UFC on ESPN+ 34: Overeem vs. Sakai (September 05, 2020)

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  • THE_LOCKSMITH
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    • 08-25-08
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    #1
    UFC on ESPN+ 34: Overeem vs. Sakai (September 05, 2020)


    ESPN+ 8:00 pm ET
    Alistair Overeem vs. Augusto Sakai
    Ovince Saint Preux vs. Alonzo Menifield
    Sijara Eubanks vs. Karol Rosa
    Michel Pereira vs. Zelim Imadaev
    Brian Kelleher vs. Kevin Natividad
    Thiago Moises vs. Jalin Turner

    ESPN+ 6:00 pm ET
    Andre Muniz vs. Bartosz Fabinski
    Viviane Araujo vs. Montana De La Rosa
    Alexander Romanov vs. Marcos Rogerio de Lima
    Cole Smith vs. Hunter Azure



  • LeMartin
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    • 11-17-19
    • 59

    #2
    Let me know if you guys have any early picks for this fight card, or if any fights in particular stand out to you!!

    Sarj (Sijara Eubanks) odds aren't posted on BetOnline yet, but +130 is looking nice to me
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    • Hugo de Naranja
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      • 04-14-16
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      #3
      Originally posted by LeMartin
      Let me know if you guys have any early picks for this fight card, or if any fights in particular stand out to you!!

      Sarj (Sijara Eubanks) odds aren't posted on BetOnline yet, but +130 is looking nice to me
      I'm also looking at some dogs for this card. I've got bets on Romanov (+160), Turner (+172), and Saint Preux ITD (+230) so far.
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      • WolfTicketDealer
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        • 11-05-17
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        #4
        Originally posted by LeMartin
        Let me know if you guys have any early picks for this fight card, or if any fights in particular stand out to you!!

        Sarj (Sijara Eubanks) odds aren't posted on BetOnline yet, but +130 is looking nice to me
        Really like Imadaev. OSP for a small play
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        • Hugo de Naranja
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          • 04-14-16
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          #5
          Tell me more about the Imadaev play. Both guys seem difficult to trust but I guess in those situations it's better to take the + number.
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          • magpie878
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            #6
            I don't know anything about Menifield.

            I thought OSP looked pretty crappy, if not worse in his return. A flash or two, but super disappointing.

            Any info on Menifield to offer, anyone?
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            • WolfTicketDealer
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              • 11-05-17
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              #7
              Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
              Tell me more about the Imadaev play. Both guys seem difficult to trust but I guess in those situations it's better to take the + number.
              Think Imadaev is the better technical striker with a better gas tank. Pereira is R1 or bust IMO, his striking is wild and consumes a lot of cardio. Also don't expect too much grappling out of Pereira as I think that'll gas him out quicker. I will credit Pereira as his cardio did look better in the Sanchez fight, but shot Diego isn't able to push the pace like I think Imadaev will be able to.
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              • hankcream
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                • 06-30-10
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                #8
                -140 looks to be a bargain for Overeem. I don't think Sakai poses anywhere near the threat of Walt Harris or Rozenstruik. Just my opinion I think Overeem wins easily but going to wait until after weigh ins to make the play.
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                • WolfTicketDealer
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                  • 11-05-17
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by hankcream
                  -140 looks to be a bargain for Overeem. I don't think Sakai poses anywhere near the threat of Walt Harris or Rozenstruik. Just my opinion I think Overeem wins easily but going to wait until after weigh ins to make the play.
                  No doubt Reem has more skill, only question is if his chin holds up (I think it will here, but Reem is always at risk to get KTFO'd).
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                  • frankieunits2685
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                    • 11-19-17
                    • 3575

                    #10
                    I’ll be in Atlantic City for this one
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                    • PaperTrail07
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                      • 08-29-08
                      • 20423

                      #11
                      Reem is the play
                      Originally posted by WolfTicketDealer
                      No doubt Reem has more skill, only question is if his chin holds up (I think it will here, but Reem is always at risk to get KTFO'd).
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                      • LeMartin
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                        • 11-17-19
                        • 59

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                        I'm also looking at some dogs for this card. I've got bets on Romanov (+160), Turner (+172), and Saint Preux ITD (+230) so far.
                        I really liked OSP before he got Covid. Not entirely sure how the virus has affected him so I am iffy on him for this week. Might not touch that fight
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                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                          • 04-14-16
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by magpie878
                          I don't know anything about Menifield.

                          I thought OSP looked pretty crappy, if not worse in his return. A flash or two, but super disappointing.

