TUF Finale: Edgar vs Mendes

[Beelzebubzy]

Featherweight	Frankie Edgar	vs.	Chad Mendes
Lightweight	Edson Barboza	vs.	Tony Ferguson
Lightweight	Joe Lauzon	vs.	Evan Dunham
Welterweight	Ryan LaFlare	vs.	Mike Pierce
Featherweight	Tatsuya Kawajiri	vs.	Jason Knight

[JIBBBY]

Yep this happens all on the same weekend too.. I hate when they bunch up cards on just one weekend.. It's a pain trying to cap all those fights...

<small>The Ultimate Fighter 22 Finale - Featherweight 5 rounds - Las Vegas, Nevada</small>
Fri 12/11		1001 Frankie Edgar		<input id="editx" name="M1_12" size="4"> -165	<input id="editx" name="L1_12" size="4"> o4½ -200
11:30PM		1002 Chad Mendes		<input id="editx" name="M2_12" size="4"> +145	<input id="editx" name="L2_12" size="4"> u4½ +170
<small>The Ultimate Fighter 22 Finale - Lightweight 3 rounds - Las Vegas, Nevada</small>
Fri 12/11		1101 Edson Barboza		<input id="editx" name="M1_13" size="4"> +140	<input id="editx" name="L1_13" size="4"> o2½ -115
11:00PM		1102 Tony Ferguson		<input id="editx" name="M2_13" size="4"> -160	<input id="editx" name="L2_13" size="4"> u2½ -105

[JIBBBY]

I'm leaning Edson Barbosa at +140 as I think he's a bad match up for Tony Ferg.. He's tall, rangy and quick and has excellent striking. Tony Ferg hasn't fought anyone like Edson yet.. Edson also didn't get dropped in last fight aand looked great against Paul Felder...http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Edson-Barboza-46259 I'm thinking Edson by decision.... If it becomes a standing point contest I think Edson comes out on top..



Also gotta go with Chad Men against Frankie Edgar... Great fight though but I think the punching power of Chad will be the difference.. We've seen Frankie rocked many times in fights and that chin is questionable..

[getlucky2win]

[JIBBBY]

The under 4.5 rounds on the Chad Mendez fight is something to consider at +170..

The way Chad faded against McGreg and the suspect chin of Frankie makes me think this fight might end before the final bell.. 4 and half rounds is a long time.. Wrestling from both keeps this fight standing most likely so a KO could easily happen..

[Beelzebubzy]

Mendes took the fight on two weeks notice versus Mcgregor. He was fishing and drinking when he got the call to step in.

[JIBBBY]

Mendes took the fight on two weeks notice versus Mcgregor. He was fishing and drinking when he got the call to step in.

True Beelz, Chad gassed after just a round not too long ago on short notice, so can he get that cardio up to par to go 5 rounds in this short of time? IDK? Tall order against Frankie and his fast pace..

I think that is the one area that Frankie Edgar will have the advantage in if he pushes the pace and we get into the later rounds.. CARDIO advantage Frankie.. That really has me worried about my Mendez bet especially if it becomes a physical grinding fight... Chances are though the wrestling x's each other out and the fight stays standing..

So I'm thinking Chad for the KO because hits like truck and Frankie gets rocked in just about every fight, or Chad gasses out late and Frankie finishes him with volume and by KO himself over the course of 5 rounds..

[Thor4140]

Mendes took the fight on two weeks notice versus Mcgregor. He was fishing and drinking when he got the call to step in.

that is weird cause i saw the countdown show with Mendes and Mendes was under water for like three minutes showing how well his cardio was.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

loving Frankie here..he has way more heart than Mendes

also like Ferguson to Ko the glass chin Barboza

[TPowell]

Edgar is too technical for Chad. He'll dominate the championship rounds IMO. Guy has probably the best cardio in MMA.

After watching Tony in the Thompson fight, I thought he was a legit top 5 fighter in the division. He does everything very well, has no holes, and is still very young. Barboza is incredibly fun to watch, but I think Tony is the better all around fighter.

[TPowell]

The real question on this card is "Is Jason Knight for real?" He's fighting a top 15 guy in his UFC debut that has a ton of experience but may be fading at age 37. He's faced mostly .500 regional guys so far in his career and has 10 sub wins in 15 fights (14-1). I

[JIBBBY]

You guys could be right about Frankie, I'm really second guessing my Chad Mendes bet now.. Fock!!! Too late already locked and loaded..

In Chads defense - Mini Mendes probably has the better wrestling, better chin and more KO power, stronger fighter.. It's probably Chads fight to win early on if he's swinging away and fresh... Don't forget Mendes has looked really good in most of his fights except for the call up on short notice one with Conor.. That knee he took from Aldo also but other then that he has dominated most opponents he has faced in the past..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Chad-Mendes-38393

Chad has knocked out some tough guys like Lamas, Nik Lents, Clay Guida, and Elkins recently. Not easy to do and most of those guys can take a punch better the Frankie Edgar... Unlike like the taller, quicker and elusive McGregor and Aldo, Frankie Edgar is more hittable for a guy like Chad Mendes...

