what gabe says.

**gabe** · 05-08-12, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

1) You used to categorize on mega plays/ super plays/picks/posts/and locks -

2) Definetely do not think this is true. V has picked more successful dogs (Neer over Ludwig, Condit over Diaz, Brown over Thompson are ones I recall over recent memory. From what I know of your picks, your breakdowns are somehting like this

One thing for sure about tomorrow, though... EL CUCUY IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!

Tony Ferguson, baby. I'm taking this big. Michael Johnson looks confident and ready to upset, but El Cucuy is El Cucuy, so fuggedaboudit.

No, V hasn't picked more successful dogs, your recent memory is failing you lol--- and yeah, i post my breakdowns the way i post 'em, depending on my mood and how much time i've got, but i always get the point across. i was right about the el cucuy prediction. johnson looked like he was gonna take it, i just expected el cucuy to take the decision. i won a lot by betting the over 2.5 on that fight.

i don't really care about sharing my insight on here--- i used to a while ago, but you guys (esecially nunya, other shit talkers) made me not wanna share here anywhere, so i'm not as into it as i once was... i still throw my thoughts on here, but not the way you or i would want to... lavar and nate diaz ended up being big plays for me, but i didnt bother mentioning here... didn't bother mentioning the prop bets either, as i used to do all the time...

**NunyaBidness** · 05-08-12, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by gabe

Wow, Nunya has nothing negative to say about my video? He just highlighted the fact that I said not all the laughs were caught with the iphone? (still obvious i killed, the way it is!) That's all??? lollll weak

Wow, douchebag much? I quoted your entire post and gave you a 'cheers' emoticon. Knock the chip off your shoulder.

**Vaughany** · 05-08-12, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by DeFactoCrippler

Haha Apparently Ferguson got drunk and started abusing Jeremy Stephens as well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmvRSCB5S60

**Vaughany** · 05-08-12, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Wow, douchebag much? I quoted your entire post and gave you a 'cheers' emoticon. Knock the chip off your shoulder.

Largest chip in the West!

**DirtyX** · 05-08-12, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by gabe

No, V hasn't picked more successful dogs, your recent memory is failing you lol--- and yeah, i post my breakdowns the way i post 'em, depending on my mood and how much time i've got, but i always get the point across. i was right about the el cucuy prediction. johnson looked like he was gonna take it, i just expected el cucuy to take the decision. i won a lot by betting the over 2.5 on that fight.

i don't really care about sharing my insight on here--- i used to a while ago, but you guys (esecially nunya, other shit talkers) made me not wanna share here anywhere, so i'm not as into it as i once was... i still throw my thoughts on here, but not the way you or i would want to... lavar and nate diaz ended up being big plays for me, but i didnt bother mentioning here... didn't bother mentioning the prop bets either, as i used to do all the time...

I love how you keep trying to sell us on how you have better picks than V. You are green with envy and jealously and it is obvious. Take notice how V. never goes on and on about how great he is, other people just notice, and give him props. You on the otherhand, keep sucking on your own dick, giving yourself props, instead of others noticing your skills, and giving you props. You are making yourself look like an ass.

Relax bra, we believe you... You are the greatest capper for MMA that the world has ever seen!

Nobody "cares" about you posting your insight on here. I am sorry that Nunya and myself made you get all bitter beer face, but just so you know, NOBODY gives two shits about your bets or your picks. Quit feeling sorry for yourself, and don't bother mentioning your two-sense on this forum. You lie on half of your bets anyways, so I know for myself, I consider all your supposed wins as suspect because you constantly contradict yourself. Just stop. Thank you.

**DirtyX** · 05-08-12, 04:13 PM

So sick of this clown. Reminds me of Sherdog.

**fosho14** · 05-08-12, 07:16 PM

Gabe please post your claims before the fights, not after and if you wanna post "I told you so" type comments after then at least make sure there is some sort of evidence to substantiate that you had such predictions! Otherwise, I agree it's just irritating. You have a bad habit of doing this which seems to be angering everyone. Not sure if you care at this point, but those are the facts.

**gabe** · 05-08-12, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Wow, douchebag much? I quoted your entire post and gave you a 'cheers' emoticon. Knock the chip off your shoulder.

You didn't quote my entire post, you highlighted the part where I said the iphone didn't capture all of the laughter and included the emoticon with that.

