UFC FIGHT NIGHT 87 - May 8

CaptChaos145 · 04-25-16, 11:10 AM

If Arlovski gets hit once it's light out and Khabilov is the better all around fighter. I'm nervous about Tumenov vs. Gunnar. I can see both guys winning so I hedged.

JIBBBY · 04-25-16, 11:20 AM

^ If Reem or Arlovski get hit clean once either go to sleep.. Reem doesn't have a granite chin either.. Bottom line is Reem is the better striker period. Reem probably hits harder too..

Arlovski has better cardio if the fight drags on..

bjpenn85 · 04-25-16, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by CaptChaos145

If Arlovski gets hit once it's light out and Khabilov is the better all around fighter. I'm nervous about Tumenov vs. Gunnar. I can see both guys winning so I hedged.

Im not betting Tumenov vs Gunnar Nelson. Nelson has nearly submitted every guy he has gotten to the ground. I dont remember if he took down Jorge Santiago, but Santiago has a very good bjjgame, and its not nearly comparable to Tumenov. Tumenov has the typical effective takedown defence in that he is both very quick and athletic so usually those are the guys that are successful following such sprawl and brawl on the other hand, one takedown is enough in this matchup, therefor you cant put -200 on that shit. Thats my opinion at least.

Last event Walt Harris was the clear weak spot. If you just watched a little bit of tape you saw the pretty obvious athletic difference between those two, i wonder what Kalikas has in store this event. I bet he makes some obvious mistakes as always. His betting podcast continue to not earn any money last 8-9 month btw.

blumpkin · 04-25-16, 01:11 PM

I like Struve over Big Foot... Silva is a shot fighter who when he gets touched will go down.

bjpenn85 · 04-25-16, 02:33 PM

But it is the battle of the bad chins. You cant seriously be betting any of those two guys.

Deceptakhan · 04-25-16, 05:05 PM

I dunno, I feel like struve should be a -300 -400 fav. Bigfoot is a shell of what he used to be

JIBBBY · 04-25-16, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

But it is the battle of the bad chins. You cant seriously be betting any of those two guys.

Just play all the KO props for each fighter at plus odds

This card is watered down with weak chins for sure...

Droz37 · 04-25-16, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by bjpenn85

But it is the battle of the bad chins. You cant seriously be betting any of those two guys.

Haha, yeah it's fairly comical thinking about it. I wish I had the time to create a fake promotional ad detailed it as such.

But regarding Bigfoot, Deceptakhan had it right, he's not the fighter he used to be.

Beelzebubzy · 04-25-16, 09:08 PM

Nunya please come back!!!!!

JIBBBY · 04-25-16, 09:31 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Nunya please come back!!!!!

So I can collect on the debt he still owes me.

getlucky2win · 04-26-16, 02:59 PM

Not enough chalk. I took AA v Reem does not go 5 rnds -350

JIBBBY · 04-26-16, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by getlucky2win

Not enough chalk. I took AA v Reem does not go 5 rnds -350

That's actually not a bad bet.. 3 rounds I would say it's iffy but 5 rounds not a chance.. This fight probably doesn't get out of 1st if I were to bet it that way which I might..

Although I said the same about Mark Hunt and Big Foot as those big fockers went to decision in their first match up and I lost my ass on a big bet. Funny how you can always remember those bad losses vs big wins.....

Even at -350 though I think that's a pretty safe bet.. Reem can't go five rounds, not a snow balls chance in hell.. -350 are stiff odds but probably still worth it....

Fact remains Reems never gone past 3 rounds in his MMA career, Arlovski only once.... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Alistair-Overeem-461

CaptChaos145 · 04-27-16, 05:32 PM

Hunt and Big Foot have & had great chins at that time. AA & Reem only need 1 good shot and it could spell the end.

CaptChaos145 · 04-27-16, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by getlucky2win

Not enough chalk. I took AA v Reem does not go 5 rnds -350

y

Where did you find those odds? That bet is -700 in 5Dimes.

JIBBBY · 04-27-16, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by CaptChaos145

This card is a couple weeks away but there are some good fights and not a lot posted about these matchups. As of today it looks like there are only lines for 4 fights.

I'm playing two 3 team parlay of:

$50.00	$229.13	Pending	3 Team Parlay
				Pending	5/8/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1002 Alistair Overeem -220* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Andrei Arlovski
				Pending	5/8/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 1201 Gunnar Nelson +160* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Albert Tumenov
				Pending	5/8/16 6:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Rustam Khabilov -210* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Chris Wade

374273647-1	4/25/16 11:48am	$50.00	$115.39	Pending	3 Team Parlay
				Pending	5/8/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1002 Alistair Overeem -220* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Andrei Arlovski
				Pending	5/8/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 1202 Albert Tumenov -185* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Gunnar Nelson
				Pending	5/8/16 6:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Rustam Khabilov -210* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Chris Wade

Capt why do you have the Nelson/Tumenov bet going each other way in both 3 teamers? You're guaranteeing yourself to lose one parlay already.. Did you get cold feet and change your mind maybe with that fight after placing one parlay?