If Chad rocks Frankie standing he's the one guy that can finish him..

[PaperTrail07]

Edgar-Ferg-and Pierce at + $.....guy is a tough out...

[TPowell]

You guys could be right about Frankie, I'm really second guessing my Chad Mendes bet now.. Fock!!! Too late already locked and loaded..

In Chads defense - Mini Mendes probably has the better wrestling, better chin and more KO power, stronger fighter.. It's probably Chads fight to win early on if he's swinging away and fresh... Don't forget Mendes has looked really good in most of his fights except for the call up on short notice one with Conor.. That knee he took from Aldo also but other then that he has dominated most opponents he has faced in the past..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Chad-Mendes-38393

Chad has knocked out some tough guys like Lamas, Nik Lents, Clay Guida, and Elkins recently. Not easy to do and most of those guys can take a punch better the Frankie Edgar... Unlike like the taller, quicker and elusive McGregor and Aldo, Frankie Edgar is more hittable for a guy like Chad Mendes...

No way Edgar will be out wrestled by Chad IMO. More KO power sure and probably the better chin

[JIBBBY]

No way Edgar will be out wrestled by Chad IMO. More KO power sure and probably the better chin

Chad is a very solid MMA wrestler, Frankie as well. It's close...

[Thor4140]

Jibby I'm trying to find a place that shows all these times Franky was knocked out but can not come up with any. U have any?

[TPowell]

Jibby I'm trying to find a place that shows all these times Franky was knocked out but can not come up with any. U have any?

I'm curious too. I know Aldo rocked him pretty bad with a knee or something crazy but I've saw multiple people talk about this so I believe it has a lot of truth

[JIBBBY]

Jibby I'm trying to find a place that shows all these times Franky was knocked out but can not come up with any. U have any?

I didn't say KO'd I said rocked.. Frankie does have massive heart as he has been rocked and wobbled in several fights but always survived.. Gray Maynard rang his bell off memory.. Chad is a better version of Gray Maynard by the way..

[TPowell]

Edgar is tough as nails. I don't buy Mendes being this great power puncher. If he was, he would have knocked out an aging Aldo IMO. Not to say Aldo has a glass chin now, but you can't tell me Aldo's chin is as good as in the past

[JIBBBY]

Edgar is tough as nails. I don't buy Mendes being this great power puncher. If he was, he would have knocked out an aging Aldo IMO. Not to say Aldo has a glass chin now, but you can't tell me Aldo's chin is as good as in the past

Aldo has never been KO'd in all of his 26 pro fights..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jose-Aldo-11506 His jaw has always held up against the best in the division for some time now.. Hmmmm? Chad Mendes not knocking out the taller and faster Aldo is not a knock on his punching power.. Mendes can throw bombs...

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Edgar-Ferg-and Pierce at + $.....guy is a tough out...

feeling good about Laflare here..why pierce? he hasn't fought in around 2 years and Laflare was on a tear before losing to Maia.

[Thor4140]

I didn't say KO'd I said rocked.. Frankie does have massive heart as he has been rocked and wobbled in several fights but always survived.. Gray Maynard rang his bell off memory.. Chad is a better version of Gray Maynard by the way..

Fights with Maynard ten years ago lol. Do i need to show u the knee Aldo hit Mendes with? Or the last fight with Aldo where Chad was saved by the bell?

[JIBBBY]

Fights with Maynard ten years ago lol. Do i need to show u the knee Aldo hit Mendes with? Or the last fight with Aldo where Chad was saved by the bell?

Frankie Edgar is not Jose Aldo either...

Good luck Thorster but I think your boy is going down and there is nothing I can do to stop that now. Mini Mendes doesn't lose to other wrestlers, only to elite strikers like Aldo by the way... Frankie Edgar is wrestling based...

[slayer14]

Chad mendes is no mike tyson lol

[Thor4140]

Frankie Edgar is not Jose Aldo either...

Good luck Thorster but I think your boy is going down and there is nothing I can do to stop that now. Mini Mendes doesn't lose to other wrestlers, only to elite strikers like Aldo by the way... Frankie Edgar is wrestling based...

No interest in betting the fight Jibby.
Sometimes u just say shit to make u feel good about your bet

[JIBBBY]

No interest in betting the fight Jibby.
Sometimes u just say shit to make u feel good about your bet

In this case it's partly true, gotta back my play though, right Thor?...

I do think Chad has a great chance to win this fight early on though and that's why I bet him a week ago.. Frankie has heart, cardio for days and is always game in fights. Should be a good scrap, can't wait!!! Don't be a puss bet it

[Killer_Demo]

Nobody betting gonzaga or joe lauzon?

[JIBBBY]

Nobody betting gonzaga or joe lauzon?

No KO prop out yet for the big Russian, next best thing is this prop below for value..

