Wanna Bet's Play of the Week Volume IV: Wanderlei Silva vs Rich Franklin

**Wanna Bet On It?** · 06-14-12, 01:14 PM

DeFaggo Cumdrinker, I liked you better when you were Sideloaded. At least then you would occasionally post leans that would expose your stupidity like how Carlos Condit fought a career of cans and had zero shot versus Nick Diaz.

Now you don't post any insight or plays whatsoever and simply criticize, hate and troll on more successful gamblers... Have no fear, while some may not recognize you or remember your stupidity, I will never forget it.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-14-12, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by Wanna Bet On It?

DeFaggo Cumdrinker, I liked you better when you were Sideloaded.

Lol, vaughany can you tell me why everyone thinks I'm this sideloaded guy?

Now you don't post any insight or plays whatsoever and simply criticize, hate and troll on more successful gamblers...

Actually I do all the time. OBJECTIVE posters recognize this and comment on it (inb4 fosho14). I just don't put on a mask and do a little drama skit to go along with them, so you might not notice.

It's funny how you want everyone to jerk you off when you win (once) but you can't take the criticism when you lose. You even blamed Jim Miller for the loss because he didn't follow the little game plan you laid out for him in your video, lol.

**scofflaw** · 06-14-12, 01:42 PM

Nearly every thread lately has degenerated into stupid arguments that are hardly (or not at all) related to mma betting. I have to wade through so much trash to find a post worth reading. Great job everybody

**Grabaka** · 06-14-12, 01:43 PM

I like Defacto. Hes good attrolling and has good argument when he does talk about the fights.
I dont agree with him on "how to be a succesful capper" but who cares. As long as i make dough im happy and he can help just like any other capper here.

**gabe** · 06-14-12, 01:43 PM

Nate Diaz at plus money against Jim Miller was EASY $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by scofflaw

Nearly every thread lately has degenerated into stupid arguments that are hardly (or not at all) related to mma betting. I have to wade through so much trash to find a post worth reading. Great job everybody

I know it's so annoying...I want to read about topical mma related conversation not some keyboard warrior named cripplers mindless time wasting filth. De-phaggot get the hell out of this forum everybody has admitted that you are a troll at some point or another. You have no life other than trolling a sports betting forum and not offering any valuable insight or beneficial mma discussion whatsoever ever. Biggest zero on here by far, so f'ing sad.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-14-12, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by fosho14

I know it's so annoying...I want to read about topical mma related conversation not some keyboard warrior named cripplers mindless time wasting filth. De-phaggot get the hell out of this forum everybody has admitted that you are a troll at some point or another. You have no life other than trolling a sports betting forum and not offering any valuable insight or beneficial mma discussion whatsoever ever. Biggest zero on here by far, so f'ing sad.

inafter fosho14

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

inafter fosho14

Everyone has admitted you are a troll, why do you enjoy getting repeatedly embarassed lol. Keep making a fool out of yourself and offering this community absolutely nothing of value de-phaggot...

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-14-12, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by fosho14

Everyone has admitted you are a troll, why do you enjoy getting repeatedly embarassed lol. Keep making a fool out of yourself and offering this community absolutely nothing of value de-phaggot...

You must be a child because you are so delusional. Even someone a few posts above clearly said I offer value, just like they did before. All it takes is 20 mins from when I post and you appear to cry about it. If I was a troll, then I would be very successful.

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

You must be a child because you are so delusional. Even someone a few posts above clearly said I offer value, just like they did before. All it takes is 20 mins from when I post and you appear to cry about it. If I was a troll, then I would be very successful.

Are you referring to the post that called you a troll lol? Stop talking de-phaggot.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-14-12, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by fosho14

Are you referring to the post that called you a troll lol? Stop talking de-phaggot.

I'm not going to deny that I troll certain people like you, but I offer value by talking about fights as well which numerous people have cited. Posters like Vaughany have said it directly to you (in this thread even). The only people that complain about me trolling are the ones getting trolled, others just find it funny, although you can keep pretending they don't if it makes you feel better.

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

I'm not going to deny that I troll certain people like you, but I offer value by talking about fights as well which numerous people have cited. Posters like Vaughany have said it directly to you (in this thread even). The only people that complain about me trolling are the ones getting trolled, others just find it funny, although you can keep pretending they don't if it makes you feel better.

nope wrong again, everyone has called you a troll not just me and your either too much of crack head or to stupid to realize this (I'm going with the latter). I love how you nominated a post in which someone called you a troll. If that's something your proud of, then Bravo De-faggo nice work.

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 02:22 PM

I know you love wasting your life being a keyboard warrior, so I'm sure you'd have no problem spending time pouring through your own posts to see how many ppl have called you a troll (not just me). Maybe you'll wake the Fu*k up and realize how idiotic your sounding. I'll let that sink into your thick noggin for a lil while. Late.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-14-12, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

he likes to get a reaction out of people but also offers some insight so isnt a true "troll"!