**gabe** · 05-08-12, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by fosho14

Gabe please post your claims before the fights, not after and if you wanna post "I told you so" type comments after then at least make sure there is some sort of evidence to substantiate that you had such predictions! Otherwise, I agree it's just irritating. You have a bad habit of doing this which seems to be angering everyone. Not sure if you care at this point, but those are the facts.

WTF? Which fights did I say I had picked that I hadn't mentioned before??? You said I have a bad habit of doing that, so please give me your list!

Also, you are sending me private messages complimenting me, but won't say anything on my behalf here and are using bullshit to attack me? I never say I had a pick that wasn't mentioned on here... fk off. two face.

**NunyaBidness** · 05-09-12, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by gabe

You didn't quote my entire post, you highlighted the part where I said the iphone didn't capture all of the laughter and included the emoticon with that.

Goddamn, you're ******* stupid. Look back at post 796 and see that I quoted the entire thing. I accept your apology.

**Vaughany** · 05-09-12, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by gabe

WTF? Which fights did I say I had picked that I hadn't mentioned before??? You said I have a bad habit of doing that, so please give me your list!

Also, you are sending me private messages complimenting me, but won't say anything on my behalf here and are using bullshit to attack me? I never say I had a pick that wasn't mentioned on here... fk off. two face.

THey are probably referring to your Over 2.5 on Ferguson/Johnson which was never mentioned before, and Belcher/Palhares Under 2.5 tht wasnt mentioned before. Bare in mind tht not everybody knows what u mean by "pick"

**NunyaBidness** · 05-09-12, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

THey are probably referring to you're Over 2.5 on Ferguson/Johnson which was never mentioned before, and Belcher/Palhares Under 2.5 tht wasnt mentioned before. Bare in mind tht not everybody knows what u mean by "pick"

I'm not sure he does either.

**Vaughany** · 05-09-12, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I'm not sure he does either.

"God damn it u idiot...lol everybody knows a picks is something I'm betting on and a play is one where I recommend u play but I personally dont play until after the fight happens! lol Couldnt be more simple u idiot! lol "

**Beelzebubzy** · 05-09-12, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I'm not sure he does either.

Eggsactly

**Beelzebubzy** · 05-09-12, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

"God damn it u idiot...lol everybody knows a picks is something I'm betting on and a play is one where recommends u play but I personally dont play until after the fight happens! lol Couldnt be more simple u idiot! lol "

You forgot Lock, MONSTER Lock and L

CKs

**gabe** · 05-09-12, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Goddamn, you're ******* stupid. Look back at post 796 and see that I quoted the entire thing. I accept your apology.

you're right. my bad, i thought i had written more than that lol

it's what v highlighted, so i figured you were adding to it

**gabe** · 05-09-12, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

THey are probably referring to your Over 2.5 on Ferguson/Johnson which was never mentioned before, and Belcher/Palhares Under 2.5 tht wasnt mentioned before. Bare in mind tht not everybody knows what u mean by "pick"

Pick = who I believe is going to win.

If that isn't obvious, then I'm sorry for you.

Like I said, I'm not as into posting here as I used to be. If your memory wouldn't fail you, you would recall that (in the last page) I said I haven't even cared to include prop picks and stuff like that. I think most of you are two-faced shit heads. Like fosho and beezlebubby. Make me sick. Appreciate what you get from me when you get it, I'm not gonna go out of my way to do write-ups and shit like I used to do. If I have the time, I'll come and give some quick picks, but that's it. I just don't like the people on this board. They kiss your ass when you don't even give out proper picks. I've lost money tailing fighters you were risking a lot of units on, only to find out you were also betting against them, after the fact. Your bets only help yourself. You're better off posting them in a private journal than on a public forum. I'd suggest you use your thread only to post bets you think are going to cash. People come here to get an idea of what bets to make, not to get confused.

**DirtyX** · 05-09-12, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by gabe

Pick = who I believe is going to win.

If that isn't obvious, then I'm sorry for you.

Like I said, I'm not as into posting here as I used to be. If your memory wouldn't fail you, you would recall that (in the last page) I said I haven't even cared to include prop picks and stuff like that. I think most of you are two-faced shit heads. Like fosho and beezlebubby. Make me sick. Appreciate what you get from me when you get it, I'm not gonna go out of my way to do write-ups and shit like I used to do. If I have the time, I'll come and give some quick picks, but that's it. I just don't like the people on this board. They kiss your ass when you don't even give out proper picks. I've lost money tailing fighters you were risking a lot of units on, only to find out you were also betting against them, after the fact. Your bets only help yourself. You're better off posting them in a private journal than on a public forum. I'd suggest you use your thread only to post bets you think are going to cash. People come here to get an idea of what bets to make, not to get confused.

