2012 MMA (The HOFF)

**gabe** · 01-28-12, 06:07 AM

You went totally against me last time and you're totally against me this time, as well, including my biggest play Evan Dunham.

Nunya, you're on Lentz?!

**NunyaBidness** · 01-28-12, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by gabe

You went totally against me last time and you're totally against me this time, as well, including my biggest play Evan Dunham.

Nunya, you're on Lentz?!

Nope, I would've played Dunham at better than -250 or Lentz at better than +325. At current prices I'm uninterested.

**The HOFF** · 01-28-12, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by gabe

You went totally against me last time and you're totally against me this time, as well, including my biggest play Evan Dunham.

I agree Dunham is the better overall fighter and should be a big favorite. But like I said in your thread, Sherk did just enough to steal 2 rounds against Dunham. Lentz has done that before and very well could do it here. I expect it to lose, that's why it's such a small play, but it has a chance to win if Lentz fights like a blanket. No way I'd ever lay -375 on someone like Dunham against a wrestler like Lentz.

**gabe** · 01-28-12, 01:27 PM

If Lentz couldn't do it against Bocek, you think he can against Dunham?

**Vaughany** · 01-28-12, 01:32 PM

Probably not. But then Bocek is bigger than Dunham and fought very smart by actively looking for and achieving take-downs against Lentz. Sometimes the best way to cancel out a wrestler is to beat him at his own game which Bocek did. There's no guarantee that Dunham will do the same - he's a lot more likely to want to keep it standing and pick apart Lentz. Tht might well be a successful strategy, but nonetheless it gives Lentz more opportunities to be the one showing "octagon control" and pressure which looks good in the judges' eyes, rather than being on his back for large periods like he was against Bocek.

**The HOFF** · 01-28-12, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by gabe

If Lentz couldn't do it against Bocek, you think he can against Dunham?

Let's just agree to disagree and then one of us can through out a big "I told you so" to make the other look stupid after the fight.

**The HOFF** · 01-31-12, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

UFC on FOX 2
Rashad Evans -140 (7u to win 5u)

Damian Maia +140 (5u to win 7u)

Nik Lentz +290 (2u to win 5.8u)

Cub Swanson -125 (2.5u to win 2u)

UFC on Fox 2: 2-2 +0.0u

2012 MMA 3-6 -14.1u

**The HOFF** · 01-31-12, 06:27 PM

Currently have a huge bet on Koscheck for UFC 143. That may be my only bet on the card unless something really stands out when lines are released. May also play Condit if the line continues to go up.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 01-31-12, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

Currently have a huge bet on Koscheck for UFC 143. That may be my only bet on the card unless something really stands out when lines are released. May also play Condit if the line continues to go up.

At current time, I too am in the Koscheck and Condit (if line movement continues) camp...

GL Hoff

**gabe** · 01-31-12, 07:55 PM

You boys aren't loving Renan???

**sideloaded** · 01-31-12, 08:00 PM

love the avatar

**gabe** · 01-31-12, 08:02 PM

mine?

**sideloaded** · 01-31-12, 08:13 PM

yeah

**gabe** · 01-31-12, 08:22 PM

keitel-penn-buscemi

respek.

**NunyaBidness** · 01-31-12, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by gabe

keitel-penn-buscemi

respek.

One is dead.

One looks dead.

The other I've seen his penis way too many times.

**The HOFF** · 01-31-12, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by gabe

You boys aren't loving Renan???

He should be favored. But like more_betterness (I think) said, no way I take that big of a favorite with unproven TDD against a very good wrestler.

**more_betterness** · 01-31-12, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

He should be favored. But like more_betterness (I think) said, no way I take that big of a favorite with unproven TDD against a very good wrestler.

You sir are correct.

**gabe** · 01-31-12, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

Let's just agree to disagree and then one of us can through out a big "I told you so" to make the other look stupid after the fight.

I told you so.

**gabe** · 01-31-12, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

He should be favored. But like more_betterness (I think) said, no way I take that big of a favorite with unproven TDD against a very good wrestler.

I relate him to the likes of Aldo and Barboza, so I expect him to have similar TDD.

Though, I'm not worried about Scotty taking him down. Renan has got some sick BJJ. A triangle would make for a nice finish to this fight.

**The HOFF** · 02-03-12, 04:16 AM

UFC 143

Josh Koscheck -220 (44u to win 20u)

This is the largest MMA bet I have ever laid down. May buy back some before the fight, but undecided as of now. Leaving for vacation in Mexico in a few hours! I will probably miss the prelims but making the gf go to the bar with me for both UFC PPV and the SuperBowl. She's real excited. Looking at Roy Nelson too.

**Vaughany** · 02-03-12, 04:21 AM

Originally posted by The HOFF

UFC 143

Josh Koscheck -220 (44u to win 20u)

This is the largest MMA bet I have ever laid down. May buy back some before the fight, but undecided as of now. Leaving for vacation in Mexico in a few hours! I will probably miss the prelims but making the gf go to the bar with me for both UFC PPV and the SuperBowl. She's real excited. Looking at Roy Nelson too.

