****Offical UFC 151 Jones vs Henderson thread*****

[GunShard]

Jones will defeat Henderson with the Age factor.

[Beelzebubzy]

Anyone else on Old Man Hallman?

[bjpenn85]

He should be slightly favoured on the feet, and heavily on the ground. Perhaps the public dont remember that hallman was injured in his last fight? The line doesnt make any sene right now.

[gabe]

Bisping doesnt hit hard at all but he gets lots of TKOs because of his cardio, accuracy, pure volume of strikes. Rashad has excellent TDD and Hendo does not. A few takedowns and GnP will leave Hendo tired and bloody like Shogun against Bones

Chael Sonnen said no one has ever hit him as hard as Bisping

[Vaughany]

Sonnen says a lot of shiiit tho! Also claimed that he never said Armstrong gave himself cancer!

[sirchadwick1]

Anyone else on Old Man Hallman?

At +160 or better I think he's worth a shot. Tavares can struggle against decent wrestlers, as we've seen in the past.

[Vaughany]

I'll be waiting until after weigh-in before making any sort of play on tht fight

[sirchadwick1]

I'll be waiting until after weigh-in before making any sort of play on tht fight

Making sure Superman doesn't show up in his blue underoos again?

[Vaughany]

Making sure Superman doesn't show up in his blue underoos again?

ha tht combined with missing weight would be good to see

[Vaughany]

[BIGDAY]

Making sure Superman doesn't show up in his blue underoos again?

I think I will never get that image out of my head. Just unreal

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

suprised \hallman is still in the ufc after that

[gabe]

suprised \hallman is still in the ufc after that

I'm surprised they gave him an easy opponent after that.

[Vaughany]

I'm surprised they gave him an easy opponent after that.

Maybe they thought Makdessi would brutally KO him or something!

[Vitooch]

Hallman has been a journeyman in this sport for a long time now. I don't think he was as concerned with the potential consequences of that incident as one may think.

[PunisherIND]

dimes released the remainder of the prop lines

Sat 9/1		1035 Henderson wins by submission		+2055
11:59PM		1036 Any other result		-6165
Sat 9/1		1037 Henderson wins by TKO/KO		+825
11:59PM		1038 Any other result		-1725
Sat 9/1		1039 Jones wins by submission		+140
11:59PM		1040 Any other result		-180
Sat 9/1		1041 Jones wins by TKO/KO		+160
11:59PM		1042 Any other result		-210

Sat 9/1		1051 Henderson/Jones starts round 5		+325
11:59PM		1052 Fight won't start round 5		-470
Sat 9/1		1053 Henderson/Jones starts round 4		+250
11:59PM		1054 Fight won't start round 4		-350
Sat 9/1		1055 Henderson/Jones starts round 3		-120
11:59PM		1056 Fight won't start round 3		-120
Sat 9/1		1057 Henderson/Jones starts round 2		-350
11:59PM		1058 Fight won't start round 2		+250

[gabe]

Maybe they thought Makdessi would brutally KO him or something!

Makdessi should be fighting at 145, or even 135 and his weakness is wrestling... I feel like an idiot for actually betting him in that fight lol i actually thought he would be able to catch him too

[gabe]

Man, so far, I am diggin' the lines for this card...

[AdamB]

dimes released the remainder of the prop lines

Sat 9/1		1035 Henderson wins by submission		+2055
11:59PM		1036 Any other result		-6165
Sat 9/1		1037 Henderson wins by TKO/KO		+825
11:59PM		1038 Any other result		-1725
Sat 9/1		1039 Jones wins by submission		+140
11:59PM		1040 Any other result		-180
Sat 9/1		1041 Jones wins by TKO/KO		+160
11:59PM		1042 Any other result		-210

Sat 9/1		1051 Henderson/Jones starts round 5		+325
11:59PM		1052 Fight won't start round 5		-470
Sat 9/1		1053 Henderson/Jones starts round 4		+250
11:59PM		1054 Fight won't start round 4		-350
Sat 9/1		1055 Henderson/Jones starts round 3		-120
11:59PM		1056 Fight won't start round 3		-120
Sat 9/1		1057 Henderson/Jones starts round 2		-350
11:59PM		1058 Fight won't start round 2		+250

I kind of figured Henderson by KO/TKO would be the same as his straight up price or really similar, there's a surprising gap but even though he almost certainly loses, if he wins it sure as shit isn't by decision or submission. If I recall correctly, McKenzie's line on winning by sub was the same as his SU price against Chad Mendes, at least on my sportsbook.