Somebody sounds angry,... HAHA

Nobody appreicates or gives two shits about your stupid half-ass insight. GABE = douchebag of the board... Get a life and stop bitching, you sound like a little girl who lost her girl scout cookies... GTFO!

**gabe** · 05-09-12, 03:50 PM

The past couple events, I had to go out of my way to give my picks... and I only did it because so many of you were messaging me and asking for my picks.

I probably won't have the time and if I do, I likely won't even feel like posting 'em-- so don't message me anymore.

All I did here is mention how ridiculous it was that I get over-looked, and I got a bunch of shit in return. If any of you can't acknowledge the fact that a very high percentage of fighters I've stood behind on this board have won, then you've got your heads up your asses. I would say a higher % than V's, but you never really know which fighter he's backing, 'cos he's got money on both sides.

I'm feeling confident I won't be posting my picks here anymore, especially not with all this hate and disrespect. I'll be giving them out on the Punchdrunk Podcast w/ Sam Tripoli, Jayson Thibault, and Ari Shaffir. So tune in to that, if you want my picks.

**gabe** · 05-09-12, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by DirtyX

Somebody sounds angry,... HAHA

Nobody appreicates or gives two shits about your stupid half-ass insight. GABE = douchebag of the board... Get a life and stop bitching, you sound like a little girl who lost her girl scout cookies... GTFO!

Nobody, except the 10+ people who have messaged me asking for my insight?

Like I said before, who is this clown? Quit talking to me. I don't know you.

I ain't bitching about anything. I literally don't care about anything that is going on here. Apparently you do. Pathetic guy.

edit--

my "half ass insight" LOLLL this is exactly my point. i've got a higher % of wins on record here on this board in recent months than anyone else, yet i've got "half ass insight" lollll yeah, makes a lot of sense.

thinking morecraft would beat barry and barry would beat lavar (when it couldn't be more obvious the opposite is what the likely outcome is) is the kinda good insight you like, so keep kissing v's ass and keep hating on me. =)

**Vaughany** · 05-09-12, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by gabe

The past couple events, I had to go out of my way to give my picks... and I only did it because so many of you were messaging me and asking for my picks.

I probably won't have the time and if I do, I likely won't even feel like posting 'em-- so don't message me anymore.

All I did here is mention how ridiculous it was that I get over-looked, and I got a bunch of shit in return. If any of you can't acknowledge the fact that a very high percentage of fighters I've stood behind on this board have won, then you've got your heads up your asses. I would say a higher % than V's, but you never really know which fighter he's backing, 'cos he's got money on both sides.

I'm feeling confident I won't be posting my picks here anymore, especially not with all this hate and disrespect. I'll be giving them out on the Punchdrunk Podcast w/ Sam Tripoli, Jayson Thibault, and Ari Shaffir. So tune in to that, if you want my picks.

Well if people are messaging you asking for your picks then surely you aren't being over-looked?

**gabe** · 05-09-12, 03:59 PM

V, don't respond trying to defend yourself 'cos my intention isn't to put you down or attack you. xo

**Vaughany** · 05-09-12, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by gabe

Nobody, except the 10+ people who have messaged me asking for my insight?

Like I said before, who is this clown? Quit talking to me. I don't know you.

I ain't bitching about anything. I literally don't care about anything that is going on here. Apparently you do. Pathetic guy.

edit--

my "half ass insight" LOLLL this is exactly my point. i've got a higher % of wins on record here on this board in recent months than anyone else, yet i've got "half ass insight" lollll yeah, makes a lot of sense.

thinking morecraft would beat barry and barry would beat lavar (when it couldn't be more obvious the opposite is what the likely outcome is) is the kinda good insight you like, so keep kissing v's ass and keep hating on me. =)

Ahhh 10+ people messaging u asking for insight yet u still feel u are "over-looked"!

Again bringing up Barr, Morecraft and Lavar. I had Lavar by TKO/KO so I dont understand your argument.

