what gabe says.

[fosho14]

The whole point is that it doesnt matter if you arb in the end or not. You still got a good bet meaning a bet that pays more than it should.

No that's the whole point I'm making, ppl will lose huge $ following V unless their glued to computers mimicking his last minute and last second arbs moments before fights and during fights and even if they do that there's still many many other variables that I have previously outlined. I am impressed with V's depth of knowledge so I was simply curious which plays he actually feels have value without arbitrage.

[Grabaka]

Well not me.

[NunyaBidness]

Do I need to explain what arbitrage is to you? You do realize that arbing is done best through being alerted by email/text msg don't you? You also realize that there are a variety of programs that can assist you with this making things much more effective and efficient compared to scrolling through a random persons thread on a board and timing things that way right?

Anyone doing serious arbitrage isn't getting text messages, they've automated the entire process, or at minimum outsourced it to India. Keep proving you don't know what you're talking about.

Anyone who's really serious about arbitrage quit arbing as soon as he understood it.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't what?

[Libert1ne]

I think Gabe cops way too much flak on this board.

He's good for what he does. If you want mathetmatical justification for his plays you're in the wrong thread. I think his leans are good and he's been a valuable resource for me when capping fights and making my plays.

Don't hate, appreciate

[NunyaBidness]

How about the glaring and obvious reality that it's not realistic. When he's switching bets 5 seconds before a fight or during the fight itself for miraculous units who the hell is sitting at their computer monitoring and copying that? I have to think that at least some of you like to watch this stuff with friends. This is supposed to be enjoyable as well, I can see BigDay has the right idea

If you're not trying to tail then what does it matter if he arbs out? If he's beating the market and you tail you win.

I don't find sports enjoyable at all. I don't know how anyone can watch any of it. I've never seen an entire game of anything, and wouldn't watch MMA/Boxing if I didn't bet on it.

If you guys are here for the enjoyment, make whatever stupid bets you want.

We must never forget that we are human, and as humans we dream, and when we dream, we dream of money. -- Mamet

Cash
Rules
Everything
Around
Me

[Libert1ne]

I don't find sports enjoyable at all.

If you guys are here for the enjoyment, make whatever stupid bets you want.

Hahahaha really?

Aren't there better ways to make money if you don't enjoy the sports at all?

For me it has a dual purpose; I get to enjoy watching the fights, & I get to profit off the fights.

If it was purely about making money I'd think there were better ways to make it, no? Maybe not... hahaha

[NunyaBidness]

Hahahaha really?

Aren't there better ways to make money if you don't enjoy the sports at all?

No better way for me. Gambling has been my main source of income for 13 years, and only source for 10 years. I played poker only for most of that time, but the passing of the UIGEA made the games worse and worse and I gradually went from dabbling in sportsbetting to doing it full time.

I don't need to watch any games to do what I'm doing. I watch tape for Boxing/MMA and some small market sports/props, otherwise I don't bother with it.

[gabe]

Im gonna repeat myself. "And please stop being so cocky with your picks. "This guy is gonna win no matter what price it is" route will take to ruin."
None of those were locks. How much confidence? any %?
You never know with the way you post. We dont know your betting amounts or units, what price would you give to the event itself. What good use can we give to that?

When I said Renan Barao over Scott Jorgensen and rated that play 5 out of 5 and you did not know how I felt about it, then feel free to slap yourself until you pass out.

[gabe]

What about Thompson against Brown? U had him in like every parlay so u must of been confident!

yeah, was pretty confident in a brown fade, but it wasn't a lock.

[gabe]

Ya, your confidence went so far out the window that after the weigh ins you decided to add more $$ on Rumble!

Somebody has never heard of the phrase "Go big or go home."

I was praying for a first round KO by Rumble

[gabe]

I think Gabe cops way too much flak on this board.

He's good for what he does. If you want mathetmatical justification for his plays you're in the wrong thread. I think his leans are good and he's been a valuable resource for me when capping fights and making my plays.

Don't hate, appreciate

Thanks, buddy.

[Grabaka]

I think Gabe cops way too much flak on this board.

He's good for what he does. If you want mathetmatical justification for his plays you're in the wrong thread. I think his leans are good and he's been a valuable resource for me when capping fights and making my plays.

Don't hate, appreciate

I can agree with that. Never said the opposite but its never bad to actually learn this numbers game.
Lets move on!

[Grabaka]

When I said Renan Barao over Scott Jorgensen and rated that play 5 out of 5 and you did not know how I felt about it, then feel free to slap yourself until you pass out.

I didnt understand that. What do you mean? I went big on Barao too. I dont get your post.

[gabe]

I didnt understand that. What do you mean? I went big on Barao too. I dont get your post.

My point is I had a rating system for my plays, so you knew how much I liked each one. 5/5 were my biggest plays, i.e. Barao>Jorgensen, Koscheck>Pierce

[fosho14]

Anyone doing serious arbitrage isn't getting text messages, they've automated the entire process

Ya your repeating what I have already mentioned you numb skull. I talked about automated computer systems.

