2012 MMA (The HOFF)

**The HOFF** · 01-13-12, 06:58 PM

UFC 142

Palhares/Massenzio does not start Round 3 -158 (7.9u to win 5u)

Erick Silva wins ITD -130 (2.6u to win 2u)

**BIGDAY** · 01-13-12, 08:12 PM

GL

**more_betterness** · 01-13-12, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

Final 2011: 55-43 +50.56u I believe I made more money betting live with bookmaker in 2011 than I did just betting fights. Unfortunately, there is no way to post those plays and keep a record other than posting after the fact. If I do it I'll just keep a separate total.

What do you look for while live betting Hoff? I've never been near a computer during fights and never really thought about how I would approach it?

**MMAbetMASTA** · 01-13-12, 09:55 PM

Hey Hoff,

I saw on V's sbr contest thread that you like Omigawa... Why? Or is that just because its play money and you're taking him for an unprobable upset?

Fill me in on why you're liking omigawa because I've done my research and was planning to go heavy on alcantra, perhaps you know something I don't or perhaps I'm overlooking something. Breakdown appreciated, thanks and GL

**gabe** · 01-14-12, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

Hey Hoff,

I saw on V's sbr contest thread that you like Omigawa... Why? Or is that just because its play money and you're taking him for an unprobable upset?

Fill me in on why you're liking omigawa because I've done my research and was planning to go heavy on alcantra, perhaps you know something I don't or perhaps I'm overlooking something. Breakdown appreciated, thanks and GL

How does your research conclude Alcantara winning?

My research reflects that Omigawa has a slight advantage, and at plus money, that's a good bet!

**The HOFF** · 01-14-12, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by more_betterness

What do you look for while live betting Hoff? I've never been near a computer during fights and never really thought about how I would approach it?

If you have a bookmaker account, I would suggest having it open watching the fights tonight. The lines are live moving up and down through out the fight and only freeze when someone is in trouble. They even have odds for the finish by sub, ko, or dec. For UFC 141 I was able to take Overeem at -160 during the opening round after Lesnar failed on his first td. I also grabbed Castillo at +120 in the third round after he had secured a td against Njokauni. I can usually get a pretty good read on the fight in the first few minutes and then am able to get great numbers live.

**The HOFF** · 01-14-12, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

Hey Hoff,

I saw on V's sbr contest thread that you like Omigawa... Why? Or is that just because its play money and you're taking him for an unprobable upset?

Fill me in on why you're liking omigawa because I've done my research and was planning to go heavy on alcantra, perhaps you know something I don't or perhaps I'm overlooking something. Breakdown appreciated, thanks and GL

It is mostly just a money play as I am near the bottom of the contest. But I do think the line is a little off at this point. I personally think Omigawa was overrated with his wins in Dream and Sengoku. And some of those weren't even wins but shady judging. But he still is a tough fighter. I haven't really seen him use his judo very much, which is his best road to victory. His stand up is sub par and he seems content with trading punches. Alcantara had a nice KO over Lamas but then didn't show much in his first UFC win. Tricky fight for sure. I think the line is inflated because of Omigawa's losses in the UFC. But remember that was a dry hump by Mendes and a bad judging loss to Elkins. I don't think Alcantara is a bad play, but I wouldn't go real heavy at the current line. Good luck.

**The HOFF** · 01-14-12, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

GL

Thank you sir. You too.

**more_betterness** · 01-14-12, 09:59 PM

Got Tavares at +240 between round 2 and 3! Thanks for inspiring me to use live-betting!

**NunyaBidness** · 01-14-12, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by more_betterness

Got Tavares at +240 between round 2 and 3! Thanks for inspiring me to use live-betting!

I got it too, but I don't expect it to get paid.

**Vaughany** · 01-14-12, 10:14 PM

Originally posted by more_betterness

Got Tavares at +240 between round 2 and 3! Thanks for inspiring me to use live-betting!

Great odds

As long as I win something tonight I'll be puttin a decent amount in to my bookmaker account on monday morning! Need to start looking in to these live betting options as well and annoyed I didnt put anything on the Alcantara opener at -123

**NunyaBidness** · 01-14-12, 10:14 PM

Spoke to soon, they paid it.

**more_betterness** · 01-14-12, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I got it too, but I don't expect it to get paid.

I didn't either... thought they switched the + and the - signs, a lot of sites had the second scored for Stout so maybe the good folks at 5dimes saw it that way too.