**gabe** · 05-09-12, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Well if people are messaging you asking for your picks then surely you aren't being over-looked?

those same people don't defend me on here and even make jokes at my expense.

but i meant calc overlooked me, not everyone. but most do.

**gabe** · 05-09-12, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Ahhh 10+ people messaging u asking for insight yet u still feel u are "over-looked"!

Again bringing up Barr, Morecraft and Lavar. I had Lavar by TKO/KO so I dont understand your argument.

you were arguing that barry is likely to win the fight, and i was telling you that it's lavar's. -- i didn't wanna make many picks for that card, but i liked lavar too much in that match-up to not go with him.

but yeah, see- you made me believe you thought Barry had a high chance of winning that fight. You thought he would outpoint Lavar. I said there is no way Lavar is gona stand there and take leg kicks. I didn't believe Barry stood a chance on the feet and said his only way is if he catches Lavar in a submission... so u really made it seem like you were big on Barry, and anyone reading your posts would see it that way, then they would bet on Barry, and then they would see that you also had Lavar by TKO. That's some confusing shit for people, man. If you don't feel any way for that specific fight, then don't post your bets on that fight here. I bet on fighters I'm not confident in, but I don't post those. You laugh that I seperate personal bets like that with actual picks for people. Maybe you oughta start doing it my way.

**Rubber Guard** · 05-09-12, 04:08 PM

I have no clown in this circus. And Gabe has always not posted all of his "plays" yet takes credit for many.

But I find it funny how you all are so obsessed with him. Like 3 or 4 of you come into his thread get your panties in a bunch and then attack him. If you think he is such a goof why would you waste your time so much and get all mad? Seems pretty silly to me. You guys need something new in your lives.

**PunisherIND** · 05-09-12, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by gabe

The past couple events, I had to go out of my way to give my picks... and I only did it because so many of you were messaging me and asking for my picks.

I probably won't have the time and if I do, I likely won't even feel like posting 'em-- so don't message me anymore.

All I did here is mention how ridiculous it was that I get over-looked, and I got a bunch of shit in return. If any of you can't acknowledge the fact that a very high percentage of fighters I've stood behind on this board have won, then you've got your heads up your asses. I would say a higher % than V's, but you never really know which fighter he's backing, 'cos he's got money on both sides.

I'm feeling confident I won't be posting my picks here anymore, especially not with all this hate and disrespect. I'll be giving them out on the Punchdrunk Podcast w/ Sam Tripoli, Jayson Thibault, and Ari Shaffir. So tune in to that, if you want my picks.

hey gabe, i think you need to lighten up buddy. maybe you need some better medicine? i thought you guys had that primo stuff on the west coast? lol.

seriously though, i think you have a lot of valuable insight and i dont think you should stop posting. i know its nice to be acknowledged for your efforts, but as long as you're making bank, who the **** cares if people arent giving you credit?

**Vaughany** · 05-09-12, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by gabe

you were arguing that barry is likely to win the fight, and i was telling you that it's lavar's. -- i didn't wanna make many picks for that card, but i liked lavar too much in that match-up to not go with him.

but yeah, see- you made me believe you thought Barry had a high chance of winning that fight. You thought he would outpoint Lavar. I said there is no way Lavar is gona stand there and take leg kicks. I didn't believe Barry stood a chance on the feet and said his only way is if he catches Lavar in a submission... so u really made it seem like you were big on Barry, and anyone reading your posts would see it that way, then they would bet on Barry, and then they would see that you also had Lavar by TKO. That's some confusing shit for people, man. If you don't feel any way for that specific fight, then don't post your bets on that fight here. I bet on fighters I'm not confident in, but I don't post those. You laugh that I seperate personal bets like that with actual picks for people. Maybe you oughta start doing it my way.

It's called hedging Gabe. As I explained numerous times in my thread when u questioned why I had Barry...I had Barry in parlays simply because I thought tht Lavar only had one way of winning - by TKO/KO. so I could increase the odds on Barry by having him in parlays - which is exactly what happened. So I was getting Barry at much better odds then he was actually available at as previous legs of the parlays were successful. I then had the option (as would anybody else who'd copied those two parlays) of either letting the parlays ride and getting Barry at almost Evens odds or to arb out completely, or to hedge with or hedge to Lavar by TKO/KO which is what I did.

