Wanna Bet's Play of the Week Volume IV: Wanderlei Silva vs Rich Franklin

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These videos clearly mean the world to him. Think about how much time he puts in researching and writing the script for it. Not to mention all the trouble he goes to phagging it up with his bukkake cup.

He really puts a lot of thought into them. The videos mean more than the money to him. All about attention and validation. Pretty sure he is like 12 years old.

Actually they don't. I put a price tag on them. The initial sum you were willing to bet me in competition: $1000. Wired to Van1ty in escrow.

You scurred.

[PunisherIND]

I'm afraid that I might get AIDS from reading this horrible argument

lmao, wear a rubber next time.

[DeFactoCrippler]

That's not the deal scumbag.

1. This is a capping contest. The superior +EV bettor wins. The signature I proposed reflects that. I'm not agreeing to a blind signature agreement with a troll who will force a crude, slanderous signature. You have no class; I'm not falling for your shit.

2. I'm fine with a sig bet length of a year.

The smaller the number of bets posted, the shorter the sig bet. If you want a fixed bankroll competition, I'm game for a one-year sig bet. Otherwise, it will be negotiated based on which option you choose.

What a focking pussy, you wan to make an "air sig bet". I'm going to say that again, an "air sig bet".

You want me to put, "Defacto owned Wannabet"? Are you serious. I'm done. I will let others judge how much of a pussy you are.

Seriously, it's me versus the two biggest phagets on this forum. 12 year old in a gimp mask, and the kid who doesn't know what a +EV bet is. Combined age over/under 29.5.

You're a coward. A week ago you were crying foul about his offensive stereotypes. Now you trust him with thousands of dollars. A fool and his money are easily separated.

What, are you mad that Dublin didn't join the sisterhood of "I got bullied by Defacto victims" that you and fosho14 started, lol.

[DeFactoCrippler]

Actually they don't. I put a price tag on them. The initial sum you were willing to bet me in competition: $1000. Wired to Van1ty in escrow.

You scurred.

Yeah, I bet you think Floyd is ducking Manny too.

[DeFactoCrippler]

That's not the deal scumbag.

1. This is a capping contest. The superior +EV bettor wins. The signature I proposed reflects that. I'm not agreeing to a blind signature agreement with a troll who will force a crude, slanderous signature. You have no class; I'm not falling for your shit.

This show how confident you are in your abilities, that are are too "scurred" to even risk having something embarrassing in your sig? I thought you were trying to expose me here? I thought I knew nothing?

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ha ah yes "The MMA Gambling Guru" himself...somebody drop him a line and tell him two dudes want him to be the middle-man in a bitter dispute!

You sound a lil butthurt that I picked Van1ty over you. MMA Gambling Guru in inverted commas. LOL

He posts his real name on here. He posts his e-mail. He's a long-standing member of SBR & Sherdog. He's as credible a person as anyone.

Considering the ping-pong state of DFC trolling/you endorsing his assinine comments, for all I know DeFacto Crippler is your Dr Jeckyl & Mr Hyde dissociative fugue state.

Trust no one (except Michael Prosia).

[PunisherIND]

This was mentioned earlier, and I honestly think most would agree that Mike Prosia also known as Van1ty is the most respected and credible person on this forum. He doesn't post here that much, probably because of how many trolls frequent this domain (I don't blame him) but writes a fantastic blog, http://rationalmma.blogspot.ca/p/betting-articles.html
He has a large following and to my understanding is widely considered to be one of the best if not thee best capper around. As far as finding someone on here who is trustworthy in order to hold money, that is the only person I can think of and there is no close second.

That being said, I'm sure this challenge isn't gonna end up actually materializing anyway. Be very interesting to see if it did.

i agree v1 has terrific analysis, but how does that equate to him being the only trustworthy person on this forum? and moreover, why would he agree to escrow the funds for two guys he doesnt know, on a forum that he rarely ferquents? its starting to sound like a bunch of excuses.

[DeFactoCrippler]

You sound a lil butthurt that I picked Van1ty over you. MMA Gambling Guru in inverted commas. LOL

He posts his real name on here. He posts his e-mail. He's a long-standing member of SBR & Sherdog. He's as credible a person as anyone.

Considering the ping-pong state of DFC trolling/you endorsing his assinine comments, for all I know DeFacto Crippler is your Dr Jeckyl & Mr Hyde dissociative fugue state.

Trust no one (except Michael Prosia).

Look in the mirror phaget, seriously. You're a Luca Fury wannabe. He said the same shit I did to you until you went crawling and apologized.

[DeFactoCrippler]

i agree v1 has terrific analysis, but how does that equate to him being the only trustworthy person on this forum? and moreover, why would he agree to escrow the funds for two guys he doesnt know, on a forum that he rarely ferquents? its starting to sound like a bunch of excuses.

