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  • Educ8d Degener8
    SBR MVP
    • 01-12-10
    • 3177

    #491
    Liking that Tyson Griffin play, and Hallman as well (and I'm a Karo fan)...

    Tempted to parlay Mr. Wonderful with something (maybe Machida or Saints ML).

    GL bud. I'm really stoked for this card.
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    • Eccocide
      SBR MVP
      • 01-12-09
      • 2126

      #492
      Good to see u solidly on BJ as well. I will also be on Tyson in some capacity.
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      • Chairib
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 03-08-10
        • 917

        #493
        You guys ever watch the TV show Men of a Certain Age? It's got Ray Romano playing a recovering gambling addict.
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        • illmatick
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-05-09
          • 5456

          #494
          Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
          Liking that Tyson Griffin play, and Hallman as well (and I'm a Karo fan)... Tempted to parlay Mr. Wonderful with something (maybe Machida or Saints ML). GL bud. I'm really stoked for this card.
          Originally posted by Eccocide
          Good to see u solidly on BJ as well. I will also be on Tyson in some capacity.

          gl guys, kinda surprised more money hasn't come in on Tyson yet, still think the line will close in the -235 range.

          Originally posted by Chairib
          You guys ever watch the TV show Men of a Certain Age? It's got Ray Romano playing a recovering gambling addict.
          haven't seen it but I'll try and find some torrents , My dvr is currently flooded with a few shows I still need to catch up on.

          Boardwalk Empire, best new HBO show imo !
          The Walking dead...new zombie show on amc, better than I expected
          Dexter... show is fading but still watchable

          Condit vs Mcdonald right now on spike, have to relive that awful beat I took on the distance prop
          Last edited by illmatick; 11-17-10, 09:19 PM.
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          • HauntingTheHoly
            SBR MVP
            • 04-28-10
            • 1397

            #495
            Sergio vs. Paul is a dead even fight. Is there any reason to believe Sergio is going to have gained significant ground for this rematch? The first fight was dead even and they're the same fighters. I can't imagine what reasoning one would use to bet on either fighter, it's clearly a coin flip to me, and at -115 a piece, no value at all that I can see.
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            • southmadejd
              SBR MVP
              • 08-27-09
              • 1059

              #496
              Bro, I can't believe you said Dexter is fading. Best show on TV!!! I like Boardwalk Empire as well, gotta check out the Walking Dead. So you don't have any plays for this Strikeforce Card?
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              • illmatick
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-05-09
                • 5456

                #497
                sorry, nothing for strikeforce, I liked spiritwolf and Wilcox but stayed away.


                updated plays..... wasn't impressed with the sergio/williams weigh-in...buying out of my Martinez bet



                1.Sergio Martinez -115 x1

                UFC:

                1.Aaron Simpson +135 x.5
                2.Dennis Hallman +130 x.75 +110 x.5
                3.Tyson Griffin -205 x.75
                4.B.J Penn -155 x2.25
                5.Matt Brown +125 x.5
                6.Lauzon +190 x.25

                Hughes wins by 3 round decision +265 x.5
                Lauzon wins by 3 round decision +437 x.25

                Paul Williams -110 x2
                Williams wins by 12 rnd decision +208 x.25

                not liking what I'm seeing in the Griffen line, appears to suggest Griffen is going to get out wrestled, might just end up buying out.
                Last edited by illmatick; 11-20-10, 02:06 PM.
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                • raidersfan
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-13-07
                  • 1647

                  #498
                  Originally posted by illmatick
                  sorry, nothing for strikeforce, I liked spiritwolf and Wilcox but stayed away.


                  updated plays..... wasn't impressed with the sergio/williams weigh-in...buying out of my Martinez bet



                  1.Sergio Martinez -115 x1

                  UFC:

                  1.Aaron Simpson +135 x.5
                  2.Dennis Hallman +130 x.75 +110 x.5
                  3.Tyson Griffin -205 x.75
                  4.B.J Penn -155 x2.25
                  5.Matt Brown +125 x.5
                  6.Lauzon +190 x.25

                  Hughes wins by 3 round decision +265 x.5
                  Lauzon wins by 3 round decision +437 x.25

