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  • Educ8d Degener8
    SBR MVP
    • 01-12-10
    • 3177

    #1156
    Originally posted by Jesus Christ
    Thx Lord.
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    • gabe
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-12-11
      • 7405

      #1157
      Early thoughts, dear lord?
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      • El Nino
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 05-03-12
        • 18426

        #1158
        Originally posted by Jesus Christ
        So I'm gonna be attending UFC on Fox 4 and I have a 12 hour layover in Vegas so figure I gotta make some plays while I'm there

        Last time I was there and bet at Caesars but was not very pleased with their selection..anyone have any advice on a good book to bet some UFC?
        JC, as the poster of that last UFC 148 thread I can tell you about my experience in Vegas. I wanted to bet Anderson Silva to win inside the distance and could not find that prop anywhere. The only prop I found was at the Palazzo. However, it was exact results i.e., Silva by KO/TKO, Silva by sub, Silva by decision. The Palazzo's betting windows were all closed outside Lagasse's stadium while the main card was happening. There was a viewing party inside Lagasse's but it was full and they were not letting anyone inside. I do not know if they take bets inside.

        LVH had the best line on Silva that I saw (Silva -250) however zero props. I ended up running all over the strip after the Palazzo and had to bet Silva -295 @ the Wynn. The Wynn will take large bets, but their lines were bad and no props. FWIW the sharpest lines are always going to be online. If you have an eye on a dog or a lesser known fighter you may find value in Vegas. I was at the Bellagio sports book when BJ fought Diaz and within an hour of the fight Penn went from a -120 fav to a dog fast.

        As I mentioned in that thread, I was at the MGM for the Dos Santos/Mir fight and MGM did not allow parlays with Dos Santos and the Glover Texiera fight was not even up on the board to bet. If you want to line shop and see what's available give yourself plenty of time to find the best option.

        Let me know if you have any questions, I would be happy to help.
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        • Mercersux
          SBR MVP
          • 05-03-12
          • 1516

          #1159
          Damn jealous JC that you'll be betting live in vegas. One thing i have yet to cross of my bucket list. Soon though. Until then, gambling through bookies/online will have to do...
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          • DocPolish
            SBR Rookie
            • 07-31-12
            • 9

            #1160
            Originally posted by El Niño
            JC, as the poster of that last UFC 148 thread I can tell you about my experience in Vegas. I wanted to bet Anderson Silva to win inside the distance and could not find that prop anywhere. The only prop I found was at the Palazzo. However, it was exact results i.e., Silva by KO/TKO, Silva by sub, Silva by decision. The Palazzo's betting windows were all closed outside Lagasse's stadium while the main card was happening. There was a viewing party inside Lagasse's but it was full and they were not letting anyone inside. I do not know if they take bets inside.

            LVH had the best line on Silva that I saw (Silva -250) however zero props. I ended up running all over the strip after the Palazzo and had to bet Silva -295 @ the Wynn. The Wynn will take large bets, but their lines were bad and no props. FWIW the sharpest lines are always going to be online. If you have an eye on a dog or a lesser known fighter you may find value in Vegas. I was at the Bellagio sports book when BJ fought Diaz and within an hour of the fight Penn went from a -120 fav to a dog fast.

            As I mentioned in that thread, I was at the MGM for the Dos Santos/Mir fight and MGM did not allow parlays with Dos Santos and the Glover Texiera fight was not even up on the board to bet. If you want to line shop and see what's available give yourself plenty of time to find the best option.

            Let me know if you have any questions, I would be happy to help.
            You mentioned MGM doesn't do Parlay bets, do you know if any of the others offer them?
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            • PunisherIND
              SBR MVP
              • 02-24-11
              • 4980

              #1161
              Originally posted by Mercersux
              Damn jealous JC that you'll be betting live in vegas. One thing i have yet to cross of my bucket list. Soon though. Until then, gambling through bookies/online will have to do...
              Funny, the first time I ever bet on mma was live in vegas @ bellagio for ufc 100. Cashed a big parlay on lesnar, gsp and hendo. Was hooked on mma betting after that, but still haven't been back to vegas.
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              • omalley21
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 11-08-10
                • 908

                #1162
                MGM does parlays. I was able to parlay Dos santos at mgm at ufc 146..
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                • gabe
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-12-11
                  • 7405

                  #1163
                  Originally posted by PunisherIND
                  Funny, the first time I ever bet on mma was live in vegas @ bellagio for ufc 100. Cashed a big parlay on lesnar, gsp and hendo. Was hooked on mma betting after that, but still haven't been back to vegas.
                  Shame on anybody who doesn't go to Vegas at least once a year!!
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                  • PunisherIND
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-24-11
                    • 4980