I understand a hedge play but not the same play going each other way in 2 different parlays at the same odds.. I personally would never do that.. I guess I could see someone doing this if the odds moved greatly and ya hit it low and then high to arb out.

CaptChaos145 · 04-28-16, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Capt why do you have the Nelson/Tumenov bet going each other way in both 3 teamers? You're guaranteeing yourself to lose one parlay already.. Did you get cold feet and change your mind maybe with that fight after placing one parlay?

I understand a hedge play but not the same play going each other way in 2 different parlays at the same odds.. I personally would never do that.. I guess I could see someone doing this if the odds moved greatly and ya hit it low and then high to arb out.

My thought process is looking at the end result. Can I win money on these 2 parlays combined or not? I need Reem and Khabilov to win and it's plus odds if they do. If Gunnar wins (with those 2 winning) then I'm at almost 4-1 odds after the loss on the other Parlay. If Tumenov wins and Reem & Khabilov win I'm still ast plus odds between both parlays.

CaptChaos145 · 04-28-16, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Capt why do you have the Nelson/Tumenov bet going each other way in both 3 teamers? You're guaranteeing yourself to lose one parlay already.. Did you get cold feet and change your mind maybe with that fight after placing one parlay?

I understand a hedge play but not the same play going each other way in 2 different parlays at the same odds.. I personally would never do that.. I guess I could see someone doing this if the odds moved greatly and ya hit it low and then high to arb out.

My thought process is looking at the end result. Can I win money on these 2 parlays combined or not? I need Reem and Khabilov to win and it's plus odds if they do. If Gunnar wins (with those 2 winning) then I'm at almost 4-1 odds after the loss on the other Parlay. If Tumenov wins and Reem & Khabilov win I'm still ast plus odds between both parlays.

mirinquads · 04-28-16, 02:07 PM

Why wouldnt you just take Khabliov + Reem in that case though. What you have done here makes little sense, and there's a good chance you lose it all.

CaptChaos145 · 04-28-16, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Capt why do you have the Nelson/Tumenov bet going each other way in both 3 teamers? You're guaranteeing yourself to lose one parlay already.. Did you get cold feet and change your mind maybe with that fight after placing one parlay?

I understand a hedge play but not the same play going each other way in 2 different parlays at the same odds.. I personally would never do that.. I guess I could see someone doing this if the odds moved greatly and ya hit it low and then high to arb out.

My thought process is looking at the end result. Can I win money on these 2 parlays combined or not? I need Reem and Khabilov to win and it's plus odds if they do. If Gunnar wins (with those 2 winning) then I'm at almost 4-1 odds after the loss on the other Parlay. If Tumenov wins and Reem & Khabilov win I'm still ast plus odds between both parlays.

CaptChaos145 · 04-28-16, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by mirinquads

Why wouldnt you just take Khabliov + Reem in that case though. What you have done here makes little sense, and there's a good chance you lose it all.

Ok let's say i just took Reem and Khabilov at those odds in a parlay. $50 pays $57. A $100 pays $214

A $50 bet on Reem, Khabilov and Gunnar pays $229 minus $50 for the other parlay loss. Net yield = $179
A $50 bet on Reem, Khabilov and Tumenov pays $115 minus $50 for the other parlay loss. Net yield = $65

OK Ok OK I see my error. I'm very good with simple math but I should have plugged the numbers into the parlay calculator 1st.

CaptChaos145 · 04-28-16, 03:34 PM

I JUST started doing Parlays and I need to work out the numbers 1st but I guess you guys didn't even have to do that to see the mistake.

I mixed and matched a few 10 team parlays but they are only $10 bets that pay a lot more so I think I did those right. I'll post.

