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  • Bbfromgpt
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-24-12
    • 6115

    #1
    Thoughts on Hawaii/Byu?
    BYU starting freshman QB Taysom Hill behind a very bad offensive line laying a ton of points. Hawaii is absolutely horrible, should be a stay away game but most of us will pick a side lol. Any angles here?
  • Bbfromgpt
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-24-12
    • 6115

    #2
    Looking at the under, not sure Hawaii scores much here
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    • theangryelf
      SBR Sharp
      • 09-09-11
      • 256

      #3
      Hawaii + the pts and I like the over on this one. Wish my book would let me parlay the 2 right now.
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      • Bbfromgpt
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-24-12
        • 6115

        #4
        Yea I locked in Hawaii this morning +28 with the local. Going to be ugly prob but hoping they can get 14 points. That should be enough lol to get the cover
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        • Degenerate Life
          SBR High Roller
          • 10-15-10
          • 227

          #5
          The resistible force(BYU's offense) vs the movable object(Hawaii's defense). Wouldnt play a side probally play under.
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          • infamousbacardi
            SBR MVP
            • 03-16-08
            • 4556

            #6
            This is a line where you look at it and have to look twice. Great friend of mine is big BYU fan and obviously that means he isn't a gambler. I asked him yesterday as a die-hard BYU fan what he thinks this line should be, he said, "I don't know, BYU -13 maybe?".

            Hard to imagine this BYU offense can beat anyone by 28 points....but that makes me think this line is begging for sharps to bet BYU and lay the points.

            After watching Nevada put up almost 70 on Hawaii last week...I'm actually leaning toward the OVER in this one. Nevada offense is at least 2x as good as BYU offense...but BYU is a different animal at home than on the road. I imagine the BYU D/ST will kick in a TD in this one as well.
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            • brigade125
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 07-03-11
              • 685

              #7
              taking the points... way to many points for a primetime game ..
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              • newbottles
                SBR Sharp
                • 06-22-12
                • 312

                #8
                Garbage game. No play. Plenty of better value tomorrow. Going out to metal show instead. BOL to all.
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                • groovybrandone
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 02-22-12
                  • 456

                  #9
                  hawaii gave to way too many points last week and dont know if theyre mentally/physically better this week. no play for me
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                  • Bbfromgpt
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-24-12
                    • 6115

                    #10
                    That Nevada O is head and shoulders above BYU. It's not even semi close. Hawaii sucks and yes this is a degenerate play haha. However, I see BYU running a ton tonight with a freshman QB. We will see what happens. I see a 31-13 game
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                    • bsutphi
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 08-12-10
                      • 183

                      #11
                      I love the over in this game. The only thing that worries me is the reverse line movement. Something like 80% of the bets are on the over but the O/U keeps going down.
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                      • pimike
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 03-23-08
                        • 37140

                        #12
                        You will like this Freshman QB. He actually is more versatile.

                        BYU -25 is the play.
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                        • tmgissy
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 08-13-10
                          • 505

                          #13
                          Over all day.
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                          • nvrlose37
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-01-12
                            • 2730

                            #14
                            Hawaii and the points. I thought BYU could do 2 TDs but that was before they took Riley Nelson out of the picture. I don't see them scoring that many in this one, even in Provo.
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                            • Bbfromgpt
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-24-12
                              • 6115

                              #15
                              He is pretty much a replica of the starter with the back injury. Watched them both play. The freshman has upside and hopefully for BYU doesn't turn it over as much, but they are very very similar. For me it's Hawaii or no play unless you wanna bet the o/u. Like I said if Hawaii can get 14 garbage points they cover easily.
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                              • Mike650i
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 09-20-10
                                • 78

                                #16
                                BYU offense isn't that great, but that's against a good defense like Boise State. This freshman QB can run well enough and the defense will give them good enough field position that they'll get 4 or 5 TDs. I see a score like 35-3. BYU and under for me.

                                But like a lot of others have said, it's a garbage game. I'm not some BYU/Hawaii maven so I'll keep the bet smallish.
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                                • Ralphie Halves
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-13-09
                                  • 4507

                                  #17
                                  I think leaving Riley Nelson in there is the right move. Boise State's defense is really really good, and a guy like Nelson can carve up the Warriors' D, to where this other guy I'm not sure, I've only seen him run around and throw a few short passes.

