Who knows what price he got. Not guida decision was -160 yesterday.
UFC on FOX 12: Lawler vs. Brown (July 26, 2014)
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PunisherINDSBR MVP
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#211Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#212My take, prelims and bet options -
-240 Jorge Masvidal (26-8) vs +200 Daren Cruickshank (15-4) - Thinking dog play small in this one perhaps fellas? There is value I think in this straight bet.
Masvidal probably out points Daren in this one and could win by decision but I'm thinking Daren is a really tough dude and has a knack for landing those nasty head kicks.. Probably a close to even match up as far as I can tell... So it might be worth a shot to play Cruickshank at +200 in this one.. This is a gamble though, Masvidal is more well rounded and has the experience edge over Daren... Better on the ground if he can get it there..
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Daron-Cruickshank-53717 - He's got the wrestling to keep this fight standing and has only been stopped one time in his MMA career with strikes and that was years ago.. 60 percent KO ratio and has 9 finishes by KO in 15 wins..
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jorge-Masvidal-7688 9 of his last fights have gone the distance so Masvidal is pretty damnn durable and hard to finish though..
Tempted by the odds but slightly leaning towards Masvidal in a decision victory.. Tough call as I also think Masvidal can possibly catch those spinning kicks and take down Daron!!!!!!
Cruickshank wins inside the distance +550.. Got head kick maybe? Highlight vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc1pkypG-UEComment -
MarkWoodstickSBR High Roller
- 06-18-14
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#213Considering that he's still questioning whether it has value today, I assumed he was looking at the current line...I think Guida has a very real chance for a decision victory. I think Cummins not ITD at -230 is a better bet if we're talking juicy prop betsComment -
PunisherINDSBR MVP
- 02-24-11
- 4983
#215he was questioning why getlucky played Not guida by decisionComment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#217+125 Kyle Kingsbury (11-5) vs -145 Patrick Cummings (5-1)
Liking the dog in this one - I think Patrick is over hyped from the DC fight and still a bit raw, unproven, doesn't seem to have locked down his wrestling advantage and shots in fights yet, looks unsure of himself at times. He's got the potential though as he is certainly a solid wrestler, his cardio is good too.. He should be improving with each fight also training full time now.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Patrick-Cummins-72981
Kyle is a tough bruiser though and has been in the cage with better fighters then Patrick Cumming.. Has decent take down defense... Glover Tex took him down and sub'd him and he also is on a 3 fight losing streak but faced tough opponents though.. All tougher then Patrick Cummings I think.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Kyle-Kingsbury-16558 Kyle has been out of the cage for a while and could have some ring rust... Need to see him at weigh ins before I make a play on this one...
I'm liking Kyle Kingsbury by KO early if he can defend the take downs and land his strikes early and often which I think he might be able to do in this fight if he's in good shape.. I think he drops Patrick Cummings standing just like DC did... Kyle is the more experienced and better striker going in.. Kyle really needs this win being that he lost 3 in row now..Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
- 83686
#219
Gotta be nuts in the head just a bit to be a cage fighter in the first place.. From Cali this comes as no surprise to me.. I'm just a little confused why he didn't pick a yoga retreat, blaze up and become one with the universe instead...
I just hope he brings his fight game face in the Octagon come Saturday night!!!... If focused and trained up he should win...
This fight most likely is NOT going the distance by the way... Kingsbury wins inside the distance +330 instead of the straight play might be the call....... If Kingsbury wins this fight it's gonna be by KO or ref stoppage and not by decision I believe..Comment -
latarianmiltonSBR Sharp
- 12-23-13
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#220does cummings still work at starbucks?Comment -
DomesticSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-10-09
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#221I was very surprised to see Cummins open the favourite here, I guess when you are up against a guy on a 3 loss streak it makes sense though.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#223-240 Tim Means (26-6-1) vs +200 Hernani Perpetuo (17-4)
Liking yet another dog in these prelims and not even because of the odds this time around.. Even though Hernani lost to Meins in his last fight he can still win in more ways then Tim Means.. Hernani knows how to win fights and does just that thru out his entire career.. I see him rebounding strong after the loss in this fight.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Hernani-Perpetuo-28185
Can't say the same for Tim Means...
I liked this write up below and I really don't have much more to ad to it in short.. (copy and paste)
Two short years ago, Means was considered one to reckon with in the welterweight division. But two losses (and that infamous sauna slip) sent him out of the UFC. Two first-round knockouts in the minor leagues later and he was back in the UFC. Then he lost to Neil Magny.
Perpetuo trains with Nova Uniao and dropped a close one to Jordan Mein in his UFC debut in April. But he still has serious potential as a fighter. He has more of a brawler's instinct than some of his more polished teammates, but he's still a dangerous striker and a submission artist. It's a well-rounded game that landed him the Shooto welterweight title. At UFC on FOX it will land him his first UFC victory.
