****Offical UFC 151 Jones vs Henderson thread*****

[gabe]

Also, Hendo has never been stopped by KO. Jones seems like the type of guy who wants to be the first to stop him by KO, like he was the first to submit Machida. Jones by KO might be worth a sprinkle. GNP stoppage.

[Vaughany]

Sub is the way to go, sotn is not worth the risk. chances are it will be some kind of easy choke, and there will be a better sub on the card by someone else.

Yeah maybe. But looking at the other fights on the card Id be surprised if we see many subs, especially on main card. Ellenberger and Hieron is very unlikely to have a sub, Siver vs Yagin should be a stand up war with either a TKO or decision, Tavares/Hallman should cancel eachother's grappling out but a sub by Tavares isnt out of the question. Lineker Urushitani goes the distance I think

[gabe]

Yeah maybe. But looking at the other fights on the card Id be surprised if we see many subs, especially on main card. Ellenberger and Hieron is very unlikely to have a sub, Siver vs Yagin should be a stand up war with either a TKO or decision, Tavares/Hallman should cancel eachother's grappling out but a sub by Tavares isnt out of the question. Lineker Urushitani goes the distance I think

Hallman can get a sub, too. I can see Jay Hieron winning by sub... but yeah, you're right. Jones has best odds at SOTN.

[Vaughany]

Hallman can get a sub, too. I can see Jay Hieron winning by sub... but yeah, you're right. Jones has best odds at SOTN.

Im jus lookin for potential best value...Jones by sub will probably still be -150 to -200 range I guess, while SOTN will probably be at least +200

[gabe]

Im jus lookin for potential best value...Jones by sub will probably still be -150 to -200 range I guess, while SOTN will probably be at least +200

but less risk in jones by sub... i think personally, i'm just going with Jones ITD to be safe... i believe Jones is the type of dude whos ego makes him really want to be the first person to ever KO Hendo.

[Vaughany]

Yeah, only takes a couple of elbows on the ground like he did to Vera and the ref could step in

[Vaughany]

There's a promo thing on UFC.com where Jones is sayin he wants to be first to TKO him

[Beelzebubzy]

He also said he wanted to be the first to finish rashad in tr first round

[Vitooch]

When he fought Matt Hamill, he said he wanted to be the first fighter to beat someone so badly that they go deaf

[Vaughany]

He also said he wanted to be the first to finish rashad in tr first round

yeah it wont stop me from playing SOTN!

[Beelzebubzy]

I'll be on sub of the night as well
Not playing inside the distance as I have jones in several parlays and do not want any more exposed risk
Hoping to get finish in rd 1 at decent odds

[Beelzebubzy]

This should play as close to the vladdy fight if I were gameplabbing this
obviously hendos Greco is a tad bit better than Mr Vlad

[sideloaded]

the difference percentage wise from -700 to -1250 isnt that large

[Crassus]

I don't think you get punctuation...

No deflecting Gabe

[sirchadwick1]

Screw it... thought about betting Hendo for value, but I just can't do it.

Goin big on a Bones/Benavidez parlay.

[gabe]

yeah, i knew this is how he thinks lol was on the money:

“It’ll be like walking into a dark room. He won’t know what to expect. A lot of the random stuff that I do, I feel very confident that I’m gonna be the first guy to TKO him. I’m gonna slowly and methodically hit him one hit at a time until he decides that his body’s hurting and he wants the fight to be over. Nature will take its course… Dan Henderson is just another tough guy. He’s not some mythical figure to me. If Dan Henderson thinks he’s gonna be the guy to take my belt, he’s got another thing coming. I will remain the UFC’s light heavyweight champion.”

[GoBigOrGetBroke]

Jones may very well end Hendo's time

[DirtyX]

I am the son of a keyboard warrior

I knew you were just an iignorant little kid who has mental issues due to being a possible victim of incest. Keyboard Warriors usually inbreed, so it all makes sense now.

[gabe]

I knew you were just an iignorant little kid who has mental issues due to being a possible victim of incest. Keyboard Warriors usually inbreed, so it all makes sense now.

BetMasta speaks highly of you as an ass kicker. I want you to tag along with me to comedy clubs and beat up anybody who talks shit or heckles me.

[BIGDAY]

Hendo is too unpredictable. Guy is a warrior. If Rashad found a couple oppertunities I think Hendo will also. I think Hendo's overhand right comes hidden better than anyones. I don't think Jones is a lock here. Yet so hard to wager against him... Frick!~ Hope to get a good line on fights sees Rd 2.

Wouldn't be surprised if this fight sees the distance as well. Will probably sprinkle a little on that.

[Vaughany]

Hendo is too unpredictable. Guy is a warrior. If Rashad found a couple oppertunities I think Hendo will also. I think Hendo's overhand right comes hidden better than anyones. I don't think Jones is a lock here. Yet so hard to wager against him... Frick!~ Hope to get a good line on fights sees Rd 2.