                          Any info on Menifield to offer, anyone?
                          I've watched and taken detailed notes on all of his pro fights except his most recent one. I can email that to you if you want.
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                          • Hugo de Naranja
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                            • 04-14-16
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by LeMartin
                            I really liked OSP before he got Covid. Not entirely sure how the virus has affected him so I am iffy on him for this week. Might not touch that fight
                            That's a fair point. Could be a good Live Betting fight especially if you have a BOL account. Menifield is very dangerous early, but I think OSP pulls this out if he survives R1. Might get a better OSP line after R1 if he loses the round but doesn't get finished.
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                            • Hugo de Naranja
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                              • 04-14-16
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                              #15
                              I like Romanov Sub for a bet. Took some (+605) and you can still get (+584). De Lima has struggled with submission defense and is known to quit when he gets tired. He's been submitted in each of his last four losses (all in the UFC). Romanov also has a slight majority of his career wins coming by way of submission.
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                              • PaperTrail07
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                                • 08-29-08
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                                #16
                                Agree its a good hedge but I think De Lima Wins.... I also see some value on Azure-I think he will come in sharp and motivated.....
                                Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                I like Romanov Sub for a bet. Took some (+605) and you can still get (+584). De Lima has struggled with submission defense and is known to quit when he gets tired. He's been submitted in each of his last four losses (all in the UFC). Romanov also has a slight majority of his career wins coming by way of submission.
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                                • frankieunits2685
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                  Agree its a good hedge but I think De Lima Wins.... I also see some value on Azure-I think he will come in sharp and motivated.....
                                  I'm thinking the same for Hunter. I was on him last time when he lost. However, he's sitting around -200 right now and that's too much for me to lay on him.
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                                  • PaperTrail07
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                                    • 08-29-08
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                                    #18
                                    Yeah the bet starts to seem iffy as the number goes over 200 i will agree there......cant be laying juice like that and expecting great results...
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                                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                                      • 04-14-16
                                      • 14140

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                      Agree its a good hedge but I think De Lima Wins.... I also see some value on Azure-I think he will come in sharp and motivated.....
                                      Think RDL is R1 or bust.
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                                      • hankcream
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                                        #20
                                        Didn't OSP just test positive for Covid 2 weeks ago? I doubt this fight takes place - see Cutelaba last week. If it does I'm taking Minnefield to win in round 1 +325
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                                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by hankcream
                                          Didn't OSP just test positive for Covid 2 weeks ago? I doubt this fight takes place - see Cutelaba last week. If it does I'm taking Minnefield to win in round 1 +325
                                          *Menifield
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                                          • hankcream
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                            I like Romanov Sub for a bet. Took some (+605) and you can still get (+584). De Lima has struggled with submission defense and is known to quit when he gets tired. He's been submitted in each of his last four losses (all in the UFC). Romanov also has a slight majority of his career wins coming by way of submission.
                                            Nice value play, the best I can find is +375. I think Romanov will get him to the ground, for your sake I hope he doesn't ground & pound him to a TKO
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                                            • Hugo de Naranja
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                                              #23
                                              If he does, I won't be too upset. Certainly value at the odds I've got.
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                                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by hankcream
                                                Didn't OSP just test positive for Covid 2 weeks ago? I doubt this fight takes place - see Cutelaba last week. If it does I'm taking Minnefield to win in round 1 +325
                                                What odds would you give me that the fight DOES take place? I'd be down to wager some BetPoints on it.
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                                                • Sanity Check
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by hankcream
                                                  Didn't OSP just test positive for Covid 2 weeks ago?
                                                  Tests are unreliable with false positives.

                                                  Dead parts of the virus are said to still be detectable weeks or months after a person is treated and cured.
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                                                  • hankcream
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                    What odds would you give me that the fight DOES take place? I'd be down to wager some BetPoints on it.
                                                    OSP must have cut at least 30 pounds from his last fight at heavyweight - he looked pretty fat against Rothwell.
                                                    I'd give you even money for 100 points
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                                                    • magpie878
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                      I've watched and taken detailed notes on all of his pro fights except his most recent one. I can email that to you if you want.
                                                      Much appreciated but not necessary. Was just looking for a few comments about him, and him being dangerous early is helpful. I'll just keep watching the thread.
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                                                      • frankieunits2685
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                                                        • 11-19-17
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                        I've watched and taken detailed notes on all of his pro fights except his most recent one. I can email that to you if you want.
                                                        I would love to see them. Message me on here. Thanks
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                                                        • LeMartin
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                                                          • 11-17-19
                                                          • 59

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                          What odds would you give me that the fight DOES take place? I'd be down to wager some BetPoints on it.
                                                          I'm down to wager some BetPoints too haha. This fight will definitely take place. We just don't know if OSP is going to be him normal self, or will be fatigue? We shall see.
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                                                          • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                            • 04-14-16
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by hankcream
                                                            OSP must have cut at least 30 pounds from his last fight at heavyweight - he looked pretty fat against Rothwell.
                                                            I'd give you even money for 100 points
                                                            We are on!
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                                                            • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                              • 04-14-16
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by magpie878
                                                              Much appreciated but not necessary. Was just looking for a few comments about him, and him being dangerous early is helpful. I'll just keep watching the thread.
                                                              He is dangerous early and trains with a great with at Fortis MMA. Good athlete but not great fight IQ or gastank.
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                                                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                • 04-14-16
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                                                                #32
                                                                Sounds the like Eubanks/Rosa is off due to weight cut complications for Rosa.
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                                                                • hankcream
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                                  We are on!
                                                                  Deal, I would love to see the fight, so I'm almost hoping I lose. If I do would you take take OSP not to lose I 1st round for 100? If Menefield wins in 1st round you would owe me 300?
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                                                                  • hankcream
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by hankcream
                                                                    Deal, I would love to see the fight, so I'm almost hoping I lose. If I do would you take take OSP not to lose I 1st round for 100? If Menefield wins in 1st round you would owe me 300?
                                                                    Sorry, I'm too accustomed to e-mailing simpletons. I should have said would you take take OSP not to lose in 1st rd -300 for 100 betpoints?
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                                                                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                                      • 04-14-16
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Sorry but no. I think Menifield R1 is by far his most likely path to victory.
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