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  • Bread
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-16-08
    • 23726

    #1
    UFC 104 - Keep on movin' don't stop NOOOO!!
    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


    UFC 104 is upon us, and I’ve got my work cut out for me if I want to continue the amazing beating that I have been putting on the books’ MMA offerings. There are a couple of really nice dogs that I just can’t turn my back on. This isn’t easy; I just make it look that way, folks.

    Lyoto Machida -410
    Mauricio Rua +330

    I would swear to God that I was about to watch a Bruce Lee movie if you told me that I was going to witness “Shogun vs. The Dragon.” But no, it’s just an amazing battle of 205’s in a featured five round match-up. That’s all.

    I’ll be honest, I was having a bit of trouble capping this one. My brain was racked, and I was forced to incorporate some unique methods to determine the winner of this fight. After weeks of studying, I took into account every single dynamic, skill and weakness of both fighters, and brought in two actors to mimic the path that this bout is most likely to take on. Leaving no detail unnoticed, I was even sure to make sure that my MMA Guinea Pigs were of Brazilian descent, to reflect what we could see on Saturday night to a tee. The results of this experiment were astonishing, and I am here to share them with you. Machida (15-0-0) is represented by the actor in black, while Rua (18-3-0) is represented in red.




    It doesn’t get any clearer than that, does it? You can see Machida using his unorthodox style to avoid Rua’s attacks, which will frustrate Rua as it has many others before him. Machida will perform a little ground and pound on Rua’s face, and eventually extract a tap out via arm bar. I am 100% convinced that this extensive study will yield those exact results. Machida remains unbeaten.

    Cain Velasquez -380
    Ben Rothwell +270

    I like two big upsets on the main card, starting with Rothwell (30-6-0). If I can hit at least one upset I will be up. And set. But not upset. Did that make sense?

    I know that Velasquez (6-0-0) is a bad man. I realize that this could end badly for ya boy Bread, but at these odds, I think that Rothwell is absolutely worth a shot. Velasquez didn’t wow me by any means in his last fight against Cheick Kongo. At 6’1” 240 lbs, he is an imposing figure. What’s scary is that he will look small compared to Rothwell.

    Big Ben Rothwell towers at 6’4” 265 lbs. 21 of his 30 victories have resulted from early stoppage beatings. I’m willing to play +270 that he can do some damage via fists and pull the sweet upset.

    Gleison Tibau -130
    Josh Neer +110


    Calm down Josh Neer





    Josh Neer (25-8-1) is nowhere as good as he thinks he is, but he’s still better than Tibau (29-6-0). It’s Tibau to get crazy up in here, and my payday is Neer! (Thank you, thank you. I worked on that for all of five seconds.)

    Tibau boasts victories over a slew of ho-hum type talent, and loses to guys who can fight like Nick Diaz, Tyson Griffin and Joe Stevenson. He has already said that he plans on being honored with the Submission of the Night award. The problem with that is that Neer can, and has beaten good wrestlers like Mac Danzig and Stevenson.

    I’m no fan of Neer, but I am a fan of Neer in this fight. I will also be throwing him in a parlay. Another play for this fight that catches my eye is for it to go the full three rounds (-180).

    Anthony Johnson -330
    Yoshiyuki Yoshida +270

    Anthony Johnson (7-2-0) is younger, quicker, stronger and hits harder than Yoshida (11-3-0). Yoshida is the only guy I’ve seen to get knocked out twice in one second (see Josh Koscheck highlight reel). Johnson should beat this Asian dog like a naughty Akita, right? Perhaps, but once again I’m taking a gamble on the upset here.

    Now I know what you’re thinking. “But Bread! You have such a great record fading Asian fighters in the UFC!” You are correct, but I have this nagging feeling that Yoshida can possibly endure an initial beating, and use his powers of sneakiness to slide Johnson into a fight-ending choke out. Perhaps Johnson’s recent injuries, weight-cutting and arrest have taken a toll on him. That’s the game plan, at least.