**NunyaBidness** · 01-14-12, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by more_betterness

I didn't either... thought they switched the + and the - signs, a lot of sites had the second scored for Stout so maybe the good folks at 5dimes saw it that way too.

They took it down a second later and immediately reversed the line. It was clearly a mistake. But, they were nice enough to pay it, so I'll take it.

**Vaughany** · 01-14-12, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Spoke to soon, they paid it.

BM or 5dimes/sportbet?

**more_betterness** · 01-14-12, 10:40 PM

5d paid mine

**Vitooch** · 01-15-12, 02:26 AM

Live Betting on BetDSI Hoff?

**The HOFF** · 01-15-12, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by The HOFF

UFC 142

Palhares/Massenzio does not start Round 3 -158 (7.9u to win 5u)

Erick Silva wins ITD -130 (2.6u to win 2u)

Hard to swallow that Silva DQ bullshit. I shouldn't have to even count that. Hit Palhares Sub of the night and took in 2.2u live betting.

2012 MMA 1-1 +2.4u

**The HOFF** · 01-15-12, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by Vitooch

Live Betting on BetDSI Hoff?

I do my live betting on Bookmaker. It has some great lines. 5Dimes has it but only during breaks.

**Vitooch** · 01-15-12, 02:40 AM

Ok thank you. Could definitely get behind live betting. BetDSI is supposed to be a very good MMA book so hopefully they have it

**The HOFF** · 01-19-12, 10:54 PM

UFC on FX 1
Eric Schafer -160 (8u to win 5u)

Kamal Shalorus -130 (6.5u to win 5u)

Pat Schilling +115 (2u to win 2.3u)

**terpkeg** · 01-19-12, 11:53 PM

See you like Schafer. I am leaning heavy that way myself. UFC finally gives him someone without a stout wrestling background. Given his recent track record in UFC, I was disappointed to see him open as favorite though.

BOL.

**gabe** · 01-20-12, 01:25 AM

Like both plays but not Shalorus! Good luck

**The HOFF** · 01-21-12, 03:36 AM

Originally posted by The HOFF

UFC on FX 1
Eric Schafer -160 (8u to win 5u)

Kamal Shalorus -130 (6.5u to win 5u)

Pat Schilling +115 (2u to win 2.3u)

I believe this was the worst night I have ever had in MMA.

UFC on FX 1: 0-3 -16.5u

2012 MMA 1-4 -14.1u

**MexicanStallion** · 01-21-12, 04:08 AM

Sorry about the rough night HOFF. Get it back next week.

**Eccocide** · 01-21-12, 11:56 AM

Get em back next week bud.

**Vitooch** · 01-21-12, 10:59 PM

My night was worse Hoff.

I had Schafer, Shalorus, Morecraft, and Guillard. Most brutal night ever.

**ddream1** · 01-22-12, 11:16 AM

shake it off hoff

**Vaughany** · 01-23-12, 11:43 AM

Yeah we've all had them Hoff.... plenty of events coming up to get it back on track tho

**gabe** · 01-23-12, 07:33 PM

You've got two beautiful weeks ahead of ya. Stay sharp.

**The HOFF** · 01-28-12, 01:12 AM

Let's see if I can recover from the last debacle.

UFC on FOX 2
Rashad Evans -140 (7u to win 5u)

Damian Maia +140 (5u to win 7u)

Nik Lentz +290 (2u to win 5.8u)

Cub Swanson -125 (2.5u to win 2u)

**NunyaBidness** · 01-28-12, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by The HOFF

Let's see if I can recover from the last debacle.

UFC on FOX 2
Rashad Evans -140 (7u to win 5u)

Damian Maia +140 (5u to win 7u)

Nik Lentz +290 (2u to win 5.8u)

Cub Swanson -125 (2.5u to win 2u)

Luckily we'll both have a good night, even if Swanson loses for you, which I hope he does!

**The HOFF** · 01-28-12, 01:52 AM

I had to take a shot on a few props for tonight:

Oliveira KO of the Night +1000
Swanson Sub of the night +1250
Beltran/Johnson Fight of the Night +1050

**The HOFF** · 01-28-12, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Luckily we'll both have a good night, even if Swanson loses for you, which I hope he does!

Just a small one on Swanson. I was on Roop against Hioki, but I think an overrated Hioki benefits me with a great line on Swanson here. But I'd take a 3-1 night for sure.