Can I hire you as my sbr attorney? I will transfer you 2 points a day as a retainer.

[PunisherIND]

You sound a lil butthurt that I picked Van1ty over you. MMA Gambling Guru in inverted commas. LOL

He posts his real name on here. He posts his e-mail. He's a long-standing member of SBR & Sherdog. He's as credible a person as anyone.

Considering the ping-pong state of DFC trolling/you endorsing his assinine comments, for all I know DeFacto Crippler is your Dr Jeckyl & Mr Hyde dissociative fugue state.

Trust no one (except Michael Prosia).

wow, getting really pathetic now. everything you say about v1, you could say the same about luca. yet two weeks ago he was your enemy #1.

so you're basically saying, since you don't find crippler to be funny, that anyone who has laughed at his comments cant be trusted?

[Vaughany]

You sound a lil butthurt that I picked Van1ty over you. MMA Gambling Guru in inverted commas. LOL

He posts his real name on here. He posts his e-mail. He's a long-standing member of SBR & Sherdog. He's as credible a person as anyone.

Considering the ping-pong state of DFC trolling/you endorsing his assinine comments, for all I know DeFacto Crippler is your Dr Jeckyl & Mr Hyde dissociative fugue state.

Trust no one (except Michael Prosia).

lol He's the one who calls himself the "MMA Gambling Guru".... I don't disagree, Im sure he's just as credible as anybody. I couldnt give two shiits if it's me or not..what do I gain from it apart from the hassle of having to forward money on or whatever!?

haha wondered how long it would take for tht one to come out...so Defacto is now Sideloaded, I'm SmarterThanU and Vaughany! What if I'm Gabe as well and been trolling all this time?

[Vaughany]

wow, getting really pathetic now. everything you say about v1, you could say the same about luca. yet two weeks ago he was your enemy #1.

so you're basically saying, since you don't find crippler to be funny, that anyone who has laughed at his comments cant be trusted?

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This show how confident you are in your abilities, that are are too "scurred" to even risk having something embarrassing in your sig? I thought you were trying to expose me here? I thought I knew nothing?

Saying a deadbeat like you is a better capper than me is pretty damn embarrassing. You have earned no respect for your MMA knowledge on here despite posting over 700 posts in just over 2 months. You say I have no life, spending my time on SBR & making videos, look in the mirror loser. In any thread on here you are sure to be found trolling on page 1. You have nothing better to do with your time. You are a nothing in life.

Look pussy, I'll say this very clearly: take the bet or piss off. I'm not going to go back & forth with you anymore on this or ANYTHING ever again. Your choice. /Endofdiscussion

[DeFactoCrippler]

wow, getting really pathetic now. everything you say about v1, you could say the same about luca. yet two weeks ago he was your enemy #1.

so you're basically saying, since you don't find crippler to be funny, that anyone who has laughed at his comments cant be trusted?

I agree that wannabet is pathetic, what bothers me is that this was clear (to me) from his very first video but it is only now becoming clear to everyone else.

Also before that when he went on twitter heckling luca Fury about that 3k parlay while he bets $50 units.

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wow, getting really pathetic now. everything you say about v1, you could say the same about luca. yet two weeks ago he was your enemy #1.

so you're basically saying, since you don't find crippler to be funny, that anyone who has laughed at his comments cant be trusted?

How is Van1ty the same as Luca? Did v1 and I publicly feud ever? No. I have no outstanding issues with Luca. In fact, I'd sooner have money wired to him in escrow than Vaughany. He is more easily traceable.

Are you that dumb to not understand the risks of having money exchanged to an Internet forum poster living over the Atlantic Ocean who doesn't post their name, address or any other identifying information?

Man, glad I've never had legal counsel but this moron. Doesn't understand page 1 in the book of common sense. What are you batting in court, 0-for-what?

[DeFactoCrippler]

How is Van1ty the same as Luca? Did v1 and I publicly feud ever? No. I have no outstanding issues with Luca. In fact, I'd sooner have money wired to him in escrow than Vaughany. He is more easily traceable.

Are you that dumb to not understand the risks of having money exchanged to an Internet forum poster living over the Atlantic Ocean who doesn't post their name, address or any other identifying information?

Man, glad I've never had legal counsel but this moron. Doesn't understand page 1 in the book of common sense. What are you batting in court, 0-for-what?

You remember when you were going through that feud with Luca and you went on your knees and apologized? Remember you said that you were "going through some things in your life" that made you overreact? Are you going through those things again sweetie? Is it that time of the month again?

I hope you are no so melodramatic when it comes to your wagers? oh wait...

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^^^ BLOCKED ^^^

Someone quote reply him if he accepts my challenge. Until then, I will no longer see/respond to this spineless bottom feeder.

