verlander over San Fran W/Zito NO PLAY if DET > -160
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                                                                • ShivaBowl
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 03-09-10
                                                                  • 5133

                                                                  #33
                                                                  A/I Plays Went 1-0 yesterday +$100.00
                                                                  A. St +3.5 WIN

                                                                  A/I Plays Week 9 CFB
                                                                  Oct 25 7:30 PM ET Clemson –
                                                                  Right now at –11.5 buy it down to 10
                                                                  Or hold on, trending <-
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                                                                  • Murray Rothbard
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 10-22-12
                                                                    • 698

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                                                    A/I Plays Week 9 CFB
                                                                    Oct 25 7:30 PM ET Clemson –
                                                                    Right now at –11.5 buy it down to 10
                                                                    Or hold on, trending <-
                                                                    Can you elaborate on this? I'm fairly new to betting and not sure I understand what you mean by "buy it down to 10 or hold on?"

                                                                    Btw, nice play last night. I should of listened!
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                                                                    • HoulihansTX
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 02-12-09
                                                                      • 30566

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Murray Rothbard
                                                                      Can you elaborate on this? I'm fairly new to betting and not sure I understand what you mean by "buy it down to 10 or hold on?"

                                                                      Btw, nice play last night. I should of listened!
                                                                      You can either the line down to -10,or wait for the line to fall to -10 naturally.

                                                                      My recommendation is just wait until about 30 minutes B4 gametime, and make your decision.
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