UFC Fight Night: Nogueira vs Nelson (April 11, 2014)

[MD]

I had a pretty big night tonight, only pound play that lost was Nogueira +150. Oh well, Nelson R1 +350 cashes, but the limits were so low that it doesn't return very much of my stake. Happy to get a big winning night, though - pretty sure I finished down on four MMA (two UFC, two Bellator) events in a row before this. I can't keep being an asshole if I'm a fish myself.

[Dwil125]

Beneil Dariush @ -160 4.8 units to win 3 units
Guida by decision @ +155 3 units to win 4.65 units
Laflare by decision @ -125 4 units to win 3.2 units
Nogueira by decision @ +465 1 unit to win 4.65 units
Guida/Kawajiri O2.5 + Nelson/Nogueira O1.5 3 units to win 4.04 units
Howard/Laflare O2.5 + Omielanczuk/Rosholt O1.5 2 units to win 2.07 units
Guida/Kawajiri O2.5 + Bisping/Kennedy O4.5 3 units to win 3.95 units
Howard @ +365 0.5 units to win 1.8 units

+0.62 units for the card.

Nice, Bellator tonight too. I didn't see Dariush getting caught like that.

[Dwil125]

Didnt see Kawajiri/Guida winning the fotn. I think even Alers/Omer deserved it more then them.

[latarianmilton]

Didnt see Kawajiri/Guida winning the fotn. I think even Alers/Omer deserved it more then them.

even nelson vs nog was more entertaining

[JIBBBY]

Id hate to see Nog get hurt long term by getting in over his head in the future...

I agree.. I think he should hang em up.. His chin is really glass these days.. He gets rocked or knocked out in every fight these days..

[JIBBBY]

I had a pretty big night tonight, only pound play that lost was Nogueira +150. Oh well, Nelson R1 +350 cashes, but the limits were so low that it doesn't return very much of my stake. Happy to get a big winning night, though - pretty sure I finished down on four MMA (two UFC, two Bellator) events in a row before this. I can't keep being an asshole if I'm a fish myself.

Congrats MD, I got murdered in the Prelim fights, but came back strong on the main card fights.. Cleaned up finally to finish ahead on the day with the Nelson round 1 finish so I must say it's a good day after all..

[JIBBBY]

Didnt see Kawajiri/Guida winning the fotn. I think even Alers/Omer deserved it more then them.

You just knew Clay was gonna out work Kawajiri in this fight. I thought Guida won every round.. He was the aggressor and taking the fight to Kawajiri.. Kawajiri was breathing very hard at the end of the fight and he's lucky he didn't get KO'd in round 1.. Guida landed a good shot early on...

[mirinquads]

penetrate that was embarrasing from Big Nog, that pathetic half jab when Nelson is in range for the overhand. Nog might as well have been walking on crutches, he looked like a 60 year old out there. Even so he fought an awful fight, should have pushed Nelson up against the cage from the get go. I dont know while people always go all dear in the headlight against Nelson, it was the same with Congo, really sad to watch.

[mirinquads]

At least the overs for Howard and Guida fights saved my ass.

[mirinquads]

Why would you box with him like that tho Nog, the only place he could hurt you, boggles the mind. He was gassed as penetrate after that last flurry too. Could barely lift his arms when he was sitting on the cage.

[Thor4140]

If i have to watch Roy Nelson fight again give him Hunt and see if he stands with HUnt. Hunt won't get hit with that looping loooooooooooooooooooooong medium speed over hand right.

[JIBBBY]

If i have to watch Roy Nelson fight again give him Hunt and see if he stands with HUnt. Hunt won't get hit with that looping loooooooooooooooooooooong medium speed over hand right.

That would be a good fight with Mark Hunt, very similar fighters actually with good chins....

If Roy could ever stop eating and lose the weight and drop a division I'd love to see him fight Dan Henderson too.. Bombs away with the right hands and may the best chin win...

[Wilbo86]

Weird night for me overall, had plays on Bedford, kawajiri, duranish/Nijem Under 1.5 and ITD, and Nelson/nog Under 1.5.

So far my book cashed the Bedford bet (?), refunded the main event play (it was a fairly obvious line error, but i hit it late and hard, as they say in rugby) and hasn't paid the Nijem under 1.5 bet yet, potentially with recourse to refund. Nothing sinister, just seems to be incompetence at this point. I'll be putting a complaint in if they refund the Nijem bet though.

Havent look at the fine print, what's the general course for a NC?

[Imsmarterthanu]

Big Nog was already out on his feet before the big KO

he doesn't have the reflexes to keep fighting now days

[NunyaBidness]

Weird night for me overall, had plays on Bedford, kawajiri, duranish/Nijem Under 1.5 and ITD, and Nelson/nog Under 1.5.

So far my book cashed the Bedford bet (?), refunded the main event play (it was a fairly obvious line error, but i hit it late and hard, as they say in rugby) and hasn't paid the Nijem under 1.5 bet yet, potentially with recourse to refund. Nothing sinister, just seems to be incompetence at this point. I'll be putting a complaint in if they refund the Nijem bet though.

Havent look at the fine print, what's the general course for a NC?

What book?

No contests are graded as if the fight didn't occur, everything is cancelled.

[Wilbo86]

Sportsbet... Its Australian. :/ I'm looking to change, 5dimes suitable for internationals? How much of an effort is it to withdraw?

In the guillard-Pearson NC they just refunded it, either someone's asleep at the wheel or it'll get reversed later... Probably both.

