What makes SBR better than Sherdog

[SharpBoxing]

Lol why is everyone ok with koscheckbaby's racisms that black are more superior athletes?

how would you guys feel if someone said whites are intellectually superior than blacks

[135steward]

Genetics or environment?

I make this argument when I'm watching hockey all the time too. I got some hockey player to concede it eventually. If hockey was accessible to the blacks and cheap to play, they'd dominate that sport as well. So, when watching it, it always feels watered down by the lack of them. And even still, the blacks that are in the sport are like the best fighters, checkers, and they even have a guy that is always towards the top in scoring (Jerome Iginla)

I won't shortchange breeding. But environment encourages blacks to excel in basketball and football. Environment encourages Central/South Americans to excel in baseball. Did you notice (of course you did!) That the best boxers in the world are from (Eastern) Europe and to some extent the Phillipines? We Americans have some (black) talent here, too. But maybe that's do to environmental support and encouragement?

[Vaughany]

Lol why is everyone ok with koscheckbaby's racisms that black are more superior athletes?

how would you guys feel if someone said whites are intellectually superior than blacks

I'd think at least we're good at something!!

[varkolek]

Lol why is everyone ok with koscheckbaby's racisms that black are more superior athletes?

how would you guys feel if someone said whites are intellectually superior than blacks

That blacks are athletically superior is supported by their phenotype, that is, its documented they have denser bones which is related to musculature, and tend to be worse at swimming because they're less buoyant.

That whites are intellectually superior isn't supported by much genetic research. There's cultural prejudice which means people look at the last 2 centuries of colonisation and say whites are smarter. But throughout the Middle East and parts of Asia people had developed technological advancements and sewage centuries before white people were still crapping in corners. I forget which cultures those were exactly, I'm not going to look them up now.

There's some anthropologists who say that Asians have the biggest skulls and their women have the biggest pelvises (so the babies with big brains can get out), followed by whites and last blacks. But anthropologists don't have an understanding of genetics, and most of the human genome hasn't been mapped yet, and what genes have to do with skull/hip size don't necessarily have anything to do with intelligence.

There's some controversial research saying there's a primitive gene more prevalent in blacks than in whites. But actually, the people who have the most genetically in common with neanderthals is red-haired people.

There's also some controversial research about a 'warrior gene' in Maoris which makes them more violent or something. But every indigenous culture, Maoris, Inuit, Aborigines, Native Americans, have problems with alcoholism and crime etc. An interesting thing is that male Maoris and female Maoris are genetically different.

A mostly female group of people left a place like Taiwan, and stopped over in PNG or parts of Melanesia where they picked up a bunch of black men, and then carried on to New Zealand. There's actually a Maori legend about this, about ships that stopped in different places.

I'm not a genetics expert or anything, just have a background in biology.

[SharpBoxing]

That blacks are athletically superior is supported by their phenotype, that is, its documented they have denser bones which is related to musculature, and tend to be worse at swimming because they're less buoyant.

That whites are intellectually superior isn't supported by much genetic research. There's cultural prejudice which means people look at the last 2 centuries of colonisation and say whites are smarter. But throughout the Middle East and parts of Asia people had developed technological advancements and sewage centuries before white people were still crapping in corners. I forget which cultures those were exactly, I'm not going to look them up now.

Thats not true. Pretty much for the last 3000 years Europeans have been kicking ass arround the world. How many African or Asian nations were able to conquer or enslave Europeans?

If thats not proof of intelectual superiority I dont know what is.

[Hannibal]

Apparently blacks have a shorter gestation period and smaller brains.
I'm no racist...but turn on the news and tell me who commits 9/10 violent crimes...?
Do speak more varkolek...very interesting

[Hannibal]

Sharp: I'm pretty sure the chinese have over 5000 yrs of recorded history.
And genghis khan was a pretty badass conqueror

[SharpBoxing]

Sharp: I'm pretty sure the chinese have over 5000 yrs of recorded history.
And genghis khan was a pretty badass conqueror

What part of Europe did gengish khan conquer?

[SharpBoxing]

Its funny how suddenly everybody is butthurt when the rasicm is towards blacks

[Hannibal]

In ancient history...europeans and asians barely knew of each others existence, if at all. I mean...how far did the roman empire get before they basically considered that they ruled the world?

[SharpBoxing]

Look I dont care what race did what. I was trying to make a point that racism shouldnt be tolerated. Neither Black racism nor white racism

[Vaughany]

yeah Scotland was like the final frontier for the Romans!

