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  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #36
    Originally posted by gabe
    Sup MD? Instead of being a decent person and contacting me privately to let me know that I made an error in my tally, you made a fifteen paragraph thread trashing me, proving you are nothing short of a hater out to do me harm. Congratulations, you did. I nearly lost my job over a tiny mistake you made a gigantic deal about, when all could have been avoided if you had just informed me that I made a mistake, rather than trying to hang me for it.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, you truly are an awful person.

    Take care.
    lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oo

    "tiny mistake"
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    • Vaughany
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 03-07-10
      • 45563

      #37
      Originally posted by bjpenn85
      wow, that was pathetic gabe. haha
      hahaah
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      • Vaughany
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 03-07-10
        • 45563

        #38
        Originally posted by MD
        I am going to say this for the last time, and it's not for you, it's for everyone who's reading this and may actually take you seriously or think that you're not a liar: the first time you lied about your record (when you went 13-8, and claimed to have went 18-1), I tweeted you, in a friendly manor, and said, basically "hey man, you messed up your record, you went 13-8, not 18-1". I knew that you were being disingenuous, but I have no issue with you, so I thought I'd just point it out. Your reaction was to tweet me dozens of times with abusive messages, and direct message me calling me a backstabber, a scumbag, a pussy, and just about every other name you could think of. You are well aware of this.

        You are a liar, Gabe, and I gave you the decency of pointing out in a friendly way that you "miscalculated" your 13-8 record as 18-1 somehow, and you completely abused me for it through multiple tweets and DM's, instead of respecting what I had done.

        Maybe you should have realized by now that if you post your record publicly, people will notice when you lie about your results after the fact.
        lol but accidentally thinking it was 18-1 instead of 13-8 is only a "tiny mistake"! God you are all so dumb, real dumb!
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        • PunisherIND
          SBR MVP
          • 02-24-11
          • 4979

          #39
          Originally posted by NunyaBidness
          Sounds like he'd fit right in over there at the corner of scumbag st and bowlcut lane.
          Lol bowlcut lane hahaha
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          • Vaughany
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 03-07-10
            • 45563

            #40
            I loled at that too!!!!
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            • Beelzebubzy
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-06-11
              • 6995

              #41
              They are seriously paying gabe?

              Wtf I want that job

              kalikas look up my 5dkmes numbers. I'm down 9% thanks to curran and the saints hire me

              filkins on Romero
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              • Vaughany
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 03-07-10
                • 45563

                #42
                Kol
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #43
                  And lol
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                  • gabe
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-12-11
                    • 7405

                    #44
                    Originally posted by MD
                    Can we count Gabe as a media judge? He thought Hallmann deserved the win over Iaquinta, and that Craig was the right side against Barnatt, as he was "dominating" until Barnatt rocked him. Even said that he'd bet Craig again at the same price if they fought again.

                    Also, he did bet on Stepanyan, V!
                    I did not notice this post before, as I did not read the beginning of this thread... Jesus Christ, this guy is obsessed with me. Brings me up and starts talking about me when no one has even mentioned me. SO F'N WEIRD.
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                    • gabe
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-12-11
                      • 7405

                      #45
                      Originally posted by MD
                      I am going to say this for the last time, and it's not for you, it's for everyone who's reading this and may actually take you seriously or think that you're not a liar: the first time you lied about your record (when you went 13-8, and claimed to have went 18-1), I tweeted you, in a friendly manor, and said, basically "hey man, you messed up your record, you went 13-8, not 18-1". I knew that you were being disingenuous, but I have no issue with you, so I thought I'd just point it out. Your reaction was to tweet me dozens of times with abusive messages, and direct message me calling me a backstabber, a scumbag, a pussy, and just about every other name you could think of. You are well aware of this.

                      You are a liar, Gabe, and I gave you the decency of pointing out in a friendly way that you "miscalculated" your 13-8 record as 18-1 somehow, and you completely abused me for it through multiple tweets and DM's, instead of respecting what I had done.