Prediction: Perpetuo, unanimous decision
Jibbby - Thinking Perpetua by submission perhaps late in the fight myself. To keep this fight simple though it appears to me that if Tim Means doesn't knock his opponents out he doesn't win in recent fights... Lost 3 of 5 fights.. Flip side Perpetuo has never been KO'd in his MMA career, I see no reason why that should change..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Hernani-Perpetuo-28185
(1 unit on Perpetua +200 placed)Comment -
Dwil125SBR MVP
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#224How are you betting on mma if you don't know these types of things?Comment -
TheCalculatorSBR MVP
- 10-10-11
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#225Nothing focuses a fighter like pounding jungle drugs.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
- 83686
#226I never played prop bets before Dwil, just joined 5D when MD told me of it a few months ago.. I never paid attention to sub wins by strikes I guess.. I'm glad I know this now
I pick fights Dwil that's what I do best. My MMA gambling is still a work in progress but I got a solid grip on it now.... I'll catch up to you guys just bare with me ok..Comment -
SkelSBR MVP
- 03-04-14
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#227
“This whole time I’ve been sparring and training, anytime I went with anyone other than Cormier and Cain (Velasquez), I whipped their ass; I did great, like I’m supposed to because I’m in the UFC. Anytime I went against Cormier or Cain, I got my ass kicked like I’m supposed to because these guys are the heavyweight champ and the number one contender. And the truth is, every time I’ve had my ass kicked by Cormier, he’s exposed some of my weaknesses in my wrestling, he’s exposed things that I need to get better at, and then we worked on that and I’ve improved. Those beatings that I’ve received this camp have been a tremendous help to me.”Comment -
mirinquadsSBR MVP
- 04-22-13
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#229I never played prop bets before Dwil, just joined 5D when MD told me of it a few months ago.. I never paid attention to sub wins by strikes I guess.. I'm glad I know this now
I pick fights Dwil that's what I do best. My MMA gambling is still a work in progress but I got a solid grip on it now.... I'll catch up to you guys just bare with me ok..Comment -
marzwoodySBR MVP
- 01-03-14
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#230^ lolComment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#231^^^^Dude's, I thought when you tap from ground strikes it was called a TKO, not a submission win.. What is the big frigg'n deal? It's a technicality who cares? Well I guess in prop betting it matters and now I know...
Maybe some of you guys would win more bets if you concentrated on the fights and betting lines themselves rather then just ripping on members posting and asking rare questions that are pretty much meaningless in nature....
Besides how often do you see fighters tap from strikes at the top levels.. Not often if ever...... You guys are reaching and can kiss my......lol....
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MDSBR Hall of Famer
- 01-31-12
- 9728
#232^^^^Dude's, I thought when you tap from ground strikes it was called a TKO, not a submission win.. What is the big frigg'n deal? It's a technicality who cares? Well I guess in prop betting it matters and now I know...
Maybe some of you guys would win more bets if you concentrated on the fights and betting lines themselves rather then just ripping on members posting and asking rare questions that are pretty much meaningless in nature....
Besides how often do you see fighters tap from strikes at the top levels.. Not often if ever...... You guys are reaching and can kiss my......lol....
People aren't ripping on you simply because of your "question". Can you understand how it could become frustrating that the least-informed member of the forum is also the loudest? Your posts read like a how-to on trolling people who know what they're talking about by having the most level-1 thinking imaginable.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#233Tapping to strikes counting as a submission victory is "pretty much meaningless" in regards to the Not Rumble by Sub -7000 line? C'maaaaaaaahn dude.
People aren't ripping on you simply because of your "question". Can you understand how it could become frustrating that the least-informed member of the forum is also the loudest? Your posts read like a how-to on trolling people who know what they're talking about by having the most level-1 thinking imaginable.
Loudest - because I'm sharing info on fights and posting up comprehensive breakdowns that I normally should be getting paid for.... I'd rather you just say thank you... I don't like attention MD.. Just want to win bets and laugh while doing it..... That's exactly what I do with my Level 1 thinking... Check ALL the event threads for the last 3 months in case you forgot...Comment -
MDSBR Hall of Famer
- 01-31-12
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#234Who's gonna play that prop MD at -7000? You and your tiny arse bank roll?. LOL... Like I said it's just a technicality that applies only to prop bets which I am fairly new at playing... I asked the question and got the answer.. Thanks.. Let's move on...
Loudest - because I'm sharing info on fights and posting up comprehensive breakdowns that I normally should be getting paid for.... I'd rather you just say thank you... I don't like attention MD.. Just want to win bets and laugh while doing it..... That's exactly what I do with my Level 1 thinking... Check the event threads for the last 3 months in case you forgot...Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#235MD, I like ya and you're probably a good guy just like you always say to others just before ripping on them.
