Online blackjack a fix job?

**Mikail** · 09-02-09, 08:25 PM

Total fraud. Stay away from online blackjack. I once lost 18 hands out of 20. Go to any real casino and see how often this happens. I also noticed that the higher you bet the increments in which you win a hand decrease!

**Reload** · 09-02-09, 08:30 PM

Not fixed at all. It doesn't need to be. Already enough of an edge and it adds up to a lot over hours and hours with how fast the game moves.

**tarheelfan72** · 09-02-09, 09:16 PM

Not fixed at all??

**TheBeautifulGame** · 09-03-09, 03:23 AM

I've said it recently. Nobody should bet in online Casinos, they are a scam, rip off. You will only ever see a very small percentage of players winning any money in an online casino. The best advice you can be given is to stay away.

**shhhhh22** · 09-03-09, 03:42 AM

the only people i've ever seen who "win" online casinos are the people who bet $1-$2 a hand... good luck with that!!

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 09-03-09, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by Mikail

Total fraud. Stay away from online blackjack. I once lost 18 hands out of 20.

Nothing remotely suspicious about that.

jp · 09-03-09, 11:45 AM

try Live BlackJack at: http://betphoenix.com, real dealer

**actionaddict86** · 09-03-09, 11:53 AM

online blackjack will cost u a hand...
scam!

**head_strong** · 09-03-09, 11:56 AM

Did OJ Simpson kill his wife.....everyone knows the answer but just can't prove it.

**VegasDave** · 09-03-09, 11:59 AM

Blackjack is a brutal game live, too... I've seen people lose 10-20 straight hands multiple times. While I'm sure some of the less-reputable books rig the game, for the good books, it really doesn't make sense to. It's a +EV game for them when dealt fairly with a house edge of around 2-3% assuming perfect strategy by the player, which MANY players do not use. With the amount of hands played with a computerized deal single handed, the casino can make a killing with a fair game... Why fix it?

Good casinos would much rather you win every now and then and keep coming back for more than lose 10 straight hands and swear it off for life.

**VegasDave** · 09-03-09, 12:03 PM

I'm one of the unluckiest live blackjack players ever... I play perfect strategy and yet in my life honest to God I've had about 5 winning sessions to 30-40 losing ones. At this point its become a novelty to show my friends... "Hey, check out how fast I get wiped out in BJ".

I can't claim that the cards being dealt live right in front of me are "rigged" just because the dealer ALWAYS gets a face card to my 14s and 15s. That's just the game, and it sucks sometimes. Or for some people, all the time.

My Dad just ran $100 up to $1300 last trip to Vegas. I can only dream of a run like that. So it goes.

**MadTiger** · 09-03-09, 12:04 PM

Somewhat fixed.

I thwarted that, though, by inventing a little trick about five years ago: I reloaded the game after every hand/spin/roll. Reset the supposedly random RNG, etc. after each play!

Made it "more fair."

**dealer wins** · 09-03-09, 12:57 PM

Online BJ is rigged at 95% of places IMO. There are a few that play fair, the one one I can think of that I remember is the old Crockfords online casino, and the old Harrods online casino.

They were the only 2 places where the cards seemed the same as land based BJ.

Every other place ive played its obvious that when you press deal, the software decides whether you will win or lose and manufactures appropriate cards. These "computer generated to win or lose cards" are so obvious to any serious land based casino player it sticks out like a sore thumb.

**hawkeyes24** · 09-03-09, 01:16 PM

YES...Online blackjack is 100% fixed, and Mikail is correct...the more you wager the greater the chance you will lose that given hand. That DPS or DGS software or whatever it is called that most of these books use is a total joke. I have lost hundreds and thousands of dollars playing this fixed game and now i tell every book i play with to block my casino access due to my compuliveness. I will, however, say that I have played at betphoenix and although i lost there too, it does seem at least legit because it is a live game with a live dealer

**andrea** · 09-03-09, 02:15 PM

Agreed! I always WIN everytime I wager smaller than my usual one and
when I turn it higher my lucky will be dropped down... Isn't this suspicous???
It's like a pattern of them..

**frankthetank** · 09-03-09, 03:30 PM

I dont know if online BJ is fixed or not. But how many times have you been with a live dealer at a Casino and the dealer just mops everyone up? and you swear this has to be fixed. But the cards are all right in front of you. It just runs in spells sometimes I guess. But I prefer a live dealer 100 times out of 100 over a machine of any type.