                  Paul Williams -110 x2
                  Williams wins by 12 rnd decision +208 x.25

                  not liking what I'm seeing in the Griffen line, appears to suggest Griffen is going to get out wrestled, might just end up buying out.
                  I was leaning on paul williams for tonight, but would like to see the weight ins. Any link?
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                  • illmatick
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-05-09
                    • 5456

                    #499
                    weigh ins are up on youtube.

                    added

                    Brown +115 x.75
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                    • Vaughany
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 03-07-10
                      • 45563

                      #500
                      Good luck tonight Ill, let's hope Hallman gets us off to a good start! I know its not big units but what are ur reasons for Brown pick? I've stayed away from betting on either to win and just gone for the over 2.5 and to decision props. Im a big Matt Brown fan and have bet against him before and lost in the Wilks fight, and bet on him against Lytle and lost so he's one I should avoid betting on!
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                      • illmatick
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-05-09
                        • 5456

                        #501
                        Brown's high volume punch output usually scores well the judges, I see a 29-28 fight where Brown comes on strong late. also like the possibility of him catching Foster off of his back.... Foster/ Lytle was more than a fluke sub. Brown not quite the grappler as Lytle but still think he threatens Foster with his guard .

                        Foster's best shot will come in the first round imo.

                        I also wouldn't put much stock in his win over Brock Larson, Larson has been on the decline since his previous loss to Mike Peirce, recently losing to Tarec as well.

                        being competitive early against Rick Story is probably his greatest achievement in the UFC, Forrest Petz didn't have much to offer.
                        Last edited by illmatick; 11-20-10, 06:06 PM. Reason: l
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                        • lasker
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-27-10
                          • 1683

                          #502
                          BOL Ill!
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                          • illmatick
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-05-09
                            • 5456

                            #503
                            thanks Lasker, bol!

                            Originally posted by illmatick
                            not liking what I'm seeing in the Griffen line, appears to suggest Griffen is going to get out wrestled, might just end up buying out.
                            , early .75 unit loss

                            pinny was more than welcoming Griffen money right after the weigh-ins.should have been the only thing I needed to see.

                            few long shot parlays still open with Lentz
                            Last edited by illmatick; 11-20-10, 08:02 PM.
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                            • lasker
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-27-10
                              • 1683

                              #504
                              from all the play-by-play reports I've seen, the decision was a robbery (or at least highly questionable). Sherdog and a number of other sites scored it 30-27 Griffin, as did one of the judges.
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                              • Chairib
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 03-08-10
                                • 917

                                #505
                                I think the Brown/Foster fight could be fotn. I'm not very sure whose going to win this one, it could go either way in my eyes.
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                                • illmatick
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-05-09
                                  • 5456

                                  #506
                                  Originally posted by Chairib
                                  I think the Brown/Foster fight could be fotn. I'm not very sure whose going to win this one, it could go either way in my eyes.
                                  I thought Brown looked good early, left his neck out for his 3rd straight submission loss.
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                                  • illmatick
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-05-09
                                    • 5456

                                    #507
                                    Originally posted by illmatick
                                    sorry, nothing for strikeforce, I liked spiritwolf and Wilcox but stayed away.


                                    updated plays..... wasn't impressed with the sergio/williams weigh-in...buying out of my Martinez bet



                                    1.Sergio Martinez -115 x1

                                    UFC:

                                    1.Aaron Simpson +135 x.5
                                    2.Dennis Hallman +130 x.75 +110 x.5
                                    3.Tyson Griffin -205 x.75
                                    4.B.J Penn -155 x2.25
                                    5.Matt Brown +125 x.5
                                    6.Lauzon +190 x.25

                                    Hughes wins by 3 round decision +265 x.5
                                    Lauzon wins by 3 round decision +437 x.25

                                    Paul Williams -110 x2
                                    Williams wins by 12 rnd decision +208 x.25

                                    not liking what I'm seeing in the Griffen line, appears to suggest Griffen is going to get out wrestled, might just end up buying out.
                                    had my worst night in over two months. changing my pick to williams is what did me in. I've bet against Paul in every fight since the first match with Quintana.