[fosho14]

No better way for me. Gambling has been my main source of income for 13 years, and only source for 10 years. I played poker only for most of that time, but the passing of the UIGEA made the games worse and worse and I gradually went from dabbling in sportsbetting to doing it full time.

I don't need to watch any games to do what I'm doing. I watch tape for Boxing/MMA and some small market sports/props, otherwise I don't bother with it.

Nice life that you've created for yourself Nunya. Now I really do feel for you. I hope that your wife and children aren't withering and wasting away due to the steady diet of instant noodles and water your providing for them because it is clear you don't know wtf your talking about and certainly could never earn a profit let alone support yourself! This is your whole deal?... this is your life!?... gambling on things that you don't enjoy LOL that's hysterical for me to hear (but an awful existence for you). You can barely get through a conservation that is supposedly related to your "primary occupation". Correction* not barely.. you can't. So things are not looking good right now for the likes of Nunya.

I threw you a softie but you swung at air repeatedly and failed. You've struck out miserably and now your done...sit down and scurry back to the mcdonalds drive thru where you actually earn what little money you have.

And enough with your corny cliche idioms that you keep tagging all your posts with, you are just convincing me more and more of how much a loser you are. But since you like them so much maybe I have no choice and maybe that's the only way I can communicate with you or get you to comprehend or interpret information because I've relentlessly tried everything else and you've been far too thick to even come close to discerning anything. I don't have any more time to waste with a knucklehead who can't decipher something that has been attempted to be explained to him repeatedly over and over and over again.

- a leopard can't change his spots

[GigaOuts]

No better way for me. Gambling has been my main source of income for 13 years, and only source for 10 years. I played poker only for most of that time, but the passing of the UIGEA made the games worse and worse and I gradually went from dabbling in sportsbetting to doing it full time.

I don't need to watch any games to do what I'm doing. I watch tape for Boxing/MMA and some small market sports/props, otherwise I don't bother with it.

Really? Cool I came from poker too, been doing for 8yrs. Poker is matured I think, I have trouble making 2g now. I start mma wagering by almost accidental. I run well in mma, many mma friend stop betting with me because I keeping taking $10-20 from them. I was being pretty fair too, I cap the fight without looking at the online odd and they pick the fighter. After everyone refuse to bet with me I bet online, not really familiar with online wagering. Saw 1 fight I know both fighter so well Jake vs Jake, didn't even have to analysis the fight. The fight just play out in my head for some reason, so I put in a massive bet $50 to win $70 on Ellenburger. The fight when exactly how I envision it. I was so happy I am speechless winning the $70 (3 free sushi dinner...woooopeee).

me: I told you so, so many fight I can pick the winner.
wife: you are idiot, you right so many time, why don't you bet like $500.
me: I light bulb in my head turn on.

Next event was Diaz vs Penn. I didn't have to analysis the fight, the fight automatically play out in my head. I have $500 on Diaz, and $300 more when I saw the weight in. But when I was watching the fight I have trouble breathing, almost have a heart attach when BJ Penn have Diaz back. Now I won't/can't even watch the fight if I have over $500 on it, I like to read line by line on Play by Play...lol.

6 months later, I am up 15g+ really happy to find mma wagering. But like poker, early success proof nothing, you need 3-5yrs live poker experience to find out if you can hack it or not. If I can build my bankroll up to 50g online than I will feel confidence I can do this for a living.

[getlucky2win]

well who do u pros have winning their fights this week?

[NunyaBidness]

Nice life that you've created for yourself Nunya. Now I really do feel for you. I hope that your wife and children aren't withering and wasting away due to the steady diet of instant noodles and water your providing for them because it is clear you don't know wtf your talking about and certainly could never earn a profit let alone support yourself! This is your whole deal?... this is your life!?... gambling on things that you don't enjoy LOL that's hysterical for me to hear (but an awful existence for you). You can barely get through a conservation that is supposedly related to your "primary occupation". Correction* not barely.. you can't. So things are not looking good right now for the likes of Nunya.

My child support is more than your whole paycheck, bitch. And 3 of your apartments could fit inside my house.

Also, please quit begging me for picks by PM, don't you realize I'm not going to respond to you?

"Hi there. By looking at your threads and posts it is clear that you really break down and analyze fights objectively and intelligently and I appreciate that. It's hard to come by these days, and really exhausting trying to filter through all the thoughtless posts on so many forums.
I was wondering if I could ask you your attitudes directly because it can be a bit disorganized scanning through these threads with everyone having a different opinion. What are your most confident/big money plays so far on this ufc on fuel 2 card and the upcoming ufc 145 event (if you've capped that yet)?