**Cferrat** · 09-03-09, 03:36 PM

We had a guy win 10K the other day and there are also losers but like any game of chance its tough to beat the house, even if you are in vegas and at the table, I have lost enough in Vegas to retire, but its fun, right? .

**bad_ass** · 09-03-09, 03:51 PM

In online casino, all games are fix.... these is my advise to u, if you wanna live to see the day.. stay away from online casino..

**pokerplayer22** · 09-03-09, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by Cferrat

We had a guy win 10K the other day and there are also losers but like any game of chance its tough to beat the house, even if you are in vegas and at the table, I have lost enough in Vegas to retire, but its fun, right? .

Cferrat...which sportsbook are you with?

**raddle_snake** · 09-03-09, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by bad_ass

In online casino, all games are fix.... these is my advise to u, if you wanna live to see the day.. stay away from online casino..

Ya I agree with u

**threeg5** · 09-03-09, 08:26 PM

Very possible

Originally posted by raddle_snake

Ya I agree with u

I took 217$ and made 5214$ in 4 hours at craps online crazy yes but I did and ever since that early sunday morning in late june I have made 0
$ weather it be real or play money now this is all at the same book/casino and I have yet to attempt anything like it elsewhere I do not honetly know if it was luck or the casino "sucking me in" either way I have yet to spend all of that $$ back at them. I did take a 4200$ deposit from them with no problems so the overall process was pleasent but I have a feeling ( I aint as good as I think I am)

**BarkingToad** · 09-03-09, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by head_strong

Did OJ Simpson kill his wife.....everyone knows the answer but just can't prove it.

Very well put.

**BobHarvey** · 09-03-09, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by Reload

Not fixed at all. It doesn't need to be. Already enough of an edge and it adds up to a lot over hours and hours with how fast the game moves.

Your kidding right?

**threeg5** · 09-03-09, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by BobHarvey

Your kidding right?

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 09-03-09, 09:12 PM

Easy to prove blackjack is fixed, just play a large number of hands. With the rules known, it's possible to calculate the chance of any given win/loss. If it's rigged, it's very easy to prove statistically.

**threeg5** · 09-03-09, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by BobHarvey

Your kidding right?

sorry guys browser crash and accidentally reposted none the less this is still that funny

**Imgoinhungry** · 09-05-09, 05:22 PM

Reload... are you kidding me? You can say its not fixed w a straight face? Double when you have 11 and dealer has 6.... you get 3 and dealer gets 3 10. All the time. Stay when dealer shows six and dealer gets AA 3. Its a ****ing joke. Complete fix job. Stay away.

**Luckbox** · 09-05-09, 05:38 PM

Isn't there a requirement that all sites need to be verified by an independent 3rd party? Why would you need to rig a game where the players have no chance of winning in the first place

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 09-05-09, 07:44 PM

Rigging would be quite crazy. Easy to prove statistically, then that site is tarnished publically and their business will die.

That's why nobody but complete pissant companies have ever done it. Casinos are free money for them, why destroy that?

**patswin** · 09-06-09, 07:14 AM

no

**pokerplayer22** · 09-06-09, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW

Rigging would be quite crazy. Easy to prove statistically, then that site is tarnished publically and their business will die.

That's why nobody but complete pissant companies have ever done it. Casinos are free money for them, why destroy that?

I have probably lost a couple hundred playing with this fixed blackjack software probably 60 different times and have never won more than probably $60 at any one session. The software simply will not let you catch a big run and the second you increase your bets they will destroy you. I have been playing blackjack for 25 years in live casinos. Although most of the time you are going to lose live as well, you at least once in a while catch a run of cards and make a nice score...Not online though!!!

**Dark Horse** · 09-06-09, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW

Rigging would be quite crazy. Easy to prove statistically, then that site is tarnished publically and their business will die.

It would only have to be rigged to the point where the proof is inconclusive. Easy.

Never, ever trust a computer program to deal, unless you programmed it.

**Jaug** · 09-06-09, 02:08 PM

Stay to a reputable casino like intercasino or one of the well known sportsbooks. They have absolutely no reason to rig the casino games since their edge is already huge.

**homerbush** · 09-06-09, 02:14 PM

Because of greed. Haven't you ever heard of the stories where some guy made millions with his illegal slot device but instead of just continue to make money he tried to sell replicas of the device because he though he could speed up his income. There are like 5 of these stories every week. Sure you could make 2% a hand but why not go for 5%