[NunyaBidness]

Look I dont care what race did what. I was trying to make a point that racism shouldnt be tolerated. Neither Black racism nor white racism

It's not racist to admit that groups have differences. Treating people equally doesn't mean they have to be equal in every aspect.

Getting upset at a guy who thinks the stereotype is that "black people don't cut" is counter-productive as you ruin some unintentional humor.

[Hannibal]

Its wrong to deny rights, or treat people differently due to skin color. But not to recognize the inherent genetic differences and traits of each race is ignorant and naïve.

[NunyaBidness]

Apparently blacks have a shorter gestation period and smaller brains.
I'm no racist...but turn on the news and tell me who commits 9/10 violent crimes...?

Interesting. Did you know that the majority of balogna sandwiches are eaten by whites? And more whites than blacks have college degrees. Why don't blacks figure it out and eat more balogna?

[sideloaded]

I'm black and dumb as hell. However I'm hung like a horse so it's all good.

[SharpBoxing]

Its wrong to deny rights, or treat people differently due to skin color. But not to recognize the inherent genetic differences and traits of each race is ignorant and naïve.

Ok fair enough. No need then to be upset when someone says whites are intelectually more superior than blacks lol

[Vaughany]

I'm black and dumb as hell. However I'm hung like a horse so it's all good.

[Hannibal]

A cop on the street will racially profile..because his experience tells him it is an effective tool, and could likely save his life. Yet a politician (or reddit user) sitting safely behind his desk will denounce this as an evil act.

Who do you side with?

[SharpBoxing]

A cop on the street will racially profile..because his experience tells him it is an effective tool, and could likely save his life. Yet a politician (or reddit user) sitting safely behind his desk will denounce this as an evil act.

Who do you side with?

Ask Varkolek that.

Im actually not as politically correct like my previous post would suggest.

[varkolek]

Thats not true. Pretty much for the last 3000 years Europeans have been kicking ass arround the world. How many African or Asian nations were able to conquer or enslave Europeans?

If thats not proof of intelectual superiority I dont know what is.

If you're referring to the Crusades and stuff, I don't think that was 3000 years ago? And also, Africans were enslaving other Africans and introduced that slave-trade to Europeans, if that's something to be proud of.

Do you understand what proof means? Saying, "I think white folk have been kicking black folk's ass" is not proof of intellectual superiority.

If you actually read what I wrote, that there is research suggesting that genes associated with lower IQ is represented more in black people, THAT could be considered proof that blacks may be less intelligent. It also doesn't disagree with your non-politically correct views.

[koscheckbaby]

To each their own. But in my opinion, those that deny blacks are the superior athletes are just not paying clear attention. Blacks are clearly the best at sports, ESPECIALLY when they have the training or practicing opportunities. ****, this is an MMA thread, and the two best fighters are black, Anderson Silva and Jon Jones. Just more coincidence?

[varkolek]

I'm no racist...but turn on the news and tell me who commits 9/10 violent crimes...?

Again, that isn't proof it's correlation.

In Australia, there's a white ghetto were some cops chased a kid in a stolen car and the car crashed, the kid died. After that, there was a riot where all these white kids threw rocks, petrol bombs at police, burned stuff. These kids have no prospects, are on welfare, aren't educated. A friend of the kid who died said he stole the car because it beats walking.

Now if there's a bunch of exclusively white guys who commit crimes, do they commit crimes because they are white?

Do you understand what a ghetto is?

I mentioned this. I've described a gene associated with risk taking behaviour, which is very highly represented in Maoris. So you could say - Maoris are violent criminals due to their race. But that doesn't explain why every other indigenous race has problems with drinking and violence.

I mainly only read this subforum, but I read some of the arguments between sideloaded and a bunch of people in Player's Talk. It's Hicksville, I wasn't aware of it. And also, I've read some threads in the Saloon, that place is like the twilight zone.

I won't be commenting further on this thread, didn't intend to derail anything.

[varkolek]

To each their own. But in my opinion, those that deny blacks are the superior athletes are just not paying clear attention. Blacks are clearly the best at sports, ESPECIALLY when they have the training or practicing opportunities. ****, this is an MMA thread, and the two best fighters are black, Anderson Silva and Jon Jones. Just more coincidence?

I'm not disagreeing, but the playing field isn't so uneven that there aren't white, hispanic or Asian champs. Usually Asian champs in smaller weight classes I guess.

[RaiderNation MMA]

bloody elbow is worst

[MMAbetMASTA]

You can fighter bash all day long and not have to worry about the super sensitive mods deleting every little thread you make just because they have some kind of personal grudge against you. Seriously a lot of the mods at Sherdog have sticks up their ass the size of Sequoia branches.