CaptChaos145 · 04-28-16, 03:38 PM

$10.00	$702.45	Pending	11 Team Parlay
				Pending	5/7/16 11:00pm Boxing Fighting 602 Saul Alvarez -485* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Amir Khan
				Pending	5/8/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1001 Andrei Arlovski +180* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Alistair Overeem
				Pending	5/8/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 1202 Albert Tumenov -185* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Gunnar Nelson
				Pending	5/8/16 6:30pm UFC Fighting 1602 Rustam Khabilov -210* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Chris Wade
				Pending	5/14/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Fabricio Werdum -160* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Stipe Miocic
				Pending	5/14/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Ronaldo Souza -320* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Vitor Belfort
				Pending	5/14/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1502 Demian Maia -265* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Matt Brown
				Pending	5/14/16 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Cris Justino -1375* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Leslie Smith
				Pending	6/4/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Luke Rockhold -190* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Chris Weidman
				Pending	7/7/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Rafael dos Anjos -350* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Eddie Alvarez
				Pending	7/8/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1002 Joanna Jedrzejczyk -200* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Claudia Gadelha

$10.00	$1,192.42	Pending	11 Team Parlay
				Pending	5/7/16 11:00pm Boxing Fighting 602 Saul Alvarez -485* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Amir Khan
				Pending	5/8/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1001 Andrei Arlovski +180* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Alistair Overeem
				Pending	5/8/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 1201 Gunnar Nelson +160* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Albert Tumenov
				Pending	5/8/16 6:30pm UFC Fighting 1602 Rustam Khabilov -210* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Chris Wade
				Pending	5/14/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Fabricio Werdum -160* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Stipe Miocic
				Pending	5/14/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Ronaldo Souza -320* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Vitor Belfort
				Pending	5/14/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1502 Demian Maia -265* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Matt Brown
				Pending	5/14/16 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Cris Justino -1375* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Leslie Smith
				Pending	6/4/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Luke Rockhold -190* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Chris Weidman
				Pending	7/7/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Rafael dos Anjos -350* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Eddie Alvarez
				Pending	7/8/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1002 Joanna Jedrzejczyk -200* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Claudia Gadelha

$10.00

$360.11

Pending

11 Team Parlay

Pending

5/7/16 11:00pm Boxing Fighting 602 Saul Alvarez -485* vs Amir Khan

Pending

5/8/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1002 Alistair Overeem -220* vs Andrei Arlovski

Pending

5/8/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 1202 Albert Tumenov -185* vs Gunnar Nelson

Pending

5/8/16 6:30pm UFC Fighting 1602 Rustam Khabilov -210* vs Chris Wade

Pending

5/14/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Fabricio Werdum -160* vs Stipe Miocic

Pending

5/14/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Ronaldo Souza -320* vs Vitor Belfort

Pending

5/14/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1502 Demian Maia -265* vs Matt Brown

Pending

5/14/16 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Cris Justino -1375* vs Leslie Smith

Pending

6/4/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Luke Rockhold -190* vs Chris Weidman

Pending

7/7/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Rafael dos Anjos -350* vs Eddie Alvarez

Pending

7/8/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1002 Joanna Jedrzejczyk -200* vs Claudia Gadelha

$10.00

CaptChaos145 · 04-28-16, 03:44 PM

$10.00	$614.63	Pending	11 Team Parlay
				Pending	5/7/16 11:00pm Boxing Fighting 602 Saul Alvarez -485* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Amir Khan
				Pending	5/8/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1002 Alistair Overeem -220* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Andrei Arlovski
				Pending	5/8/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 1201 Gunnar Nelson +160* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Albert Tumenov
				Pending	5/8/16 6:30pm UFC Fighting 1602 Rustam Khabilov -210* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Chris Wade
				Pending	5/14/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Fabricio Werdum -160* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Stipe Miocic
				Pending	5/14/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Ronaldo Souza -320* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Vitor Belfort
				Pending	5/14/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1502 Demian Maia -265* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Matt Brown
				Pending	5/14/16 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Cris Justino -1375* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Leslie Smith
				Pending	6/4/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Luke Rockhold -190* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Chris Weidman
				Pending	7/7/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Rafael dos Anjos -350* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Eddie Alvarez
				Pending	7/8/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1002 Joanna Jedrzejczyk -200* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Claudia Gadelha

$10.00	$230.24	Pending	10 Team Parlay
				Pending	5/7/16 11:00pm Boxing Fighting 602 Saul Alvarez -485* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Amir Khan
				Pending	5/8/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1002 Alistair Overeem -220* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Andrei Arlovski
				Pending	5/8/16 6:30pm UFC Fighting 1602 Rustam Khabilov -210* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Chris Wade
				Pending	5/14/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Fabricio Werdum -160* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Stipe Miocic
				Pending	5/14/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Ronaldo Souza -320* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Vitor Belfort
				Pending	5/14/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1502 Demian Maia -265* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Matt Brown
				Pending	5/14/16 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Cris Justino -1375* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Leslie Smith
				Pending	6/4/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Luke Rockhold -190* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Chris Weidman
				Pending	7/7/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Rafael dos Anjos -350* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Eddie Alvarez
				Pending	7/8/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1002 Joanna Jedrzejczyk -200* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Claudia Gadelha

JIBBBY · 04-28-16, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by CaptChaos145

I JUST started doing Parlays and I need to work out the numbers 1st but I guess you guys didn't even have to do that to see the mistake.

