UFC on FOX 5: Henderson vs. Diaz (Dec 08)

**AdamB** · 08-15-12, 11:11 AM

I flat out refuse to be excited for a card anymore until maximum a week before it. I wonder if any of these fights will actually happen.

**THE_LOCKSMITH** · 08-15-12, 11:19 AM

yea more than 3 months away, odds that these 6 fighters will all be on the card. +500

**sportsfanatic** · 08-15-12, 12:34 PM

really hope no one gets injured in training

**bjpenn85** · 08-15-12, 12:45 PM

the card is stacked from top to bottom!!!! Just need phil de fries now...common....where is he...

**DirtyX** · 08-15-12, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH

Benson Henderson vs. Nate Diaz (for lightweight title)
Alexander Gustafsson vs. Mauricio "Shogun Rua
Rory MacDonald vs. B.J. Penn

http://mmajunkie.com/news/30172/ufc-...-macdonald.mma

This card is worth another Vegas trip.

**Vitooch** · 08-15-12, 02:35 PM

**gabe** · 08-15-12, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by DirtyX

This card is worth another Vegas trip.

is it gonna be in the veezie?

**Vaughany** · 08-15-12, 02:39 PM

Wowza Nat Diaz at +260!

**The HOFF** · 08-15-12, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Wowza Nat Diaz at +260!

Shhhhhh.

**sideloaded** · 08-15-12, 03:37 PM

OMG joey odessa is really really dumb

**AdamB** · 08-15-12, 03:44 PM

Interesting.

**Beelzebubzy** · 08-15-12, 03:47 PM

Line moved. Did nunya get all 10 on Diaz

**Vaughany** · 08-15-12, 03:47 PM

haha

**DirtyX** · 08-15-12, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Vitooch

All of these lines are off imo. POUND!

**Crassus** · 08-15-12, 04:11 PM

Why 5Dimes!? Why?!

**PunisherIND** · 08-15-12, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by DirtyX

All of these lines are off imo. POUND!

the rory mac line reached -260 last time around

**BIGDAY** · 08-15-12, 04:54 PM

Card looks amazing! Hope it doesn't fall apart.

**GunShard** · 08-15-12, 05:59 PM

Nice fight card.

**Kaladarus** · 08-15-12, 06:24 PM

Books going to get mauled on this one.

**El Nino** · 08-15-12, 07:49 PM

The books hate Nate Diaz

**Beelzebubzy** · 08-15-12, 07:54 PM

Benson has a clear path to victory,

**El Nino** · 08-15-12, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Benson has a clear path to victory,

A lot of people thought Cerrone did too. I had Diaz as a fav over Miller.

**Vitooch** · 08-15-12, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

Books going to get mauled on this one.

I hope that wasn't a bad MMA pun...

**rocky16** · 08-15-12, 10:28 PM

Wow, a lot of value on Nate there. I was thinking Bendo would open around -160. +210 for Nate? Damn. Love Gus at -145. He's going keep Shogun at bay and box him up for 3 rounds.

**DirtyX** · 08-16-12, 12:24 AM

Originally posted by El Nino

A lot of people thought Cerrone did too. I had Diaz as a fav over Miller.

At those odds, the value is on Diaz, no doubt.

**gabe** · 08-16-12, 02:52 AM

If Bendo fights more like how he fought Miller and Guida, he should win.

I'll probably sprinkle a bit on Diaz by Decision and fight goes distanciaa

**GunShard** · 08-16-12, 07:20 AM

The judges might screw with the Diaz brothers again.

**Beelzebubzy** · 08-16-12, 07:44 AM

Cerrone Henderson round 1 of fight 1 is worse case scenario IMO

Hendos gameplan should be to leg kick

**AdamB** · 08-16-12, 08:14 AM

I reckon Diaz's last three performances might be clouding my judgement. When I first saw that line, I thought that it was way off. Thing is, looking at it logically, Bendo is a nightmare matchup - insanely difficult to submit, strong wrestling, hard leg kicks which both the Diaz bros are susceptible to. Still feel like the line should be a little closer with the kind of tear that Diaz is on.

**rocky16** · 08-16-12, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by AdamB

I reckon Diaz's last three performances might be clouding my judgement. When I first saw that line, I thought that it was way off. Thing is, looking at it logically, Bendo is a nightmare matchup - insanely difficult to submit, strong wrestling, hard leg kicks which both the Diaz bros are susceptible to. Still feel like the line should be a little closer with the kind of tear that Diaz is on.

Cerrone has much better leg kicks and was tooled on the feet. Jim Miller has good wrestling, is strong, and is impossible to submit too and he got waxed. Line is definitely off.

**rocky16** · 08-16-12, 10:04 AM

Anyone else find it funny that Nick was known for struggling with wrestlers and was inconsistent. Started off 15-7 before he hit his stride. Nate same deal and was 13-7 before he hit his stride and has won 3 in a row. Their careers mirror one another.

**AdamB** · 08-16-12, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by rocky16

Cerrone has much better leg kicks and was tooled on the feet. Jim Miller has good wrestling, is strong, and is impossible to submit too and he got waxed. Line is definitely off.

I took both of those into consideration mate. Would have to look at the stats, but how many leg kicks did Cerrone throw? I seem to remember about 3 or 4, and he had success with them when he did use them. Diaz totally got into his head.

I don't feel like Miller's wrestling is anywhere near to Bendo's - his offensive BJJ is way better, however. He, again, tried to brawl with Diaz like Cerrone did, got the piss kicked out of him and then got caught in a nasty sub.

I feel Bendo's mental game is very strong and just don't see him getting flustered in the same way.

**bjpenn85** · 08-16-12, 10:35 AM

Diaz, makes people fight his game. He outclasses the people he face. Is it worth playing @ +200? Obviously! if i had it on my book, i wouldnt just pound the line, i would anally creampie it!!!!

**AdamB** · 08-16-12, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

Diaz, makes people fight his game. He outclasses the people he face. Is it worth playing @ +200? Obviously! if i had it on my book, i wouldnt just pound the line, i would anally creampie it!!!!

Yeah, just to clarify, I'm not saying there's not definite value in Diaz. 3 incredibly dominant performances, 2 of which were against really legit fighters against a guy who's just had two very close fights (and he was in a couple of dangerous spots against Guida too, despite it not being a close fight).