                    #1164
                    Originally posted by gabe
                    Shame on anybody who doesn't go to Vegas at least once a year!!
                    i wish man. vegas was fockin awesome.

                    and i meant mandalay bay, not bellagio. this was back in 2009, but mandalay did allow parlays.
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                    • El Nino
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 05-03-12
                      • 18426

                      #1165
                      Originally posted by DocPolish
                      You mentioned MGM doesn't do Parlay bets, do you know if any of the others offer them?
                      MGM allows parlays, they blocked some of the fighters from being used in parlays. Guy in front of me tried to throw A fighter in a parlay (was pretty sure it was Dos Santos, maybe Velasquez), and they said the bet # was not allowed in parlays.
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                      • gabe
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-12-11
                        • 7405

                        #1166
                        Originally posted by El Niño
                        MGM allows parlays, they blocked some of the fighters from being used in parlays. Guy in front of me tried to throw A fighter in a parlay (was pretty sure it was Dos Santos, maybe Velasquez), and they said the bet # was not allowed in parlays.
                        I thought you meant he wasn't allowed in parlays when he was fighting Mir. Against Cain, he was a +140 dog. Doesn't make sense why they wouldn't allow it.
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                        • El Nino
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-03-12
                          • 18426

                          #1167
                          Originally posted by gabe
                          I thought you meant he wasn't allowed in parlays when he was fighting Mir. Against Cain, he was a +140 dog. Doesn't make sense why they wouldn't allow it.
                          Yeah, the almost all heavyweight card. Main event was JDS vs. Mir, co-main event was Velasquez vs. Big Foot. Velasquez and JDS were both huge favorites. MGM wouldn't allow one of them to be used in parlays. Pretty sure it was JDS, but might of been Velasquez.
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                          • Jesus Christ
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 05-25-11
                            • 935

                            #1168
                            I'm gonna make my plays in Vegas as long as the lines aren't terrible..which they very well may be.

                            As of now I'm gonna be betting Gamburyan, Phan, and Moraga.
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                            • Jesus Christ
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 05-25-11
                              • 935

                              #1169
                              Also I'll prolly go against my usual and do some kind of parlay if I can find a casino that allows it.
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                              • gabe
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-12-11
                                • 7405

                                #1170
                                I'm on Gamburyan, Phan, but not Moraga...
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                                • Jesus Christ
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 05-25-11
                                  • 935

                                  #1171
                                  Originally posted by gabe
                                  I'm on Gamburyan, Phan, but not Moraga...
                                  Yea I really like Gamburyan..I'm thinking of making a rather large play on him
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                                  • gabe
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-12-11
                                    • 7405

                                    #1172
                                    Originally posted by Jesus Christ
                                    Yea I really like Gamburyan..I'm thinking of making a rather large play on him
                                    Why Moraga?
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                                    • Beelzebubzy
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-06-11
                                      • 6995

                                      #1173
                                      Useless has problems with wreslters
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                                      • gabe
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-12-11
                                        • 7405

                                        #1174
                                        Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                        Useless has problems with wreslters
                                        No, he doesn't. Wrestlers have a problem with him. He stays so busy on his back that they can't do any work from the top. Please link me to a fight where he is having trouble.
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                                        • Jesus Christ
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 05-25-11
                                          • 935

                                          #1175
                                          Originally posted by gabe
                                          Why Moraga?
                                          Useless is being overvalued in this spot..Moraga is gonna have a sizable wrestling advantage and a slight striking advantage in my eyes...I'm not overly concerned with Moraga getting caught in the guard of Gomez...I think he can put Gomez there and keep him there by doing heavy work from half guard...my only worry is getting caught with the guillotine of Gomez in the later stages of the fight when he's tired and his TD's become less technical.
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                                          • gabe
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-12-11
                                            • 7405

                                            #1176
                                            Originally posted by Jesus Christ
                                            Useless is being overvalued in this spot..Moraga is gonna have a sizable wrestling advantage and a slight striking advantage in my eyes...I'm not overly concerned with Moraga getting caught in the guard of Gomez...I think he can put Gomez there and keep him there by doing heavy work from half guard...my only worry is getting caught with the guillotine of Gomez in the later stages of the fight when he's tired and his TD's become less technical.
                                            Moraga barely beat a guy who is 0-3. I don't think he can make it three rounds without getting submitted. This is Gomez's first fight at 125 and the opposition he beat at 135 weren't all big cans like Moraga's opponents.
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                                            • El Nino
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 05-03-12
                                              • 18426