                                    should be around a -1.15 unit loss
                                    Last edited by illmatick; 11-21-10, 08:36 PM.
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                                    • Chairib
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 03-08-10
                                      • 917

                                      #508
                                      Originally posted by illmatick
                                      I thought Brown looked good early, left his neck out for his 3rd straight submission loss.
                                      Foster's got a lot of power and I was really unsure how Brown would handle it.
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                                      • illmatick
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-05-09
                                        • 5456

                                        #509
                                        Froch wins by 12 rnd decision +271 x.75
                                        Abraham wins in round 1-6 +446 .25

                                        hoping Froch can put enough rounds in the bank before Arthur opens up from his shell(usually not until the 4-5th), only concern is Arthur possibly starting off a little faster than usual considering he's coming off of his first career loss. Froch should have the chin to weather the late storm, didn't like the way he gassed a bit against Kesslar but I think he'll be a bit more reserved with his punches considering Arthur's counter-punching ability.

                                        So i like Arthur to either knock him out sometime in the first half of the fight or Froch to take a close decision where he slightly out boxes abraham down the stretch .

                                        might have a late play later tonight, thinking about "Not Marquez inside distance" at -129
                                        Last edited by illmatick; 11-27-10, 03:51 PM.
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                                        • snake11eyes
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 07-28-10
                                          • 618

                                          #510
                                          Originally posted by illmatick
                                          Froch wins by 12 rnd decision +271 x.75
                                          Im liking this Froch by decision for almost 3-1.
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                                          • illmatick
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-05-09
                                            • 5456

                                            #511
                                            Originally posted by illmatick

                                            Froch wins by 12 rnd decision +271 x.75
                                            Abraham wins in round 1-6 +446 .25

                                            hoping Froch can put enough rounds in the bank before Arthur opens up from his shell(usually not until the 4-5th), only concern is Arthur possibly starting off a little faster than usual considering he's coming off of his first career loss. Froch should have the chin to weather the late storm, didn't like the way he gassed a bit against Kesslar but I think he'll be a bit more reserved with his punches considering Arthur's counter-punching ability. So i like Arthur to either knock him out sometime in the first half of the fight or Froch to take a close decision where he slightly out boxes abraham down the stretch . might have a late play later tonight, thinking about "Not Marquez inside distance" at -129
                                            too easy

                                            +1.75 units with Froch by UD, made slighly more with a few other plays I didn't have time to list

                                            Originally posted by snake11eyes
                                            Im liking this Froch by decision for almost 3-1.
                                            played it earlier in the week as well, I got +402 at 5dimes
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                                            • snake11eyes
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 07-28-10
                                              • 618

                                              #512
                                              Nice call ill, I wish I had got in at +402 I would have put a couple more units on it.
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                                              • illmatick
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-05-09
                                                • 5456

                                                #513
                                                Originally posted by snake11eyes
                                                Nice call ill, I wish I had got in at +402 I would have put a couple more units on it.
                                                thanks snake, the line actually moved back into the +340 range before the fight.

                                                small action plays for tonight

                                                FEMALE FIGHTER OF THE YEAR AWARD
                                                MIESHA TATE +130x.25

                                                K.O of the year
                                                Machida/shogun EV x.25
                                                RICH FRANKLIN VS CHUCK LIDDELL +900 to win around one unit
                                                Last edited by illmatick; 12-01-10, 09:00 PM.
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                                                • illmatick
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                  • 5456

                                                  #514
                                                  lol, basically broke even last night..cashed on knockout of the year but lost the female award

                                                  Once I saw Tate shift into the betting favorite I swore that shit was rigged for her to win.
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                                                  • illmatick
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-05-09
                                                    • 5456

                                                    #515
                                                    Kyle Watson -160 x2
                                                    Aaron Wilkinson +125 x2
                                                    Jonathan Brookins -215 x1
                                                    Will Campuzano -135 x1
                                                    Matt Lindland +140 x.5
                                                    Nam Phan +115 x.5

                                                    plan on adding a few parlays with Antonio Silva.
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                                                    • illmatick
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                      • 5456

                                                      #516
                                                      Originally posted by illmatick
                                                      Kyle Watson -160 x2
                                                      Aaron Wilkinson +125 x2
                                                      Jonathan Brookins -215 x1
                                                      Will Campuzano -135 x1
                                                      Matt Lindland +140 x.5
                                                      Nam Phan +115 x.5

                                                      plan on adding a few parlays with Antonio Silva.
                                                      Wilkinson, Brookins and Watson all moving my way, potential arb opportunity with Watson...now up to -195

                                                      don't think Phan should be +145. 3rd round stoppage for phan is likely...Garcia doesn't have anything left past 2.