Thanks so much for the time"

[NunyaBidness]

Really? Cool I came from poker too, been doing for 8yrs. Poker is matured I think, I have trouble making 2g now. I start mma wagering by almost accidental. I run well in mma, many mma friend stop betting with me because I keeping taking $10-20 from them. I was being pretty fair too, I cap the fight without looking at the online odd and they pick the fighter. After everyone refuse to bet with me I bet online, not really familiar with online wagering. Saw 1 fight I know both fighter so well Jake vs Jake, didn't even have to analysis the fight. The fight just play out in my head for some reason, so I put in a massive bet $50 to win $70 on Ellenburger. The fight when exactly how I envision it. I was so happy I am speechless winning the $70 (3 free sushi dinner...woooopeee).

me: I told you so, so many fight I can pick the winner.
wife: you are idiot, you right so many time, why don't you bet like $500.
me: I light bulb in my head turn on.

Next event was Diaz vs Penn. I didn't have to analysis the fight, the fight automatically play out in my head. I have $500 on Diaz, and $300 more when I saw the weight in. But when I was watching the fight I have trouble breathing, almost have a heart attach when BJ Penn have Diaz back. Now I won't/can't even watch the fight if I have over $500 on it, I like to read line by line on Play by Play...lol.

6 months later, I am up 15g+ really happy to find mma wagering. But like poker, early success proof nothing, you need 3-5yrs live poker experience to find out if you can hack it or not. If I can build my bankroll up to 50g online than I will feel confidence I can do this for a living.

Congrats! Variance is way higher in sportsbetting than in poker. If you were multi-tabling in poker with serious volume you can state for certain if you're a winning player within a few months. In MMA, I think you're right about the time frame and bankroll requirements. Profitability is only going to drop down, however, as limits rise and the market gets more efficient.

Are you playing any WSOP events next month?

[Beelzebubzy]

My child support is more than your whole paycheck, bitch. And 3 of your apartments could fit inside my house.

Also, please quit begging me for picks by PM, don't you realize I'm not going to respond to you?

"Hi there. By looking at your threads and posts it is clear that you really break down and analyze fights objectively and intelligently and I appreciate that. It's hard to come by these days, and really exhausting trying to filter through all the thoughtless posts on so many forums.
I was wondering if I could ask you your attitudes directly because it can be a bit disorganized scanning through these threads with everyone having a different opinion. What are your most confident/big money plays so far on this ufc on fuel 2 card and the upcoming ufc 145 event (if you've capped that yet)?


Thanks so much for the time"

haha I got that too. Same exact message.

Laziness I tell you. You could have atleast changed it a little or added our names.

[NunyaBidness]

He probably has some sort of system where he counts up how many posters are picking A > B and then bets that one. See, he's not blindly tailing!

[NunyaBidness]

Laziness I tell you. You could have atleast changed it a little or added our names.

...

[the josh]

i got the same message, and i suck dick

[Rubber Guard]

We sure do have a nice representation of goofballs who post here.

[helpplease]

and the build up to the 20k bet begins.
Countdown to June:20 days
There are 4 UFC events, which one will it be
TUF Finale +800
UFC on FX:Johnson vs Mcall +400
UFC on FX: Guida vs Maynard +200
UFC 147 - -300

just wait and see bro , gonna make $20,000 in profits that night at least if not more .. fk gonna be shaking like a mother fker though lol I got 3 picks I am really sure of for the event I am looking at .. won't say which one .. will post pic of bets though a few min before the event starts

[cheeese]

If you're going to do it in this thread it is customary to share afterwards.

[fosho14]

Ya I sent everyone that message, because of how disorganized the threads are

[DeFactoCrippler]

Ya I sent everyone that message, because of how disorganized the threads are

So, in other words, you are a chooch who goes around begging people for picks?

[fosho14]

So, in other words, you are a chooch who goes around begging people for picks?

Yes I like knowing what ppls inclinations are with bouts. Mainly reasons why they are choosing so and so. Then I make my own decisions. Whats wrong with that? The last UFC fox 3 was the only event I've lost money on in recent or even distant memory. Considering I do this as a hobby on the side because I enjoy it, I don't see what the problem is?

[gabe]

My picks for tonights TUF live were James Vick and Michael Chiesa... so pissed at myself for not betting.

Had one play today: Clippers 2nd half -- cashed it.

[getlucky2win]

i hit a 10 teamer 2day

[GigaOuts]

Congrats! Variance is way higher in sportsbetting than in poker. If you were multi-tabling in poker with serious volume you can state for certain if you're a winning player within a few months. In MMA, I think you're right about the time frame and bankroll requirements. Profitability is only going to drop down, however, as limits rise and the market gets more efficient.

Are you playing any WSOP events next month?

Last post, don't want to derail this thread...lol
I never been to WSOP, I am not a big gambler. I grind 100nl-200nl during poker boom, than down to 25nl-50nl online playing around 9 tables when the fishes dissappeared. I am new to mma wager, but I thinking we in the boom phase so it should be easy to make $$$. There is so many young smart poker player in the world, if they ever migrate here we are all F*CK.

What takes longer to know if you can hack it, live poker or mma wagering? And how long you need to be doing it where you are 100% sure you can hack mma wager? What other sport betting you find that is soft if you don't mind sharing?

Peace.

[gabe]

mmacore and mmageeks seem to be dead sites, where can i watch tuf live and fights from ufc on fox 3?

[the josh]

mmaversus.com