**NunyaBidness** · 02-03-12, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

UFC 143

Josh Koscheck -220 (44u to win 20u)

This is the largest MMA bet I have ever laid down. May buy back some before the fight, but undecided as of now. Leaving for vacation in Mexico in a few hours! I will probably miss the prelims but making the gf go to the bar with me for both UFC PPV and the SuperBowl. She's real excited. Looking at Roy Nelson too.

I did that to my wife when we were on vacation during the Kimbo/Shamrock fight. Had the biggest wager of my life on it at the time. Get to the bar and find out I don't have any money on it at all anymore. She was pissed. I stayed and watched the card anyway. SUPER PISSED.

**Grabaka** · 02-03-12, 03:30 PM

Where to mr Hoff? Welcome to the land of the free

**Educ8d Degener8** · 02-03-12, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

UFC 143

Josh Koscheck -220 (44u to win 20u)

This is the largest MMA bet I have ever laid down. May buy back some before the fight, but undecided as of now. Leaving for vacation in Mexico in a few hours! I will probably miss the prelims but making the gf go to the bar with me for both UFC PPV and the SuperBowl. She's real excited. Looking at Roy Nelson too.

No woman should get excited from looking at Roy Nelson...

Be safe in Mexico, don't lose any organs.

**Vaughany** · 02-03-12, 03:43 PM

lol

**urge2kill** · 02-03-12, 07:19 PM

the biggest mma bet ive ever made was also on koscheck...vs paulo thiago

**The HOFF** · 02-03-12, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by Grabaka

Where to mr Hoff? Welcome to the land of the free

Nuevo Vallarta. Second time vacationing here, third time to Mexico.

**The HOFF** · 02-03-12, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I did that to my wife when we were on vacation during the Kimbo/Shamrock fight. Had the biggest wager of my life on it at the time. Get to the bar and find out I don't have any money on it at all anymore. She was pissed. I stayed and watched the card anyway. SUPER PISSED.

Well I've made her do it before and she knows I'll be an a-hole the rest of the trip if I don't get to watch it.

**The HOFF** · 02-03-12, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by urge2kill

the biggest mma bet ive ever made was also on koscheck...vs paulo thiago

Please don't jinx me.

**The HOFF** · 02-03-12, 10:52 PM

I have wired internet in the room at the resort, so that's a bonus. They have an all you can eat and drink SuperBowl party at the resort for $30. Just need to find UFC 143 tomorrow and I'll be set.

UFC 143

Josh Koscheck -220 (44u to win 20u)
I think I'm going to let it ride, especially after the weigh in. Koscheck has a nice size advantage. I really thing Pierce should be at 155.

Roy Nelson +140 (2u to win 2.8u)

Alex Caceras +120 (2u to win 2.4u)

Clifford Starks +260 (1u to win 2.6u)

**Beelzebubzy** · 02-05-12, 07:28 PM

Great job

**The HOFF** · 02-05-12, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Great job

Thanks. Funny thing is I had no idea what was going on. Caught the last few prelims at the bar, but they were playing music so no sound with the fights. I still have no idea why Herb Dean took 2 points from Caceras. Then when the PPV came on they turned on the volume a little, but it was in Spanish. I really had no idea what happened in the Kos fight either. Never heard the warnings or anything. Didn't hear the scores and my heart was beating like crazy until they raised Koscheck's hand.

**The HOFF** · 02-05-12, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by The HOFF

UFC 143

Josh Koscheck -220 (44u to win 20u)

Roy Nelson +140 (2u to win 2.8u)

Alex Caceras +120 (2u to win 2.4u)

Clifford Starks +260 (1u to win 2.6u)

I'm not going to tell you guys how much I really had on Koscheck. 44u is all I would admit on here.

I have been extremely good with bankroll and bet size over the last two years, but really went overboard this time and almost paid for it. I did manage to get one unit on Condit at +185 before the fights but never got it posted, so not counting it.

UFC on Fox 2: 1-3 +15.0u

2012 MMA 4-9 +0.9u
Back on the plus side!

**The HOFF** · 02-15-12, 10:36 AM

UFC on FUEL TV 1

Jake Ellenberger -225 (22.5u to win 10u)

Dave Herman -130 (6.5u to win 5u)

Aaron Simpson +100 (3u to win 3u)

I'm not going to arb at all with Diego Sanchez, as I really don't think I need to. Although if he gets any higher I might have too. I wish I would have hit the Ellenberger line for more, I can't believe he opened at -215. I really wanted to play Menjivar, but wanted better than -200.

Spent 6 hours in the airport yesterday in Mexico before the flight got cancelled. I was supposed to be back home yesterday but now have to fly home today and won't see the fights live.

**bjpenn85** · 02-15-12, 10:48 AM

Wow, lame. Good luck with youre pick then. I feel you brotha