                                  I can't expect anything out of Hawaii at all however. Norm Chow is an overrated OC that got the job in part because he's part Asian and can recruit local kids away from other western schools that are taking them all. Bad hire. I banked on Nevada -7 big last week, and just can't count on the +26, even though that's the only bet worth considering.
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                                  • numismatist
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-02-11
                                    • 2192

                                    #18
                                    6.5 pt Teaser. Hawaii + over BYU 47 Hawaii 17
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                                    • Bbfromgpt
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-24-12
                                      • 6115

                                      #19
                                      They aren't thinking of replacing Nelson based solely off performance. He has a few screwed up vertebra in his back
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                                      • Ralphie Halves
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-13-09
                                        • 4507

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Bbfromgpt
                                        They aren't thinking of replacing Nelson based solely off performance. He has a few screwed up vertebra in his back
                                        Ah, good to know. We'll learn a lot about Taysom tonight. If he can't throw against Hawaii, BYU is no different than Boise this year -- great D + white running QB that can't throw downfield = great opportunities for future unders and fades.
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                                        • andco1
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 04-04-12
                                          • 108

                                          #21
                                          Hawaii has not D but didn't they put up over 400 yards on Nevada? Hawaii plus the points is the play
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                                          • RG3ING
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-14-12
                                            • 1622

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Ralphie Halves
                                            Ah, good to know. We'll learn a lot about Taysom tonight. If he can't throw against Hawaii, BYU is no different than Boise this year -- great D + white running QB that can't throw downfield = great opportunities for future unders and fades.
                                            Really bro what does white have to do with
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                                            • dknight734
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-10-10
                                              • 2268

                                              #23
                                              o/u line movement suggests that under might be the play in this one. BYU with their slow offense and HI with the long travel, short week, and banged up team.
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                                              • 5mike5
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 09-21-11
                                                • 52056

                                                #24
                                                hawaii TT over 12.5
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                                                • Capnitrite
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 08-19-12
                                                  • 73

                                                  #25
                                                  Degenerates
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                                                  • Retrospect
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 11-08-10
                                                    • 602

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by RG3ING
                                                    Really bro what does white have to do with
                                                    think tebow maybe
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                                                    • benibrowns
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 01-23-10
                                                      • 195

                                                      #27
                                                      I love the over tonight, seems like it should go over in the first half...
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                                                      • dknight734
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-10-10
                                                        • 2268

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by benibrowns
                                                        I love the over tonight, seems like it should go over in the first half...
                                                        why? seems like a public bet, with the line moving the wrong way?
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                                                        • Eric22174
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-01-10
                                                          • 1334

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by dknight734
                                                          why? seems like a public bet, with the line moving the wrong way?
                                                          Hawaii is giving up points by the bushel. They can't stop anything. As you look at the 21 pt game last year that BYU won this Hawaii team can't stop the BYU offensive scheme. Norm Chow is in his first year at Hawaii and he's having trouble getting his team to gel. This game will not have much defense played in it. And after BYU lost last week in a poor offensive effort I think they explode.
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                                                          • Eric22174
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-01-10
                                                            • 1334

                                                            #30
                                                            Also....remember BYU was ranked 25th at the beginning of the year. They aren't a push over.
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                                                            • dknight734
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-10-10
                                                              • 2268

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Eric22174
                                                              Hawaii is giving up points by the bushel. They can't stop anything. As you look at the 21 pt game last year that BYU won this Hawaii team can't stop the BYU offensive scheme. Norm Chow is in his first year at Hawaii and he's having trouble getting his team to gel. This game will not have much defense played in it. And after BYU lost last week in a poor offensive effort I think they explode.
                                                              you think that buy -26 won;d be the better bet?
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                                                              • pulledclear
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 02-19-12
                                                                • 6684

                                                                #32
                                                                I will PASS. GL
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                                                                • Eric22174
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 10-01-10
                                                                  • 1334

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by dknight734
                                                                  you think that buy -26 won;d be the better bet?
                                                                  I think the Over is the best bet. But if your taking the over you should take BYU. Hawaii isn't impressive but they can score at least 10 pts. 41-10 final IMO
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                                                                  • Eric22174
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 10-01-10
                                                                    • 1334

                                                                    #34


                                                                    Sounds to me that they are up for this game. Just saying
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                                                                    • Mufasa
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 09-27-12
                                                                      • 27

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Small on the under just for action
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