/thread

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Yes Defacto trolls a lot

Are you mentally handicapped? Your bringing up an example of one person who's nuts you are constantly hanging from that tried to soften their original statement of calling you a troll because they felt sorry for you because of how much you get shit on here on a daily basis. most sad of all is you seem to worship this Vaughany dude lol. The majority of the ppl on this forum have called you a troll at some point on this board. That was my statement to you and that's not a good sign de-phaggo. /thread

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-14-12, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by fosho14

Are you mentally handicapped? Your bringing up an example of one person who's nuts you are constantly hanging from that went back on their original word of calling you a troll because they felt sorry for you because of how much you get shit on here on a daily basis. most sad of all is you seem to worship this Vaughany dude lol. The majority of the ppl on this forum have called you a troll at some point on this board. That was my statement to you and that's not a good sign de-phaggo. /thread

They didn't go "back on their word' they corrected you when you were deliberately misunderstanding them. NUMEROUS other people come forward to say I offer value and you ignore them.

you are a child.

/thread

hail vaughany

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

They didn't go "back on their word' they corrected you when you were deliberately misunderstanding them. NUMEROUS other people come forward to say I offer value and you ignore them.

you are a child.

/thread

hail vaughany

what is there to correct? ppl are calling you a T-R-O-L-L and you can't even refute it!! Go look up what that means, that's exactly what you are.

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 02:50 PM

stop trying to justify things by saying your a good troll or what ever it is your trying to allude to

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-14-12, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by fosho14

what is there to correct? ppl are calling you a T-R-O-L-L and you can't deny it. Go look up what that means, that's exactly what you are.

Funny thing is people say I STILL ADD VAUE. I never heard that about you. Unless you consider stroking rooster as "adding value". You detract value from this forum with your whining and ridiculous advice telling people not to make +EV plays.

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

Funny thing is people say I add STILL ADD VAUE. I never heard that about you. Unless you consider stroking rooster as "adding value". You detract value from this forum with your whining and ridiculous advice telling people not to make +EV plays.

I never ever said that you filthy troll. go away, you got owned, you've now stopped relevantly responding to my points against you because you have none. Don't remember the last time I destroyed someone this bad lol.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-14-12, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by fosho14

I never ever said that you filthy troll. go away, you got owned, you've now stopped relevantly responding to my points against you because you have none. Don't remember the last time I destroyed someone this bad lol.

lol watch me prove it phaget, you don't even know what +EV means.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-14-12, 03:05 PM

Here is where you "destroyed" me before. Christ.

Originally posted by fosho14

This is a do not bet fight unless your into throwing your money around on random shit for entertainment purposes or fun. I don't see the difference between throwing your money on red or black at a roulett table to this? Struve gets hit a lot and can very likely crumble at the hands of Lavar's power, and at the very same time Lavar can get subbed within seconds of this fight touching the floor. If your into unpredictable uncalculated risk, than bet on this fight boys, GL.

Originally posted by fosho14

Ya most of struve's fights just somehow end up on the ground, but he very rarely takes it there through his own will. Yet another reason why this is a completely 50/50 fight, why would anyone bet on this?

Here is where you explain that struve or johnson is a "no bet" because it is 50/50. And ask "Why would anyone bet this".

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Because you can get better than +101.

Nunya then explains that you could get either fighter at better than +101. Making the play "+EV"

Originally posted by fosho14

It's still not worth the risk to me. I see what your saying though. GL.

Here is where you stick to your original position while claiming to "understand" when you clearly don't.

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

The poster was saying the fight was 50/50 (i.e both fighters at +100) so this would deem it a "no bet". But Nunya pointed out that you get could get a fighter for + money which would make your bet +EV because you are getting a fighter you capped at +100 odds at +120 odds, so why in the fock would that be a wrong bet?

The poster saying the bet was wrong likened it to betting red or black on a roulette wheel. It is obviously different because you don't get +120 on red or black, lol. If you did the casino would be out of business very quickly.

Here I further explain preceicely why you are a moron for asking "why would anybody make a +EV bet". I still don't think you understand.

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

lol watch me prove it phaget, you don't even know what +EV means.

you really have no life do you?

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 03:10 PM

I never said "why would anyone make a +EV bet" you piece of shit troll. I was insinuating that the odds weren't good enough either way for ME to bet on Struve or Lavar. And I'm very happy that I didn't.

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 03:11 PM

I have my own risk profile idiot. This isn't my main source of income

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-14-12, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by fosho14

I never said "why would anyone make a +EV bet" you piece of shit troll. I was insinuating that the odds weren't good enough either way for ME to bet on Struve or Lavar. And I'm very happy that I didn't.

Yes, well your advice was ridiculous because are leaving money on the table by not making ANY +EV play. Maybe someone who understands handicapping can explain it to you. I have seen Nunya try many times and fail.

If you do not understand the fundamentals of handicapping maybe you should not be giving out advice?

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 03:23 PM

Here let me give you a quick example you inbred junkie. If I think the upcoming bout between munoz and weidman is a 50/50 fight, OBVIOUSLY WE ALL KNOW that there is +EV for mark munoz at +115. Does that mean that I'm gonna go and bet it or jump on every-single +115 line that I think is a coin flip fight. NOOOO! These are not expert gambling fundamentals you crack head. There's not enough value, in my eyes. Crawl back into your shit hole little crippler.