    Yes, I’m betting on this guy


  • yomama8000
    SBR Rookie
    • 05-17-08
    • 11

    #2
    If you want to make some money, take SHOGUN (risk invovled) but if he gets back to fight like the way he did in PRIDE, it looks like Machida might get his first loss. Also, take ROTHWELL as he is more experienced than an overrated velasquez
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    • brooks85
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-05-09
      • 44709

      #3
      good luck bread


      weigh-ins starting!!
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      • illmatick
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-05-09
        • 5456

        #4
        gl bread, looks like the mma forum is split on the cain fight, 3 for velazquez and 2 for rothwell

        who does robin like for that fight?
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        • Eccocide
          SBR MVP
          • 01-12-09
          • 2126

          #5
          Is it wrong that I am turned on by that video Bread? No seriously...is it?

          Hopefully fat man can cash for us and beat square head into a pulp!
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          • The HOFF
            SBR MVP
            • 07-02-08
            • 4847

            #6
            Rothwell carries all of his size right here...



            I'm surprised that your fear of Asians is subsiding. It has to help that Anthony Johnson came in 6 pounds over weight.
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            • MexicanStallion
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-08-08
              • 20429

              #7
              Good luck Bread
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              • Bread
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-16-08
                • 23726

                #8
                No idea who Robyn is on Ill...will find out tomorrow. My guess is Velasquez though.

                I'm liking my Yo play more and more.
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                • Robyn
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-05-08
                  • 9681

                  #9
                  Originally posted by illmatick
                  gl bread, looks like the mma forum is split on the cain fight, 3 for velazquez and 2 for rothwell

                  who does robin like for that fight?
                  I am leaning toward Velasquez, but I don't do my studying until Saturday morning for every card. I will have a better answer tomorrow.
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                  • PinTheDonkey
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 10-22-09
                    • 60

                    #10
                    Who is up next for Machida after he dances around Shogun and then submits him?
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                    • RobbReport
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-22-09
                      • 2042

                      #11
                      if both your underdogs hit then you are cheating.
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                      • Bread
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-16-08
                        • 23726

                        #12
                        Hey! You don't my write-ups too???
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                        • RobbReport
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-22-09
                          • 2042

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bread


                          haha ...sorry not this time and only because I really need my picks to hit.



                          if Yoshida wins I will uncontrollably sob myself to sleep.
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                          • Bread
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-16-08
                            • 23726

                            #14
                            I will pour a bit of my fizzy beverage out on the floor in your memory as Yo is choking out your overweight brutha.
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                            • Robyn
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-05-08
                              • 9681

                              #15
                              Haven't read your write-up yet but here are my picks. I'm on a lot of dogs this time around.

                              Lyoto Machida -405

                              Cain Velasquez -310

                              Josh Neer +120

                              Spencer Fisher +205

                              Yoshiyuki Yoshida +265

                              Ryan Bader -405

                              Pat Barry -105

                              Chael Sonnen +180

                              Jorge Rivera +120

                              Razak Al-Hassan +110

                              Stefan Struve +180
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                              • Robyn
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 02-05-08
                                • 9681

                                #16
                                That video was dreadful. I am convinced the women in red is Asian and not Brazilian.

                                I am surprised you are on Rothwell, but I understand, it was a tough one to cap. Velasquez may not be able to handle Rothwell's heavy mitts and if this is the case, the fight will end in the first round with a Rothwell victory. But I am going with Velasquez in hopes he can make it past the first round and then take Rothwell to the ground when he starts fatting out.
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                                • Bread
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-16-08
                                  • 23726

                                  #17
                                  Back off Robyn. Those woman were awesome. I loved the women in red.
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                                  • PingPong
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-10-08
                                    • 988

                                    #18
                                    rothwell seems like a good value bet
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                                    • Bread
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 03-16-08
                                      • 23726

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by PingPong
                                      rothwell seems like a good value bet
                                      One time for the big boy
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                                      • Robyn
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 02-05-08
                                        • 9681

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Bread
                                        Back off Robyn. Those woman were awesome. I loved the women in red.
                                        Your a dummy and you need to curb you're sense of humor or there going to make fun of you.
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                                        • MrMonkey
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-09-08
                                          • 2278