                                              #1177
                                              JC will you post what Vegas has for odds on Benson Henderson?
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                                              • Jesus Christ
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 05-25-11
                                                • 935

                                                #1178
                                                Originally posted by gabe
                                                Moraga barely beat a guy who is 0-3. I don't think he can make it three rounds without getting submitted. This is Gomez's first fight at 125 and the opposition he beat at 135 weren't all big cans like Moraga's opponents.
                                                That very well may prove to be the case...I'm just taking the +160 on a guy I don't think Gomez will be able to take down when he wants to.
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                                                • Jesus Christ
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 05-25-11
                                                  • 935

                                                  #1179
                                                  Originally posted by El Niño
                                                  JC will you post what Vegas has for odds on Benson Henderson?
                                                  Yea I can do that.
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                                                  • gabe
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-12-11
                                                    • 7405

                                                    #1180
                                                    Originally posted by Jesus Christ
                                                    That very well may prove to be the case...I'm just taking the +160 on a guy I don't think Gomez will be able to take down when he wants to.
                                                    I can see Moraga taking a decision or even getting lucky with a KO, but more than likely Gomez ends it with a sub. He can take a close decision, too, but if it goes the distance, it might be Moraga's... Really hoping Gomez comes through, though.
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                                                    • beermankirk
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-17-09
                                                      • 1512

                                                      #1181
                                                      The places with william hill, and moblie william hill vegas betting booths, have all undercards... lots of props.

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                                                      • NunyaBidness
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 07-26-09
                                                        • 9345

                                                        #1182
                                                        Originally posted by beermankirk
                                                        The places with william hill, and moblie william hill vegas betting booths, have all undercards... lots of props.

                                                        http://www.williamhill.us/find-a-book#map_top
                                                        Can you post a list of props available? i don't see them on that website. Been thinking about gaming their app for a while, props make it more worthwhile.
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                                                        • DirtyX
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 06-05-11
                                                          • 686

                                                          #1183
                                                          Originally posted by El Niño
                                                          JC will you post what Vegas has for odds on Benson Henderson?
                                                          That would be much appreciated as I will be there next weekend. Thanks.
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                                                          • Jesus Christ
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 05-25-11
                                                            • 935

                                                            #1184
                                                            Just got Vegas...my drivers name was Jesus...that's gotta be a good sign right?
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                                                            • Vaughany
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 03-07-10
                                                              • 45563

                                                              #1185
                                                              Originally posted by Jesus Christ
                                                              Just got Vegas...my drivers name was Jesus...that's gotta be a good sign right?
                                                              haha HUUUUUUUUUUGE SIGN!
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                                                              • gabe
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-12-11
                                                                • 7405

                                                                #1186
                                                                I'm gonna be watching the fights from the FOX Sports Suite at the Staples Center -- Can't wait!!
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                                                                • PunisherIND
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-24-11
                                                                  • 4980

                                                                  #1187
                                                                  Originally posted by gabe
                                                                  I'm gonna be watching the fights from the FOX Sports Suite at the Staples Center -- Can't wait!!
                                                                  nice gabe. you'll probably run into a couple of fighters.
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                                                                  • gabe
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-12-11
                                                                    • 7405

                                                                    #1188
                                                                    Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                                                    nice gabe. you'll probably run into a couple of fighters.
                                                                    might run into 'em, might even run over 'em, if they don't make me $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ha
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                                                                    • NunyaBidness
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 07-26-09
                                                                      • 9345

                                                                      #1189
                                                                      Originally posted by gabe
                                                                      might run into 'em, might even run over 'em, if they don't make me $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ha
                                                                      hahaha
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                                                                      • PunisherIND
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 02-24-11
                                                                        • 4980

                                                                        #1190
                                                                        Originally posted by gabe
                                                                        might run into 'em, might even run over 'em, if they don't make me $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ha
                                                                        lol. i was in AC for the bellator event where mike chandler beat patricky friere in the tournament. my buddy had a good chunk on friere, who lost. so we run into chandler (with his family) in a restaurant after the fights. my friend kept saying he was going to stomp out chandler. it was hilarious. he was talking loud enough that it got a little awkward for everyone, esp. our wives. lol. next day he claims someone laced his drink and he couldnt remember anything (he also didnt remember yelling "you da man, jimmy smith" in the mens room, which was another awkward moment).
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