[PunisherIND]

How is Van1ty the same as Luca? Did v1 and I publicly feud ever? No. I have no outstanding issues with Luca. In fact, I'd sooner have money wired to him in escrow than Vaughany. He is more easily traceable.

Are you that dumb to not understand the risks of having money exchanged to an Internet forum poster living over the Atlantic Ocean who doesn't post their name, address or any other identifying information?

Man, glad I've never had legal counsel but this moron. Doesn't understand page 1 in the book of common sense. What are you batting in court, 0-for-what?

you're hopeless son. i think we've all witnessed the metamorphosis of wannabet into the #1 troll on this forum. congrats buddy.

and to think, i've actually defended you from crippler in the past. don't i look foolish now. lol.

[DeFactoCrippler]

^^^ BLOCKED ^^^

Someone quote reply him if he accepts my challenge. Until then, I will no longer see/respond to this spineless bottom feeder.

Lightweight! Nuthin but a peanut! Yeaaaaaaa budayyyyyyyyyyy

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you're hopeless son. i think we've all witnessed the metamorphosis of wannabet into the #1 troll on this forum. congrats buddy.

and to think, i've actually defended you from crippler in the past. don't i look foolish now. lol.

Greater counter points. I'm sure your approach is highly effective in court as well.

Step 1: Make a bogus analogy.
Step 2: Get countered with clear differences in the analogy.
Step 3: Respond with insults instead of a counter that proves your analogy was correct.

How many billable hours of research did that take you?

You don't want to enter my world, son. It won't end well for you.

[DeFactoCrippler]

You don't want to enter my world, son. It won't end well for you.

Dude, you just got prison raped and had your asshole pissed in. Wtf are you talking about.

[PunisherIND]

Greater counter points. I'm sure your approach is highly effective in court as well.

Step 1: Make a bogus analogy.
Step 2: Get countered with clear differences in the analogy.
Step 3: Respond with insults instead of a counter that proves your analogy was correct.

How many billable hours of research did that take you?

You don't want to enter my world, son. It won't end well for you.

lol, sorry, forgot i was talking to tony stark over here.

[Vaughany]

lol "Doth your mother know you weareth her drapes?"

[Beelzebubzy]

What the hell happened here

Last time I read this thread someone sai rich gassed in round 2 of the Anderson fight and now wanna bet it is getting out lawyered by punisher

And why is gabe selling white castles? F work, they block sbr on my computer and now I'll actually have to do real work and I can't keep up with all of this troll drama

[PunisherIND]

Greater counter points. I'm sure your approach is highly effective in court as well.

Step 1: Make a bogus analogy.
Step 2: Get countered with clear differences in the analogy.
Step 3: Respond with insults instead of a counter that proves your analogy was correct.

How many billable hours of research did that take you?

You don't want to enter my world, son. It won't end well for you.

seriously though, the reason i'm not going to debate you is because you clearly missed the point i was making. also, im just not as dedicated to getting into cyber wars are you are. that much i will give you credit for. after all, you took the luca fued across multiple social media outlets: sherdog, SBR, twitter (am i missing anything?) that shows a real dedication which i certainly would not be able to match.

lets just recap the people that wannabet has flamed in the last 12 hours:

1) crippler - if you had stopped here, you probably would have saved your character. your intelligence would still have been in question, but at least you would have had your character.
2) dublin - the guy was just trying to save you from further embarassment vis-a-vis the +EV discussion. i know he's new here, but he seems pretty chill. and even you would agree that he isnt advocating crippler's side of the argument simply to troll you.
3) vaughany - just because he's laughed at a few of crippler's jokes
4) that lurker guy - all he said was he thought vaughany was as trustworthy as they come (an opinion that 95% on this board would likely agree with).

[Vaughany]

5) PunisherIND - for God knows what?!

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I didn't flame Vaughany. I really respect the guy for his MMA knowledge. I just don't trust my money being shipped over the pond to him when there are better escrow options and when DFC is specifically pushing that option and that option alone. If it smells fishy, it's probably a raw deal.

[DeFactoCrippler]

seriously though, the reason i'm not going to debate you is because you clearly missed the point i was making. also, im just not as dedicated to getting into cyber wars are you are. that much i will give you credit for. after all, you took the luca fued across multiple social media outlets: sherdog, SBR, twitter (am i missing anything?) that shows a real dedication which i certainly would not be able to match.

lets just recap the people that wannabet has flamed in the last 12 hours:

1) crippler - if you had stopped here, you probably would have saved your character. your intelligence would still have been in question, but at least you would have had your character.
2) dublin - the guy was just trying to save you from further embarassment vis-a-vis the +EV discussion. i know he's new here, but he seems pretty chill. and even you would agree that he isnt advocating crippler's side of the argument simply to troll you.
3) vaughany - just because he's laughed at a few of crippler's jokes
4) that lurker guy - all he said was he thought vaughany was as trustworthy as they come (an opinion that 95% on this board would likely agree with).

