Sonnen vs Bisping !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Beelzebubzy** · 01-17-12, 05:14 PM

Damn!

I had about 5u on Sonnen versus Munoz

**Vaughany** · 01-17-12, 05:15 PM

hahahaha Will be interested to see odds for this

**The HOFF** · 01-17-12, 05:15 PM

The only draw back is this is in 11 days. I would have loved to see the trash talk between these two for a few months.

**Beelzebubzy** · 01-17-12, 05:18 PM

well it looks like Bispings TDD is going to get tested now

**Vaughany** · 01-17-12, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

The only draw back is this is in 11 days. I would have loved to see the trash talk between these two for a few months.

Yeah but it would of been completely fake and manufactured. I'm all for legit beefs like Serra and Hughes, Hardy and Davis etc... but Sonnen has got to the point where people know he's 90% trolling and playing up so will just go along with it. They sat together after their last fights at the press conference and got along just fine laughing at eachothers comments.

**gabe** · 01-17-12, 05:25 PM

What can Michael Bisping do that Brian Stann couldn't?

**Vaughany** · 01-17-12, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by gabe

What can Michael Bisping do that Brian Stann couldn't?

Not get arm-triangled.

**NunyaBidness** · 01-17-12, 05:29 PM

Sucks, I had a bunch on Bisping over Maia at -130

**FindTheLock** · 01-17-12, 05:32 PM

sonnen -800??? I'm guessing but that's what it should be

**FightFightFight** · 01-17-12, 05:32 PM

That sucks. Maia was my first big play of the year. Would've owned bisping IMO.

**NunyaBidness** · 01-17-12, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

sonnen -800??? I'm guessing but that's what it should be

Please let it be that.

**Thor4140** · 01-17-12, 05:58 PM

Bisping has stayed with wrestlers before and is very good off his back. Not as easy for Sonnen as it looks. Bisping might break out the Leben plan. Run run run jab run

**FindTheLock** · 01-17-12, 06:32 PM

I think Sonnen will have his way with mike in this fight. If mayhem could put mike on his caboose and hold him there then sonnen will rag doll him like no other in my opinion.

**BIGDAY** · 01-17-12, 06:56 PM

Bisping is just one of those fighters that you can't count out. Guy always is well conditioned and fairly underrated ground game.

**Kaladarus** · 01-17-12, 07:11 PM

Great fight, but this screws up all my bets on Bisping. Kind of sucks as I'm sure many here hit Bisping at very good prices.

**Thor4140** · 01-17-12, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

I think Sonnen will have his way with mike in this fight. If mayhem could put mike on his caboose and hold him there then sonnen will rag doll him like no other in my opinion.

One lucky takedown Miller got and we will never hear the end of it.

**FindTheLock** · 01-17-12, 07:56 PM

Originally posted by Thor4140

One lucky takedown Miller got and we will never hear the end of it.

where do you draw the line between luck and skill? I think miller could have continued his success if he didn't gas out completely in the 2nd round of that fight. Miller didn't look healthy walking into the cage that night.

**sirchadwick1** · 01-17-12, 08:58 PM

Sonnen -450
Bisping +325

Bovada. Bisping worth a shot?

**MMAbetMASTA** · 01-17-12, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

The only draw back is this is in 11 days. I would have loved to see the trash talk between these two for a few months.

I normally hate trash talk and hype between fighters, but I'll admit this would have been an exception and would have been a comedy classic....

**PunisherIND** · 01-17-12, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by sirchadwick1

Sonnen -450
Bisping +325

Bovada. Bisping worth a shot?

i think there's value. id give him at least 30% chance of winning.

**Kaladarus** · 01-17-12, 09:24 PM

Weidman -335
Maia +255

**Kaladarus** · 01-17-12, 09:24 PM

I don't like any of these lines right now.

**PunisherIND** · 01-17-12, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

Weidman -335
Maia +255

wow, the kid has shown a lot of promise, but this is a steep line for his first fight against top competition.

im favoring weidman to win, but will be making a value play on maia for now. may arb it out if the opportunity presents itself.

and thanks for the heads up on the line. it wasnt up on bestfightodds yet.

**RaiderNation MMA** · 01-17-12, 09:39 PM

much better matchup

**RaiderNation MMA** · 01-17-12, 09:39 PM

now give maia palhares!!!!!!!! palhares won in 1 minute hes fine!

**MMAbetMASTA** · 01-17-12, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

Weidman -335
Maia +255

holy sheesh, really?

I'm a self proclaimed weidman fanatic and nut hugger (no homo), but man, he's being overvalued here big time imo...

I favor him, as his wrestling I think can prove the biggest difference between the two and I truly believe he can hang rolling around with maia, but he won't dominate or win there on the ground and therefore that leaves us to a stand up battle where I really can't say who is better...probably maia I would think and that kind of scares me .... but who knows, I should have more belief in my hyped horse that I always chirp about - I truly think this guy has some of the best natural grappling abilities in teh game and who knows he could out roll maia and might want this to be a ground match... Either way too risky and too pricey for me, the value and play is on maia but my paper pick is crhris. Won't be surprised to see weidman's line drop dramatically as I know maia fans will love that line and rightfully so as I think he can def win this fight/... very close and very tough to call, if it were me I'd put weidman at -140, maia +115.

**sirchadwick1** · 01-17-12, 10:07 PM

Those lines are nuts. Maia at +255 is a gift for arbing or even a straight play. I would imagine him closing at around +150 or so. I'm also with you that I think Weidman will win, but this is a big step up and the ground game could very well cancel out.

**jacktheknife** · 01-17-12, 10:14 PM

Shit! Maia had mad value against Bisping.

**proposition joe** · 01-17-12, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by jacktheknife

Shit! Maia had mad value against Bisping.

And it just got better if the Weidman line people are mentioning is true...

**jacktheknife** · 01-17-12, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by proposition joe

And it just got better if the Weidman line people are mentioning is true...

Sure, because Weidman is totally on the same level of grappling. Same level of power in his hands, too.

**gabe** · 01-17-12, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

I don't like any of these lines right now.

Originally posted by PunisherIND

wow, the kid has shown a lot of promise, but this is a steep line for his first fight against top competition. im favoring weidman to win, but will be making a value play on maia for now. may arb it out if the opportunity presents itself. and thanks for the heads up on the line. it wasnt up on bestfightodds yet.

what you guys said.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 01-17-12, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

Weidman -335
Maia +255

I see what you did there.

**proposition joe** · 01-17-12, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by jacktheknife

Sure, because Weidman is totally on the same level of grappling. Same level of power in his hands, too.

What?

Weidman is a better grappler than Bisping and not as good as Maia so I'm not sure what you're saying.

Maia outclasses Weidman on the feet and on the ground, Weidman's only advantage is in the takedowns themselves.

**NunyaBidness** · 01-17-12, 10:53 PM

That line is seriously insane, missed the opener, but +205 right now is crazy. Expected -160 Maia.