Hear me out on this - let this Level-1 thinker give ya a few words of advice to help with your gambling and overall happiness in life.
You can't win gambling or in life consistently being a negative person, someone that just finds fault in others and then projects that negativity onto others to gain notoriety.. Even if you do cap, or trail and win off others you won't enjoy the money MD, you'll probably just lose it soon after, bad business deals, bad bets, etc.. then just get in debt and end up in GA one day..... NOT FUN....
For me - I'm more lucky then good half the time, I'll admit to that and this happens for a reason.. I share, give to charities, good to other people, and try to stay positive and unselfish in my thoughts and actions.. I don't rip on others or look to tear them down.. Rather try to be a teacher and share.. This brings good Karma in life, in business, in relationships and in GAMBLING!!!!.. Lady luck likes these types of people and I sleep with her alot..
Try it and see what happens... Flip that switch..Comment -
goodfellas433SBR Sharp
- 07-16-12
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#236Jibbby, I don't know why but you are really starting to grow on me. If this was still like pre-school and we are getting credit for sheer effort, for how hard you try...you would be kicking everyone's ass in this thread.
Unfortunately, we are mostly just degenerate gamblers in here so you will continue to get shit lolComment -
MDSBR Hall of Famer
- 01-31-12
- 9728
#237MD, I like ya and you're probably a good guy just like you always say to others just before ripping on them.
Hear me out on this - let this Level-1 thinker give ya a few words of advice to help with your gambling and overall happiness in life.
You can't win gambling or in life consistently being a negative person, someone that just finds fault in others and then projects that negativity onto others to gain notoriety.. Even if you do cap, or trail and win off others you won't enjoy the money MD, you'll probably just lose it soon after, bad business deals, bad bets, etc.. then just get in debt and end up in GA one day..... NOT FUN....
For me - I'm more lucky then good half the time, I'll admit to that and this happens for a reason.. I share, give to charities, good to other people, and try to stay positive and unselfish in my thoughts and actions.. I don't rip on others or look to tear them down.. Rather try to be a teacher and share.. This brings good Karma in life, in business, in relationships and in GAMBLING!!!!.. Lady luck likes these types of people and I sleep with her alot..
Try it and see what happens... Flip that switch..
You're a likeable guy, but you act as if you're "here to learn", then just spend your time posting Bleacher Report writeups and telling people why their logic is wrong. Hard-working guys who are here to learn but know next to nothing are guys that I like, so I assumed that I'd like your posts, but you make the same mistakes over and over and seem somewhat unwilling to grasp the actual concepts that are raised to you. I suppose the fundamental issue I have with you is that you can take on board facts, such as numbers, pretty easily, but logical concepts seem to escape you, and I never feel as if you've properly understood my points when I reply to you.
What's the point in trying to teach Leonard Garcia how to throw an oblique kick? He's just going to go windmilling either way.
P.S. No such thing as "luck", pal, but I like that you stay positive.Comment -
MDSBR Hall of Famer
- 01-31-12
- 9728
#238Jibbby, I don't know why but you are really starting to grow on me. If this was still like pre-school and we are getting credit for sheer effort, for how hard you try...you would be kicking everyone's ass in this thread.
Unfortunately, we are mostly just degenerate gamblers in here so you will continue to get shit lolComment -
PmoneySBR Hustler
- 06-19-14
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#239Comment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
- 08-29-08
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#240Jibby is good people
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VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
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#242MD, I like ya and you're probably a good guy just like you always say to others just before ripping on them.
Hear me out on this - let this Level-1 thinker give ya a few words of advice to help with your gambling and overall happiness in life.
You can't win gambling or in life consistently being a negative person, someone that just finds fault in others and then projects that negativity onto others to gain notoriety.. Even if you do cap, or trail and win off others you won't enjoy the money MD, you'll probably just lose it soon after, bad business deals, bad bets, etc.. then just get in debt and end up in GA one day..... NOT FUN....
For me - I'm more lucky then good half the time, I'll admit to that and this happens for a reason.. I share, give to charities, good to other people, and try to stay positive and unselfish in my thoughts and actions.. I don't rip on others or look to tear them down.. Rather try to be a teacher and share.. This brings good Karma in life, in business, in relationships and in GAMBLING!!!!.. Lady luck likes these types of people and I sleep with her alot..
Try it and see what happens... Flip that switch..Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
- 83686
#243Respectively disagree MD...
Luck has many different names - blessed, fortunate, on fire, killing it, can't lose, etc. Just saying what goes around usually comes around in life.. Be cool and not a fool. Toast don't Roast..
If most are degenerate gamblers posting in this forum then you're all my kinda people..Comment
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