EDIT: The real question is, can we trust in Jones' ego to try for the TKO? As long as he pushes the pace enough, he can surely wear Hendo down to the point of being as gassed as he was against Shogun, although admittedly that was more down to him using Shogun as a heavy bag for 3 rounds. Then again, if Hendo is that gassed and Jones has him in a vulnerable position on the ground, can we really trust that he'll not sink in an easy sub as opposed to dropping numerous elbows for the TKO?

[PunisherIND]

I kind of figured Henderson by KO/TKO would be the same as his straight up price or really similar, there's a surprising gap but even though he almost certainly loses, if he wins it sure as shit isn't by decision or submission. If I recall correctly, McKenzie's line on winning by sub was the same as his SU price against Chad Mendes, at least on my sportsbook.

agree. it shouldnt be the same as his SU price, but should be closer.

[v1y]

are you guys living in revisionist history world? makdessi was the favorite over hallman.

[gabe]

are you guys living in revisionist history world? makdessi was the favorite over hallman.

and joey beltran was a huge favorite over lavar johnson, what's your point? sometimes the books are way off, which is what makes betting mma so great. hallman vs makdessi was clearly a mismatch favoring hallman.

[sideloaded]

and joey beltran was a huge favorite over lavar johnson, what's your point? sometimes the books are way off, which is what makes betting mma so great. hallman vs makdessi was clearly a mismatch favoring hallman.

Gabe I would take that parlay out of your sig. It is nothing to brag about. You paid -450 for tate and she got her brains beat in.

[gabe]

Gabe I would take that parlay out of your sig. It is nothing to brag about. You paid -450 for tate and she got her brains beat in.

Round 1- Julie
Round 2- Miesha
Round 3- Miesha by submission
Result= $$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Crassus]

Would Miesha have won the decision you think? She was actively going for the sub the entire round other than the head-kick.

[PunisherIND]

Would Miesha have won the decision you think? She was actively going for the sub the entire round other than the head-kick.

if the fight played out that way on the ground, miesha probably would have won the decision since kedezie would have spent the majority of the round fending off subs. but, if kedezie had kept the fight standing after the head kick, she would have ko'd meisha. meisha looked finished at the beginning of the round. she was dropped from a kick to the shin early in the round. lol. i couldnt believe that. kedezie acknowledged it after the fight. she got a little too aggresive and it backfired.

gabe you have to admit, it didnt look good at the start of round 3 when tate was dropped by the kick to the shin.

[Crassus]

if the fight played out that way on the ground, miesha probably would have won the decision since kedezie would have spent the majority of the round fending off subs. but, if kedezie had kept the fight standing after the head kick, she would have ko'd meisha. meisha looked finished at the beginning of the round. she was dropped from a kick to the shin early in the round. lol. i couldnt believe that. kedezie acknowledged it after the fight. she got a little too aggresive and it backfired.

gabe you have to admit, it didnt look good at the start of round 3 when tate was dropped by the kick to the shin.

Oh yeah, Miesha looked like a joke on the feet. But would the sub attempts have overtaken the head-kick is what I'm wondering, if she hadn't pulled it off. Woulda been a tough call.

[gabe]

if the fight played out that way on the ground, miesha probably would have won the decision since kedezie would have spent the majority of the round fending off subs. but, if kedezie had kept the fight standing after the head kick, she would have ko'd meisha. meisha looked finished at the beginning of the round. she was dropped from a kick to the shin early in the round. lol. i couldnt believe that. kedezie acknowledged it after the fight. she got a little too aggresive and it backfired.

gabe you have to admit, it didnt look good at the start of round 3 when tate was dropped by the kick to the shin.

i've won a lot of bets where my guy was getting his ass kicked then came back, and i've lost some where my guy was dominating then got caught... okami vs boetsch and alves vs kampmann really raped me

[Grabaka]

In hindsight Tate was not a good. Damn, she was -450 and she was pretty close to being finished plus the fight was close by the way miesha was fighting.
Even if Alves lost it was a good bet (he had an edge and he was using it smartly until last minute), Okami's was so so bet if i recall the line correctly...Boetsch was being outclassed.

[Grabaka]

That being said i had money on all 3. But tate im not proud of.

[gabe]

Alright, let's discuss these fights:

Means vs Trujillo

Brenneman vs Noke

Lineker vs Urushitani

[Vaughany]

Extended preview of Jones vs Hendo>>
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xszcbl_ufc-151-jones-vs-henderson-extended-preview_sport

[Vaughany]

Rumours floating around tht Hendo is injured

[Grabaka]

I have been reading for hours on this.
I would not jump into any conclussion yet...aparently there kenflo and luke thomas saying its something worse than what was originally posted but nothing to do with roids, TRT nor injury. But Florian posted we might be missing out the main event tho. So it could be something else.

[Vaughany]