Not to mention he challenged me to a "pissing contest" but all he wanted to do was hold his little pecker and make the sound "pssssssssssssssssss" instead of actually urinating because he can't go when other people are watching.

[Vaughany]

I didn't flame Vaughany. I really respect the guy for his MMA knowledge. I just don't trust my money being shipped over the pond to him when there are better escrow options and when DFC is specifically pushing that option and that option alone. If it smells fishy, it's probably a raw deal.

Fair enough, doubt I'd send money to a random dude on a gambling forum from a different country either. But wasnt Defacto saying he was just gonna send money?

[DeFactoCrippler]

I didn't flame Vaughany. I really respect the guy for his MMA knowledge. I just don't trust my money being shipped over the pond to him when there are better escrow options

1. I have no idea who that guy is, and quite frankly I would be HUMILIATED if we brought this matter to him. I know you wouldn't be because you are able to make those videos and still show your face...oh wait.

2. You're not sending anything "over the pond". It would either be paypal or an escrow service and THEY monitor the safety of the transaction (I would even be willing to pay extra for this myself).

3. You questioned his INTEGRITY merely because he laughed at a joke of mine. Then you accused me of being him, then backed off and jus said there was something "fishy" going on. Ok.

4. You are a pussy, a complete phaget, and you know nothing about handicapping you are just and MMA fanboy throwing darts. Everybody knows it. The only other person who will agree with you here is fosho14. Who is such a desperate and pathetic fool he will try and pretend that I do not even watch MMA, despite the sheer lunacy of the claim. He also has no idea what a +EV bet is. The two of you are made for eachother, like a pair of battered wives, lol

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Fair enough, doubt I'd send money to a random dude on a gambling forum from a different country either. But wasnt Defacto saying he was just gonna send money?

$1000 (or $400 as he has reneged) will go to an intermediary, not directly to me. Think about it: Why should he be so picky about where his cash is being sent to if it's only cash being sent by him and none received from me? Van1ty is as reliable a community member as any. He also bets thousands on fights and has a very successful public track record; he doesn't give a shit about ripping you off your $1000 while it's being held.

I'm asking for a person who is respected in the MMA betting community (like yourself) who also posts their name/contact info and is a more local option to be the intermediary.

As I see it, as a man of my word I still have to hold up my end of the bargain while I have no guarantee that I ever see the money from DFC once I win with the options he's trying to force upon me. Sounds like a raw deal to me.

[Vaughany]

$1000 (or $400 as he has reneged) will go to an intermediary, not directly to me. Think about it: Why should he be so picky about where his cash is being sent to if it's only cash being sent by him and none received from me? Van1ty is as reliable a community member as any. He also bets thousands on fights and has a very successful public track record; he doesn't give a shit about ripping you off your $1000 while it's being held.

I'm asking for a person who is respected in the MMA betting community (like yourself) who also posts their name/contact info and is a more local option to be the intermediary.

As I see it, as a man of my word I still have to hold up my end of the bargain while I have no guarantee that I ever see the money from DFC once I win with the options he's trying to force upon me. Sounds like a raw deal to me.

Well, Van1ty probably has no idea about this whole thing so would be a bit different for Defacto as he'd have to be like "Oh hello, can u be our escrow in order to settle our dispute...I'll send u $1000" and Van1ty would probably think what the hell is this! But if ur not sending any money anywhere then what do u stand to lose?

[DeFactoCrippler]

As I see it, as a man of my word I still have to hold up my end of the bargain while I have no guarantee that I ever see the money from DFC once I win with the options he's trying to force upon me. Sounds like a raw deal to me.

Do you honestly expect anyone to believe this, you are a pathetic little boy. You REFUSED A SIG BET because I may put something "crude" if I win. You will find ANY EXCUSE not to put ANYTHING OF VALUE on this little "contest". Not even a "crude sig" on an online forum. What you don't want to risk your entire "signature bankroll' on one play?

Are you serious? Most pathetic display I have ever seen in my life.

[PunisherIND]

5) PunisherIND - for God knows what?!

Lol, maybe this is a natural consequence when there are no zuffa fights in a weekend? Dudes start going crazy and shit.

[DeFactoCrippler]

Do you honestly expect anyone to believe this, you are a pathetic little boy. You REFUSED A SIG BET because I may put something "crude" if I win. You will find ANY EXCUSE not to put ANYTHING OF VALUE on this little "contest". Not even a "crude sig" on an online forum. What you don't want to risk your entire "signature bankroll' on one play?

Are you serious? Most pathetic display I have ever seen in my life.

Plus you were the one who initiated the sig bet in the first place. Where's my council at on this one?