Gonzaga is KO prone once he blows his wad early on, no heart.. The big Russian while unproven still hasn't been finished in the 1st round and does pack a good punch with 8 ko's in 11 pro fights.. (Against cans though)....http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Konstantin-Erokhin-98151 I'm going with the big Russia ITD.. Probably doesn't get out the 1st round though..

1505 Erokhin wins inside distance

<input id="radiox" value="M1_175" name="radiox" type="radio">+151

I can't get a solid feel yet on the Lauson/Durham scrap.. Probably goes the distance with Durham winning by decision if I had to guess right now.. Dunham will press and be the more active fighter I think, both are durable and neither have real KO power... Bad match up for Joe Lauson me tinks..

1207 Dunham wins by 3 round decision

<input id="radiox" value="M1_158" name="radiox" type="radio">+115

[Unwritten Law]

Edgar should win this likely via UD/SD. I think the lines are slightly off and should be closer to Edgar -140 / Mendes +110 range.

Nik Lentz wasn't KO'd by Mendes. He actually gave him a decent fight that went to the judges.

The Crusher isn't losing to Knight and this is a huge step up in competition and Knight's toughest opponent to date. Kawajiri is too experienced and has fought on the big stage, should take this.

[TPowell]

Edgar should win this likely via UD/SD. I think the lines are slightly off and should be closer to Edgar -140 / Mendes +110 range.

Nik Lentz wasn't KO'd by Mendes. He actually gave him a decent fight that went to the judges.

The Crusher isn't losing to Knight and this is a huge step up in competition and Knight's toughest opponent to date. Kawajiri is too experienced and has fought on the big stage, should take this.

Crusher is a gift. All Knight has is a strong sub game. He is terrible defensively in any aspect. His strike defense is awful

[Unwritten Law]

Will definitely be playing The Crusher at -200 as he hasn't shown any signs of being considered washed up yet.

Lean on Erokhin +125. First fight under the UFC banner resulted in a UD loss, although he does have 8 career MMA victories by KO's to his credit and Napao has been on the receiving end of 2 consecutive KO losses. His chin is nearly completely shot at this point, and he failed to take out a fellow washed up Cro Cop. Napao has been KO'd 8 times in his MMA career, 7 of 8 in the UFC. Would consider playing the under here as well.

[JIBBBY]

Event write ups and predictions that are out so far...

Combat Press - http://combatpress.com/2015/12/toe-t...d-predictions/

Todays Knockout - http://www.todaysknockout.com/mma/uf...e-predictions/

[TPowell]

I really like the Gonzaga fight ending in round 1 as a prop. You can easily get plus money and these 2 are awful but should finish early

[JIBBBY]

I really like the Gonzaga fight ending in round 1 as a prop. You can easily get plus money and these 2 are awful but should finish early

I agree TPow!!!

These are the only props out so far on this fight. More should pop up come fight time I hope..

<small>Konstantin Erokhin vs Gabriel Gonzaga - Heavyweight 3 rounds - The Ultimate Fighter 22 Final propositions</small>
Fri 12/11		1503 Erokhin / Gonzaga goes 3 round distance		<input id="editx" name="M1_174" size="4"> +500
10:30PM		1504 Fight won’t go 3 round distance		<input id="editx" name="M2_174" size="4"> -900
Fri 12/11		1505 Erokhin wins inside distance		<input id="editx" name="M1_175" size="4"> +151
10:30PM		1506 Not Erokhin inside distance		<input id="editx" name="M2_175" size="4"> -191
Fri 12/11		1507 Erokhin wins by 3 round decision		<input id="editx" name="M1_176" size="4"> +1100
10:30PM		1508 Not Erokhin by 3 round decision		<input id="editx" name="M2_176" size="4"> -2300
Fri 12/11		1509 Gonzaga wins inside distance		<input id="editx" name="M1_177" size="4"> -122
10:30PM		1510 Not Gonzaga inside distance		<input id="editx" name="M2_177" size="4"> -118
Fri 12/11		1511 Gonzaga wins by 3 round decision		<input id="editx" name="M1_178" size="4"> +900
10:30PM		1512 Not Gonzaga by 3 round decision		<input id="editx" name="M2_178" size="4"> -1850
Fri 12/11		1513 Erokhin / Gonzaga draw		<input id="editx" name="M1_179" size="4"> +30000
10:30PM		1514 Fight not a draw		<input id="editx" name="M2_179" size="4"> -90000

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

FOX Sports 1, 10 p.m. ET
Frankie Edgar vs. Chad Mendes
Ryan Hall vs. Artem Lobov (TUF 22 lightweight tournament final)
Edson Barboza vs. Tony Ferguson
Evan Dunham vs. Joe Lauzon
Ryan LaFlare vs. Mike Pierce
Tatsuya Kawajiri vs. Jason Knight

FOX Sports 1, 8 p.m. ET
Konstantin Erokhin vs. Gabriel Gonzaga
Geane Herrera vs. Joby Sanchez
Julian Erosa vs. Marcin Wrzosek
Chris Gruetzemacher vs. Abner Lloveras