Wouldn't be surprised if this fight sees the distance as well. Will probably sprinkle a little on that.

yep agree, probably be another one were they start of tentative with Jones circling and keeping his lead arm out to gauge range for 5 minutes

[BIGDAY]

yep agree, probably be another one were they start of tentative with Jones circling and keeping his lead arm out to gauge range for 5 minutes

100% How I see it. I don't see Hendo testing his range early either.

If the fight stops inside the dist, I see Rd 2 or early rd 3.

[AdamB]

Agree with you both. I see Jones playing it safe throwing long jabs and not committing too much for the first few rounds followed by Hendo starting to tire, Jones picking him apart then getting it to the floor and finishing by TKO with elbows. Hendo's gonna get more and more desperate to land that sledgehammer throughout the 2nd and going into the 3rd, that'll probably be the difference maker in him losing the cardio battle. Jones doesn't throw huge looping punches generally and is even less likely to here.

[PunisherIND]

gabe, this is for you.

also, this Jay Dee guy, does he post on here or does he only write articles for SBR?

http://www.sbrforum.com/ufc/free-picks/jon-jones-vs-dan-henderson-ufc-betting-picks-parlay-a-26088/

Jones at -700 is a huge favorite and there is not much value in betting this fight ... If you want to make some money on Jones I would recommend throwing him in a parlay to spruce up the betting odds.

[Vaughany]

lol Usually Illmatick does those breakdowns

[PunisherIND]

lol Usually Illmatick does those breakdowns

i know, but it looks like they have some other guys contributing too. the article that i quoted was not illmatick.

it took me a while to figure out that illmatick was writing those articles, which is why i was wondering if these other dudes post on here also.

[DeFactoCrippler]

gabe, this is for you.

also, this Jay Dee guy, does he post on here or does he only write articles for SBR?

http://www.sbrforum.com/ufc/free-pic...arlay-a-26088/

I don't know why peopleare giving gabe such a hard time about that. Just the other week nearly EVERYONE here was saying all kinds of shit about parlays. From the posters in gimp masks all the way to "pro" mma gamblers. Nobody said shit.

[PunisherIND]

I don't know why peopleare giving gabe such a hard time about that. Just the other week nearly EVERYONE here was saying all kinds of shit about parlays. From the posters in gimp masks all the way to "pro" mma gamblers. Nobody said shit.

personally, im not trying to give gabe any shit about his parlays. i utilize a similar system so i know where he's coming from. the problem is this concept that putting it in a parlay will magically add value when there is no perceived value SU.

did the gimp mask post last week? i thought the kid finally realized he was the laughing stock of the forum and disappeared. haven't seen any of his posts in a while. i would love another round of memes.

[Vaughany]

I don't know why peopleare giving gabe such a hard time about that. Just the other week nearly EVERYONE here was saying all kinds of shit about parlays. From the posters in gimp masks all the way to "pro" mma gamblers. Nobody said shit.

Ah yeah, plenty of people are guilty of doing it...Fury says things like it all the time on the oddcast or whatever its called. Think people give Gabe more of hard time about it because he doesnt grasp the math!

[Beelzebubzy]

Yay we love gabe again!!!!!

I have a 9 team parlay, wouldn't play any of them straight up like my jack but I make prophets But profits too

[DeFactoCrippler]

did the gimp mask post last week? i thought the kid finally realized he was the laughing stock of the forum and disappeared. haven't seen any of his posts in a while. i would love another round of memes.

Maybe now that the forum is moderated and there is a new relaxed vibe, posters like wannabet and possibly even adam bowden might make their reappearance.

Maybe everyone was too hard on adam bowden. To be fair, dude was 1-0 with his picks.

[gabe]

Hendo is too unpredictable. Guy is a warrior. If Rashad found a couple oppertunities I think Hendo will also. I think Hendo's overhand right comes hidden better than anyones. I don't think Jones is a lock here. Yet so hard to wager against him... Frick!~ Hope to get a good line on fights sees Rd 2.

Wouldn't be surprised if this fight sees the distance as well. Will probably sprinkle a little on that.

I would say you could see it coming from a mile away...

[gabe]

personally, im not trying to give gabe any shit about his parlays. i utilize a similar system so i know where he's coming from. the problem is this concept that putting it in a parlay will magically add value when there is no perceived value SU.

did the gimp mask post last week? i thought the kid finally realized he was the laughing stock of the forum and disappeared. haven't seen any of his posts in a while. i would love another round of memes.

It doesn't magically add value, I just don't have a problem with having $50 to win $400 on a parlay with Okami in it, but wouldn't risk $300 to win $50 on him straight-up.

[Crassus]

I would say you could see it coming from a mile away...

If that was the case how did Hendo KTFO one of the best strikers at 205 in Feijao?

[gabe]

How did Bowden get his thread removed?