                                          #21
                                          What nationality are you? You seem so sweet but I got this impression that if you really got pissed off you could rip someone's head off with your bare hands?
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                                          • Bread
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-16-08
                                            • 23726

                                            #22
                                            Filthy Bermudian.
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                                            • squallsquall
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 05-24-09
                                              • 273

                                              #23
                                              Do you do betting for a living?
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                                              • Bread
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-16-08
                                                • 23726

                                                #24
                                                I live to bet, but I dont bet to make a living. No.
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                                                • GoldRush7
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-27-09
                                                  • 2014

                                                  #25
                                                  Nice write up as usual Bread
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                                                  • Bread
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 03-16-08
                                                    • 23726

                                                    #26
                                                    Thanks GR7. God bless our plays tonight.
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                                                    • Bread
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 03-16-08
                                                      • 23726

                                                      #27
                                                      Rothwell 2.5 units
                                                      Neer 5 units
                                                      Stevenson 5 units
                                                      Yoshida 2.5 units
                                                      Hardonk 5 units

                                                      Parlay - Neer/Yoshida/Bader
                                                      2.5 units to win 21.5 units

                                                      Still scheming here.
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                                                      • MexicanStallion
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 09-08-08
                                                        • 20429

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Bread
                                                        Rothwell 2.5 units
                                                        Neer 5 units
                                                        Stevenson 5 units
                                                        Yoshida 2.5 units
                                                        Hardonk 5 units

                                                        Parlay - Neer/Yoshida/Bader
                                                        2.5 units to win 21.5 units

                                                        Still scheming here.
                                                        I am on Hardonk. Opposite for the rest. Good luck though
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                                                        • Bread
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-16-08
                                                          • 23726

                                                          #29
                                                          Opposite for ALL the rest, Mex???
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                                                          • MexicanStallion
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 09-08-08
                                                            • 20429

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Bread
                                                            Opposite for ALL the rest, Mex???
                                                            Yes sir. If you don't mind I will post my plays here. You are probably in good shape though. You are the MMA Pro
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                                                            • Bread
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 03-16-08
                                                              • 23726

                                                              #31
                                                              Post away pally!
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                                                              • MexicanStallion
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 09-08-08
                                                                • 20429

                                                                #32
                                                                Kyle Kingsbury -135
                                                                Stefan Struve +185
                                                                1 to win 3.87

                                                                Rob Kimmons -190
                                                                Kyle Kingsbury -135
                                                                1 to win 1.66

                                                                Yushin Okami -300
                                                                Rob Kimmons -190
                                                                1 to win 1.04

                                                                Yushin Okami -300
                                                                Antoni Hardonk -160
                                                                1 to win

                                                                Antoni Hardonk -160
                                                                Ryan Bader -475
                                                                1 to win 1.17

                                                                Ryan Bader -475
                                                                Anthony Johnson -340
                                                                1 to win 0.61

                                                                Spencer Fisher +205
                                                                Anthony Johnson -340
                                                                1 to win

                                                                Gleison Tibau -120
                                                                Spencer Fisher +205
                                                                1 to win 3.07

                                                                Cain Velasquez -365
                                                                Gleison Tibau -120
                                                                1 to win 1.44

                                                                Lyoto Machida -400
                                                                Cain Velasquez -365
                                                                2 to win 1.33
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                                                                • illmatick
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                                  • 5456

                                                                  #33
                                                                  why do you like Kingsbury so much?, I'm on him as well but just want to hear what you think
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                                                                  • Bread
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 03-16-08
                                                                    • 23726

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Parlay heaven. I might try this strategy sometime.
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                                                                    • raydog
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 11-07-07
                                                                      • 6984

                                                                      #35
                                                                      darks dont bark this hard....ever.



                                                                      +



                                                                      +

                                                                      Rothwell 2.5 units
                                                                      Neer 5 units
                                                                      Stevenson 5 units
                                                                      Yoshida 2.5 units
                                                                      Hardonk 5 units

                                                                      Parlay - Neer/Yoshida/Bader
                                                                      2.5 units to win 21.5 units

                                                                      =



                                                                      bread will be soggy from the crying later
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