[PaperTrail07]

yup....Guy's brain just keep telling him to fight....he knows nothing else....

I agree.. I think he should hang em up.. His chin is really glass these days.. He gets rocked or knocked out in every fight these days..

[PaperTrail07]

Nelson would take out Hunt as well....

[Thor4140]

Nelson would take out Hunt as well....

He wont standing which is why he would eventually take him down.

[mirinquads]

Can't recall the last time Nelson went for a takedown. Hunt would counter strike him all night.

[NunyaBidness]

He was looking for TDs in the Miocic fight, gotta think he'll try it there once he realizes he's in trouble standing.

[MD]

He wont standing which is why he would eventually take him down.

I'd be very surprised if Nelson was able to take Hunt down. The opposite may be more likely.

[Thor4140]

I'd be very surprised if Nelson was able to take Hunt down. The opposite may be more likely.

many people take Hunt down. After one maybe two he is basically gassed. Nelson has great takedowns but he is like Hendo. Wrestlers who found out they can punch so they love punching

[JIBBBY]

Nelson has great takedowns

Sure about that comment Thor?

Nelson has poor TD's, he's too slow, short and fat to shoot for a double and get it, he'll gas out trying for a single if committed to it, his trip TD's are decent when he gets the position or leverage..

Nelson doesn't try for takedowns anymore because it gasses him out trying.. Easier to just stand and bang.. Roy Nelson is not a wrestler, he's a jits guy..

[Thor4140]

Sure about that comment Thor?

Nelson has poor TD's, he's too slow, short and fat to shoot for a double and get it, he'll gas out trying for a single if committed to it, his trip TD's are decent when he gets the position or leverage..

Nelson doesn't try for takedowns anymore because it gasses him out trying.. Easier to just stand and bang.. Roy Nelson is not a wrestler, he's a jits guy..

He has above average takedowns. Why i said great i have no idea.

[Tommy Blingshyne]

i can see nelson landing a TD once both guys are gassed and just using his fat body weight to collapse on top of hunt...something along those lines

[latarianmilton]

yea hunt is a bad matchup for nelson

[Skel]

[JIBBBY]

yea hunt is a bad matchup for nelson

Not so sure about that Milton -

Gotta consider - Roy will have the better ground game and could possibly threaten with a submission if the fight ever gets there first off!!!!.. Secondly, Hunt got Ko'd recently and that jaw of his could be giving way with age now.. (Just ask Chuck Liddell about that) Roy Nelson still is showing the granite chin and may have enough power to actually knock Mark Hunt out again when both get gassed..

Mark Hunt also may not have the striking power to knock out Roy Nelson on the flip side.. So at some point Roy may start getting the better of Mark Hunt standing as the fight goes on.. Gas tanks for both fighters are suspect so no advantage there....

My money will be on the younger man in Fat Boy Roy if that fight ever goes down....

[Vaughany]

I'd be very surprised if Nelson was able to take Hunt down. The opposite may be more likely.

Mccorkle?!

[PaperTrail07]

I think nelson would win the standup

He was looking for TDs in the Miocic fight, gotta think he'll try it there once he realizes he's in trouble standing.

[Thor4140]

I think nelson would win the standup

Hunt isn't some slow clown like all these guys Roy knocks out. When a guy has just a lick of skills with the hands Roy gets in trouble. Hunt would be the best pair of hands he has seen since Dos Santos.

[marzwoody]

Not so sure about that Milton -

Gotta consider - Roy will have the better ground game and could possibly threaten with a submission if the fight ever gets there first off!!!!.. Secondly, Hunt got Ko'd recently and that jaw of his could be giving way with age now.. (Just ask Chuck Liddell about that) Roy Nelson still is showing the granite chin and may have enough power to actually knock Mark Hunt out again when both get gassed..

Mark Hunt also may not have the striking power to knock out Roy Nelson on the flip side.. So at some point Roy may start getting the better of Mark Hunt standing as the fight goes on.. Gas tanks for both fighters are suspect so no advantage there....

My money will be on the younger man in Fat Boy Roy if that fight ever goes down....

Hunt is a samoan, with a head like a fire hydrant... there is no such thing as a bad chin for mark hunt. sorry but that is asinine.

[Beelzebubzy]

Hunt is a samoan, with a head like a fire hydrant... there is no such thing as a bad chin for mark hunt. sorry but that is asinine.

Does being Samoan affect his Chin?

[latarianmilton]

Not so sure about that Milton -

Gotta consider - Roy will have the better ground game and could possibly threaten with a submission if the fight ever gets there first off!!!!.. Secondly, Hunt got Ko'd recently and that jaw of his could be giving way with age now.. (Just ask Chuck Liddell about that) Roy Nelson still is showing the granite chin and may have enough power to actually knock Mark Hunt out again when both get gassed..

Mark Hunt also may not have the striking power to knock out Roy Nelson on the flip side.. So at some point Roy may start getting the better of Mark Hunt standing as the fight goes on.. Gas tanks for both fighters are suspect so no advantage there....

My money will be on the younger man in Fat Boy Roy if that fight ever goes down....

Hunt is just too good to get caught with that telegraphed overhand right even when gassed, roy has never caught someone as good as hunt with his overhand, plus his chin was just fine vs silva who is not pillowfisted.
Point is hunt is a very experienced striker with a good chin to boot, hes also a counterpuncher to make things worse for nelson.
It would be a dream come true if schaub got injured and nelson replaced him, i could make a lot of money on hunt specially because the public will be overrating nelson now.