You are a disgrace to the human race. I can just envision you snorting meth in some slum right now judging by your mental capacity and behavior on this forum. Feel very sorry for your poor misguided soul. Go find something constructive to do, please.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-14-12, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by fosho14

Here let me give you a quick example you inbred junkie. If I think the upcoming bout between munoz and weidman is a 50/50 fight, OBVIOUSLY WE ALL KNOW that there is +EV for mark munoz at +115. Does that mean that I'm gonna go and bet it or jump on every-single +115 line that I think is a coin flip fight. NOOOO! These are not expert gambling fundamentals you crack head. There's not enough value, in my eyes. Crawl back into your shit hole little crippler.

Just because you are too STUPID to realize how wrong you are doesn't mean you should shove your incorrect point of view down others throats.

You are a disgrace to the human race. I can just envision you snorting meth in some slum right now judging by your mental capacity and behavior on this forum. Feel very sorry for your poor misguided soul. Go find something constructive to do, please.

Others like Crassus learned from me correcting you. Even if you learned nothing yourself.

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 03:28 PM

by the way this Nunya guy that you are also sucking off and keep referencing has also continually and repeatedly called you a troll. This is too funny, the irony is off the charts. I didn't think there were losers this pathetic in the world, you proved me wrong

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-14-12, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by fosho14

Here let me give you a quick example you inbred junkie. If I think the upcoming bout between munoz and weidman is a 50/50 fight, OBVIOUSLY WE ALL KNOW that there is +EV for mark munoz at +115. Does that mean that I'm gonna go and bet it or jump on every-single +115 line that I think is a coin flip fight. NOOOO! These are not expert gambling fundamentals you crack head. There's not enough value, in my eyes. Crawl back into your shit hole little crippler.

So in other words 15 cents on the line is not enough value for you. So you are saying not to make +EV plays. Munoz would be a +EV play, and are saying not to make it.

But yet you never told anyone not to make a +EV play?

Jesus, you wonder why nobody supports you, you really are stupid, or just a pathetic liar.

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

So in other words 15 cents on the line is not enough value for you. So you are saying not to make +EV plays. Munoz would be a +EV play, and are saying not to make it.

But yet you never told anyone not to make a +EV play?

Jesus, you wonder why nobody supports you, you really are stupid, or just a pathetic liar.

simple words for you to process. Please learn to read. There are many many plays that have +EV. I don't play all of them,and I am not telling or advising anyone to do anything, just sharing my own belief. I am very selective about my plays when I feel there is enough +EV. This is a serious question and please answer honestly: Do you have fetal alcohol syndrome? What is wrong with you? Do you know how many fights come out available to bet. Your seriously sitting here telling me that I'm stupid because I like to be selective about my plays and pass on close lines/fights with apparent but minimal +EV? Your saying that I need to play every-single one no matter how tiny the +EV?

I make large wagers and don't bet on a lot of fights. I do a ridiculous amount of research and am very meticulous about finding spots with good value. This has been working for me.

Were you abused as a child little crippler? Your mind is not right, and your enjoying getting continually roasted, it's very strange...

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 04:03 PM

stop putting words into my mouth, and refer back to the post I just made.

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 04:11 PM

for example, Daniel Cormier vs Josh Barnett...I grabbed cormier as a dog, because I had no idea what the oddsmakers were thinking, he should have been a moderate-large favorite (in my mind)! I made a substantial wager on cormier based on my belief that there was significant +EV. Do you see the difference De-phaggo? If I bet on munoz at +115 there is still +EV but not as much as the aforementioned cormier example, so I choose to pass on Munoz even though +EV exists. Now please jump off a bridge, or overdose on meth like the crack head you are so I don't have to subject myself to your garbage.

**DeFactoCrippler** · 06-14-12, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by fosho14

Your seriously sitting here telling me that I'm stupid because I like to be selective about my plays and pass on close lines/fights with apparent but minimal +EV? Your saying that I need to play every-single one no matter how tiny the +EV?

Thats what Nunya tried to explain to you on numerous occasions. Yes, even for just 1 cent on the line. You advise people not to take 15 because you are a complete and total fool who knows nothing about handicapping. You can throw whatever insult you want at me and it won't change that.

If a play is +EV (by even the slightest amount) that means it's a WINNING PLAY IN THE LONG RUN. You are saying not to make a WINNING PLAY because of short term variance. Once again because you are a sheer imbecile.

**fosho14** · 06-14-12, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

Thats what Nunya tried to explain to you on numerous occasions. Yes, even for just 1 cent on the line. You advise people not to take 15 because you are a complete and total fool who knows nothing about handicapping. You can throw whatever insult you want at me and it won't change that.

If a play is +EV (by even the slightest amount) that means it's a WINNING PLAY IN THE LONG RUN. You are saying not to make a WINNING PLAY because of short term variance. Once again because you are a sheer imbecile.

no idiot, I'm not saying that. I'm saying I don't personally bet everysingle line like that, I'm selective about finding value. I'm not telling anyone to do anything like you keep saying, and I don't know why you keep mindlessly repeating yourself. Again, I'm not telling anyone to do anything. Go die, thanks.