I agree, I've had 2 accounts banned on SD since 2003.

The first ban that lost my 03 account was for talking ish about rampage, and yet the shiit I was talking was true as I got to know the guy pretty well cuz juanito ibarra lived across the street from me.. most of my 'slandering' was surrounding the fallout between juanito and page... the sherdog mod claimed I was slandering and bashing rampage with no proof, and yes I had no concrete proof but it was true - the guy is a lunatic, a womanizer, a liar, and blames his problems on everyone else but himself.

The second ban that lost me was for 'speculating' that reem used roids. I was flagged by the TOTAL DOUCHEBAG NERD aka RONWAH (mod faggg on sherdog), and then I went on a temper tantrum in that thread bashing ronwah and why his flag was ridiculous. I went over board and was pretty childish, but it was still a ludacrious flag. Checked back the next day and my 07 account was banned.

So yes, I completely agree with you, ts. Very uptight and lame mods on SD who have nothing better to do. I seriously think those losers sit on the computer / forum ALL DAY and think they are some super police that is serving some great purpose or some shit lol.

Furthermore, I've come to like this site for serious discussion.

There is nothing but hate on sherdog for any opinion someone makes. Its also hard to get serious feedback when asking for advice or a breakdown. I made some bet related threads and never really got any good discussion from it. Vaughany popped in here and there telling me to check this site out and I finally did - never looked back! (although I still post on SD here and there). And while there is a lot of hate on here and I think some of you take this site way too seriously, there is great discussion and very valid insight here.

As someone else said, glad you've gotten it off your chest

[MMAbetMASTA]

I'm black and dumb as hell. However I'm hung like a horse so it's all good.

LOL

[Jordan23]

Another example is how tonight Sherdog is deleting EVERY single thread that has anything to do with Dana's info being given out... haha do they really think because they delete a thread that people aren't going to keep talking about it or they don't somehow know about it? It's already out there!

[MMAbetMASTA]

Thats not true. Pretty much for the last 3000 years Europeans have been kicking ass arround the world. How many African or Asian nations were able to conquer or enslave Europeans?

If thats not proof of intelectual superiority I dont know what is.

That's not true.

And the guy you quoted in 'bold' was completely right in that statement.

I'd say for the past 900 years European countries have dominated the globe.

Keep in mind from about 400 CE to about 1400 CE the muslims and ottomans / byzantine empire dominated the west, making advancements that Europeans did not pick up until they pulled themselves out of the middle ages. And the Chinese were also making superior advancements during this time in a civilization most the world didn't even know existed.

These societies didn't conquer europe, if that's what we're talking about, but they surely were at a much more advanced level of society, culture and economics as compared to Europeans who barely scrapped by for that 1000 year period known as the dark ages / middle ages.

In the end though, its been WESTERN countries who have dominated the past 5000 years of recorded history / written history.

Yet 'western' does not mean strcictly Europeans by anymeans.

The middle east was truly the cradle of civilization - quite distant from Europe. Their civilizations began over 2k years before the Greeks. Greek culture was the first dominant european society and only came around 700 BCE, yet the hellenistic cutlures that followed and eventually turned into Rome were cutlures made up of anything but strictly European culture. If you wanna get technical about it you can say that most Europeans outside of monarchies and nobles were still living in the mud as illiterate tribes all the way until the Renassaince following the fall of the western roman empire - only 700 years ago. And even with western Rome, keep in mind that the Romans viewed what is today modern Europe as a 'backwards' land made up of filthy, poor, illiterate barabarians who had an average life expectancy of about 30 years old.

This question of inequality among races and societies over the course of human history is a hotly debated one, as I'm sure we all can agree.

I've finished reading a GREAT book, arguably one of the best I've ever read, called GUNS, GERMS and STEEL.

It goes into great detail to explain how geographic region, time, weather, animals and resources, and eventually the big three - guns, germs and steel - allowed WESTERN (not just European) societies to dominate the globe.

In the past 1000 years that EUropeans have clearly dominated is not a question of race, or genetic superiority. Its not about race or anything like that imo - you have to go way back and look at a variety of factors to understand why Western and european societies are the current big dogs in the world and why Africa, island societies, and societies in the Americas were never able to dominate or make similar advancments.

Sorry, didn't mean to go on a history tirade or sound like a prude with my input. But I love the subject so had to give my 2 cents as why I disagree with a couple things I've read.

[SharpBoxing]

Lol I dont want to get into a discussion about that subject here because it always ends up ugly.

And I have a feeling if a have beef with people here it wil jinx my plays. Just a superstition of mine I guess.