I mixed and matched a few 10 team parlays but they are only $10 bets that pay a lot more so I think I did those right. I'll post.

You'll figure it out in time.. GL..

I also like to hit $5 parlays with 10 and 12 teamers with every event, still waiting to hit one this year. I did hit 1 last year.. Missed one by 2 plays this year I believe as that's the closest I came to the lotto hit...

LBfightlife · 04-29-16, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

You'll figure it out in time.. GL..

I also like to hit $5 parlays with 10 and 12 teamers with every event, still waiting to hit one this year. I did hit 1 last year.. Missed one by 2 plays this year I believe as that's the closest I came to the lotto hit...

Fun,

Yea I am going to start playing with this, perhaps start out smaller at like 6-8 and work my way up.. Thing about these multi even parlays though is that they are likely to be canceled due to injury. What do you guys think about larger team parlays on the same event?

UncleChael · 04-29-16, 12:12 AM

What happens when Chris Wade wrestles down Khabilov for 3 rounds?

then youre screwed.

CaptChaos145 · 04-29-16, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by UncleChael

What happens when Chris Wade wrestles down Khabilov for 3 rounds?

then youre screwed.

I don't think he will. Wade has not fought anyone as good as Khabilov and Khabilov has done pretty well against some very stiff competition. I like the Russian!

CaptChaos145 · 04-29-16, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

You'll figure it out in time.. GL..

I also like to hit $5 parlays with 10 and 12 teamers with every event, still waiting to hit one this year. I did hit 1 last year.. Missed one by 2 plays this year I believe as that's the closest I came to the lotto hit...

I hit a 6 teamer last week. That was nice. The big ones I set up have a few locks and I mixed and matched a couple fights so imo it's really like a 5 or 6 teamer. Of course upsets happen but Saul Alvarez, Cyborg, RDA, and Jacare should win no problem.

CaptChaos145 · 04-29-16, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by LBfightlife

Fun,

Yea I am going to start playing with this, perhaps start out smaller at like 6-8 and work my way up.. Thing about these multi even parlays though is that they are likely to be canceled due to injury. What do you guys think about larger team parlays on the same event?

Same event is tough. I hot a 6 teamer on last weeks card but there was only 1 upset. The odds were almost 10 to 1 and it hit!

Beelzebubzy · 04-29-16, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Nunya please come back!!!!!

We need someone teach this board math

Thor4140 · 04-29-16, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

We need someone teach this board math

See if ya can get back MD also. Wasn't he part of the grammar patrol back then? Bleeze honestly don't ya post at the same site as he does? Why ya need to beg for him over here? Let the multi millionaire keep thinking he is running this site okay. In his life story which i quickly read because i knew it was most likely a bunch of bullshit, i see where he almost forgot about his writing job. Remember guys called him out on it and he could never prove a dam thing.

JIBBBY · 04-29-16, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by Thor4140

See if ya can get back MD also. Wasn't he part of the grammar patrol back then? Bleeze honestly don't ya post at the same site as he does? Why ya need to beg for him over here? Let the multi millionaire keep thinking he is running this site okay. In his life story which i quickly read because i knew it was most likely a bunch of bullshit, i see where he almost forgot about his writing job. Remember guys called him out on it and he could never prove a dam thing.

So I see Thor is the new Jibby troll. Bring it son..

You must try harder as your flame war attempts are weak and worthless thus far.. Although your first Jib flame post was decent.. Rattled me for second I must admit.. This one sucks though and lacks pop....

Oh and this is not my site, I just work here.

Thor, I would suggest you take a hike to the other sub forum site where all the former SBR reject sheep run too when they can't cut it over here.. I'm sure they can use another lamb just like you to join their pity party....

Thor don't make me bust you up man

..

Thor4140 · 05-02-16, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

So I see Thor is the new Jibby troll. Bring it son..

You must try harder as your flame war attempts are weak and worthless thus far.. Although your first Jib flame post was decent.. Rattled me for second I must admit.. This one sucks though and lacks pop....

Oh and this is not my site, I just work here.

Thor, I would suggest you take a hike to the other sub forum site where all the former SBR reject sheep run too when they can't cut it over here.. I'm sure they can use another lamb just like you to join their pity party....

Thor don't make me bust you up man

..

JIbby i am far from Newman