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                                                      parlay x1.5
                                                      Antonio Silva -390
                                                      Dan Herderson -255

                                                      Jim Miller -110 x.75
                                                      Struve -160 x1
                                                      Grove +290 x.25
                                                      Last edited by illmatick; 12-02-10, 09:13 PM.
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                                                      • Eccocide
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-12-09
                                                        • 2126

                                                        #517
                                                        We have a lot in common this weekend. Hopefully thats a good thing lol.
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                                                        • illmatick
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-05-09
                                                          • 5456

                                                          #518
                                                          Originally posted by Eccocide
                                                          We have a lot in common this weekend. Hopefully thats a good thing lol.
                                                          usually that's a good thing , only pick we seem to disagree on is Watson.

                                                          added

                                                          Fredson Paixao -165..to win one unit

                                                          recap...

                                                          Kyle Watson -160 x2
                                                          Aaron Wilkinson +125 x2
                                                          Fredson Paixao -165 x1.65
                                                          Jonathan Brookins -215 x1
                                                          Will Campuzano -135 x1
                                                          Matt Lindland +140 x.5
                                                          Nam Phan +115 x.5
                                                          Grove +290 x.25

                                                          parlay x1.5
                                                          Antonio Silva -390
                                                          Dan Herderson -255
                                                          Last edited by illmatick; 12-03-10, 01:43 PM.
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                                                          • Educ8d Degener8
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-12-10
                                                            • 3177

                                                            #519
                                                            Glad to see you got Wilkinson as a dog. Like the value there, and he's EV now.

                                                            Ill -- for the life of me, I can't figure it out... why has Babalu been bet down?! I suppose his line was attractive enough to garner some action... but I just don't see a way for him to win this.

                                                            Babalu doesn't even seem confident in this interview:


                                                            GL on your plays homez.
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                                                            • illmatick
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-05-09
                                                              • 5456

                                                              #520
                                                              1-3 Start to the night ...Watson my only cash so far.

                                                              not buying the babalu hype either edu, I think we might see some late money on Dan.

                                                              adding on to my original parlay
                                                              x1.5
                                                              Henderson -255
                                                              Silva-400


                                                              Grove +255 x.5
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                                                              • lasker
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-27-10
                                                                • 1683

                                                                #521
                                                                This McKenzie guy is something else. All his opponents know the guillotine attempts are coming, it's just about his only move, and yet they are completely helpless to prevent it.
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                                                                • illmatick
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                                  • 5456

                                                                  #522
                                                                  I was surprised how easily he took Wilkinson down, had him down in less than 10 seconds.
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                                                                  • illmatick
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-05-09
                                                                    • 5456

                                                                    #523
                                                                    Originally posted by illmatick

                                                                    don't think Phan should be +145. 3rd round stoppage for phan is likely...Garcia doesn't have anything left past 2.
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                                                                    • illmatick
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-05-09
                                                                      • 5456

                                                                      #524
                                                                      Originally posted by illmatick
                                                                      usually that's a good thing , only pick we seem to disagree on is Watson. recap...
                                                                      Kyle Watson -160 x2
                                                                      Aaron Wilkinson +125 x2
                                                                      Fredson Paixao -165 x1.65
                                                                      Jonathan Brookins -215 x1
                                                                      Will Campuzano -135 x1
                                                                      Matt Lindland +140 x.5
                                                                      Nam Phan +115 x.5
                                                                      Grove +290 x.25
                                                                      parlay x1.5 Antonio Silva -390 Dan Herderson -255
                                                                      Originally posted by illmatick
                                                                      1-3 Start to the night ...Watson my only cash so far. not buying the babalu hype either edu, I think we might see some late money on Dan. adding on to my original parlay

                                                                      x1.5 Henderson -255
                                                                      Silva-400

                                                                      Grove +255 x.5
                                                                      finished ahead for the strikeforce card but took a nasty hit in the UFC...should be close to -3.5 units on the night.
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                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563

                                                                        #525
                                                                        Just read your preview on the main page for 124...good stuff...I agree that all of the main card fights except McCorkle Struve have big potential of going the distance. Miller/Oliveira has best chance I think of going the distance tho.
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