**Vaughany** · 05-09-12, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Rubber Guard

I have no clown in this circus. And Gabe has always not posted all of his "plays" yet takes credit for many.

But I find it funny how you all are so obsessed with him. Like 3 or 4 of you come into his thread get your panties in a bunch and then attack him. If you think he is such a goof why would you waste your time so much and get all mad? Seems pretty silly to me. You guys need something new in your lives.

I personally dont think Gabe is a goof, I like the dude. We just bust eachothers balls for our styles of betting and outlook on things!

**Beelzebubzy** · 05-09-12, 04:22 PM

I'm two face??

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**Vitooch** · 05-09-12, 04:24 PM

God damn it gabe are you this desperate for some lovin?...I know a few heavy set black gentlemen that will do just the trick.

**Vaughany** · 05-09-12, 04:25 PM

lol

**NunyaBidness** · 05-09-12, 08:01 PM

Originally posted by Vitooch

God damn it gabe are you this desperate for some lovin?...I know a few heavy set black gentlemen that will do just the trick.

Funny, that's exactly what game PMd ME, once:

"you like to choke on thick black dick, right? i'm pretty sure you do. i'm never wrong about this shit. i can spot your kind from anywhere. when you're in L.A., i got a friend i might be able to set you up with. let me know. he says he's got an 11 inch coke can for a rooster and it's blacker than wesley snipes. you two are just gonna love each other!!!!!!"

That's some real comedy fanning there.

**fosho14** · 05-09-12, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by gabe

I've lost money tailing fighters you were risking a lot of units on, only to find out you were also betting against them, after the fact. Your bets only help yourself. You're better off posting them in a private journal than on a public forum. I'd suggest you use your thread only to post bets you think are going to cash. People come here to get an idea of what bets to make, not to get confused.

This. Really hit the nail on the head with that.

I realize that it is very clever what your doing V, but it is true that it is actually a detriment to others posting these publicly for the reasons related to arbing that I described earlier. There's no denying that your style is profitable for yourself, but without sounding too harsh it really is a hindrance to others. You have great breakdowns that I really enjoy reading and it seems like your a huge fan of the sport and solid at predicting fights. In light of those characteristics I wish you would post thoughts pertaining to fighters who you actually support or at least who you would recommend others back because otherwise it seems rather pointless reading your threads knowing that you don't really care what happens in the fight because your going to make money regardless through all your $ from other arbs and "risk free" plays as you like to call them etc etc. Literally whenever a fighter who you appeared to be extremely confident in and betting big loses, you still somehow post profitable units. If someone has successfully learned how to arb, they're going to arb on their own. There not going to tail arbs, or whatever it is your recommending on your thread due to timing, discrepancy with books and many other elements.

So ya I whole heartedly agree that it would be awesome if you posted your thoughts on who you truly feel has value or more importantly who you believe is going to win instead of your arbitrage transactions (or units you've made from arbs). After all, many ppl on here don't feel like investing loads of time to price shop, or arb for tiny gains off movement here and there as much as you do and even if they did they clearly would'nt be looking at your thread because it's of no use or help. This might come as a total shock to you but some ppl on here actually like to focus on picking winners and that is all they're concerned about. There is no shortage of literature, reading material and proper guides on arbitrage if people want to do it, so I just don't see the point of your thread when there are vastly superior ways such as email/text alerts or even computer programs. The other thing to keep in mind is that none of these plays ever really apply to us because everyone's schedule is different and we all have different books with different juice not to mention the fact that these lines are always changing.

Understand that I in no way consider myself a pro or better than anybody else on here but what I do bring to the table is honesty, and when I'm wrong about things I own it. Not saying your a dishonest person, but hopefully you can take what gabe said from that above quote, and then try to understand what I just elaborated on and explained in detail in order to hopefully see where we're coming from.

Would love to hear any genuine and sincere predictions you have or plays that you think have value (without assuming that everyone is going to be arbing for "risk free" profit). It's clear that you follow the sport quite closely so I'm always interested in your opinions but a little put off by the fact that you have no incentive or motivation for picking the victorious fighters since you mainly rely on arbing. Unfortunately it almost seems as though if myself or other ppl listen to you they are endangering and putting themselves in more risk than if they would just ignore you.

See what I'm sayin?

**DeFactoCrippler** · 05-10-12, 12:33 AM

How out of all this shit did you not manage to address Gabe's accusations of you being a dickrider and a two face?