What would the line be: Diaz vs Miller

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  • danso
    SBR MVP
    • 10-26-10
    • 2224

    #1
    What would the line be: Diaz vs Miller
    What do you guys think the line would be if Jason Miller and Nick Diaz actually fought? And do you think the weight they settle to fight at would have a big effect on the line?
  • The HOFF
    SBR MVP
    • 07-02-08
    • 4847

    #2
    I don't think this fight will happen because "Homie is scurred." My guess would be Diaz -215 Miller +175 or somewhere around that to open.
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    • Vrakas
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 02-27-10
      • 627

      #3
      miller would take him down and ground out a decision.diaz is never going to fight him.
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      • mightyminnow
        SBR High Roller
        • 07-09-10
        • 186

        #4
        if Mayhem ever wanted to fight him all he had to do was cut weight. simple as that.

        agree with Hoff's line assessment and Diaz wins any which way he wants.
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        • clarkd32
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 09-15-06
          • 863

          #5
          i think Hoffs line is about right... unless Miller comes down to diaz weight class... then maybe a little higher for diaz since miller might have trouble cutting that much weight.
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          • thefastship
            SBR High Roller
            • 11-29-10
            • 219

            #6
            Guys...why would a champion MOVE UP in weight to fight someone that does not have a name? (besides bully beat down fame)

            That is like Edgar moving up in weight to fight GSP, or GSP moving up to fight Silva at his weight. Crazy....if mayhem wants the fight so bad...he fights on the champs terms. Diaz has two fights he can do where the other fighter has a better ranking than Mayhem....Why would he go slumming out of his weight class?

            Check the MMA forums...all you see is Diaz coverage. The only and I mean only Mayhem coverage you see is when he makes a youtube rant about fighting Diaz.
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            • Poppa Catfish
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              • 09-22-10
              • 3352

              #7
              Originally posted by thefastship
              Guys...why would a champion MOVE UP in weight to fight someone that does not have a name? (besides bully beat down fame)

              That is like Edgar moving up in weight to fight GSP, or GSP moving up to fight Silva at his weight. Crazy....if mayhem wants the fight so bad...he fights on the champs terms. Diaz has two fights he can do where the other fighter has a better ranking than Mayhem....Why would he go slumming out of his weight class?

              Check the MMA forums...all you see is Diaz coverage. The only and I mean only Mayhem coverage you see is when he makes a youtube rant about fighting Diaz.
              Well lots of hardcore fans think GSP absolutely has to move up to face Silva. It is crazy, but you have to realize that in this case its not as crazy seeing as how incredibly shallow most of Strikeforce's weight classes are. They already are out of name threats, and that is after throwing up 4 wins in his last 10 fights Cyborg. The Miller fight has a great story line and a fighter with a little name value, seems like a good way to use both fighters.

              Also Diaz would be smart just to take the fight at the higher weight class, either way he is going to get smothered, at least at the higher weight class he has a decent excuse. Great way to make it a no lose situation.
              Last edited by Poppa Catfish; 02-02-11, 08:06 AM.
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              • thefastship
                SBR High Roller
                • 11-29-10
                • 219

                #8
                The Daley fight is the must make fight. Daley is a top ten opponent according to the rankings released today on mmaweekly. That fight will be a great barometer on where Nick Diaz now ranks compared to the current UFC class.

                Keep in mind in regards to GSP and Anderson Silva...they are two current champions that are in talks to fight for big money. I mean big money. Huge PPV numbers.

                Diaz vs Miller would be free on Showtime and Miller is not ranked anywhere. From a business point of view, Diaz would be stupid to take the fight regardless of if he wants to fight him or not.
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                • Poppa Catfish
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                  • 09-22-10
                  • 3352

                  #9
                  If beating Scott Smith makes you top 10, then there has to be 20 or so fighters in the top 10.

                  Leaving the UFC really does wonders to your ranking, that much is true.
                  Last edited by Poppa Catfish; 02-02-11, 11:15 AM.
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                  • Vaughany
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 03-07-10
                    • 45563

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
                    If beating Scott Smith makes you top 10, then there has to be 20 or so fighters in the top 10.

                    Leaving the UFC really does wonders to your ranking, that much is true.
                    WTF Stop sucking Dana White's balls bro! Didnt u see what Daley did to Koscheck (after the bell)!
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                    • freelee
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 02-02-10
                      • 751

                      #11
                      Miller has little chance Daley is a much bigger threat
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                      • Poppa Catfish
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                        • 09-22-10
                        • 3352

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Vaughany

                        WTF Stop sucking Dana White's balls bro! Didnt u see what Daley did to Koscheck (after the bell)!
                        Yeah bro but Koscheck is such a can! Look at that lack of head movement (after the bell), plus the guy was so passive (after the bell)

                        He does have a heck of a chin, I'll give him that. After all Daley hit him squarely on the chin with a sucker punch, but I still think he is a total can.
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                        • Vaughany
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                          • 03-07-10
                          • 45563

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Poppa Catfish
                          Yeah bro but Koscheck is such a can! Look at that lack of head movement (after the bell), plus the guy was so passive (after the bell)

                          He does have a heck of a chin, I'll give him that. After all Daley hit him squarely on the chin with a sucker punch, but I still think he is a total can.
                          ha yeah Daley definitley deserves to be ahead of Carlos CANdit!
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                          • thefastship
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 11-29-10
                            • 219

                            #14
                            The rankings are all bs anyway. Look at the top ten WW's. I think that Cyborg could hang or beat Condit,Lytle, and Koscheck.
                            WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION (170-pound limit)
                            1. Georges St-Pierre
                            2. Jon Fitch
                            3. Jake Shields
                            4. Thiago Alves
                            5. Josh Koscheck
                            6. Nick Diaz
                            7. Paul Daley
                            8. Martin Kampmann
                            9. Carlos Condit
                            10. Chris Lytle
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                            • mightyminnow
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                              • 07-09-10
                              • 186

                              #15
                              here you guys go.........

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                              • ROYAJA8
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                                • 10-23-09
                                • 2069

                                #16
                                -500 for Diaz

                                +350 for Miller....

                                Miller has no advantages
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