                      Maybe you should have realized by now that if you post your record publicly, people will notice when you lie about your results after the fact.
                      You never tweeted me, you made a public tweet everybody could see, and your numbers were still off. You were including bets I tweeted out after fights had already started, which made ZERO sense, because they were not bets I was recommending, they were bets I was telling people i'm on after fight had started, simple as that. But of course, that does not matter, since you don't care about the facts, you just care about making me look bad because you've been jealous ever since i got that job, and it's been incredibly obvious. Sider pointed it out at the very beginning but I did not pay attention to it...

                      and this last time, i was off by a single number because i missed the under in the boetsch fight... big deal. it would not matter if i had 6 more losses to my record that night, it would have still been an incredibly profitable night. it makes you look like a real moron to think i would LIE about a record where it would not make a difference in the slightest, considering how extremely profitable both evenings were which you're claiming i lied about my record, when in reality you know i was likely stoned and did a quick tally and posted the number without double or triple checking. I could give two shits less about the number of plays that won and loss, I'm not even supposed to mention how I did, but I do it for the heck of it. What matters is how INCREDIBLY PROFITABLE those nights were. You're not that dumb of a guy, so I know you're not thinking "This guy just made a fortune off his plays tonight, but he says he has one loss less than I count, SO SOMETHING IS UP!!" You're smart enough to know that even if i had 10 more losses, they still would have been good nights, considering all the huge plays I hit on both nights.

                      You read every little thing I post and look for every opportunity to put me down. Finding errors in my tally on incredibly profitable nights I have and trying to use that to hang me, just way too low of you, dude. There is no one lower.
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                      • MD
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-31-12
                        • 9728

                        #46
                        Originally posted by gabe
                        You never tweeted me, you made a public tweet everybody could see, and your numbers were still off. You were including bets I tweeted out after fights had already started, which made ZERO sense, because they were not bets I was recommending, they were bets I was telling people i'm on after fight had started, simple as that. But of course, that does not matter, since you don't care about the facts, you just care about making me look bad because you've been jealous ever since i got that job, and it's been incredibly obvious. Sider pointed it out at the very beginning but I did not pay attention to it...

                        and this last time, i was off by a single number because i missed the under in the boetsch fight... big deal. it would not matter if i had 6 more losses to my record that night, it would have still been an incredibly profitable night. it makes you look like a real moron to think i would LIE about a record where it would not make a difference in the slightest, considering how extremely profitable both evenings were which you're claiming i lied about my record, when in reality you know i was likely stoned and did a quick tally and posted the number without double or triple checking. I could give two shits less about the number of plays that won and loss, I'm not even supposed to mention how I did, but I do it for the heck of it. What matters is how INCREDIBLY PROFITABLE those nights were. You're not that dumb of a guy, so I know you're not thinking "This guy just made a fortune off his plays tonight, but he says he has one loss less than I count, SO SOMETHING IS UP!!" You're smart enough to know that even if i had 10 more losses, they still would have been good nights, considering all the huge plays I hit on both nights.

                        You read every little thing I post and look for every opportunity to put me down. Finding errors in my tally on incredibly profitable nights I have and trying to use that to hang me, just way too low of you, dude. There is no one lower.
                        Yes, I made a public tweet that everyone could see, @ you. IE: I tweeted you. And no, I was only including wagers that you included in your "recommended plays" section of your articles, I wasn't counting Twitter bets, at all.

                        You're not supposed to mention how you did, but you do it anyway so that you can lie? The "you should have assumed I was stoned when I said I was 18-1 when I was actually 13-8" excuse is pretty silly, but I did tweet you about it in a friendly way, and your reaction made it look very intentional.

                        "This last time" that you lied, you were off by two losses, not one.

                        Dude, no one knows if you have "incredibly profitable nights" or not, because you alternate between "large" bets, "xunit" bets, and plays with no form of sizing whatsoever.
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                        • gabe
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-12-11
                          • 7405

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                          lol but accidentally thinking it was 18-1 instead of 13-8 is only a "tiny mistake"! God you are all so dumb, real dumb!
                          That never happened. Go count my plays for the event he is talking about and you will see that is a completely fabricated lie. It was the Brazil card where Piotr Hallmann beat Trinaldo. Go check my articles and add the record for yourself and see how I did.

                          But I was referring to the last event he accused me of lying in, WHERE I WAS OFF BY ONE NUMBER in the loss column. It would not matter if I was off by 5 or 6 numbers, as it still would have been an incredibly profitable evening.
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                          • MD
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-31-12
                            • 9728

                            #48
                            Originally posted by gabe
                            That never happened. Go count my plays for the event he is talking about and you will see that is a completely fabricated lie. It was the Brazil card where Piotr Hallmann beat Trinaldo. Go check my articles and add the record for yourself and see how I did.

                            But I was referring to the last event he accused me of lying in, WHERE I WAS OFF BY ONE NUMBER in the loss column. It would not matter if I was off by 5 or 6 numbers, as it still would have been an incredibly profitable evening.
                            It's such a fabricated lie that you later came out and tweeted "sorry guys, I actually went 18-8, not 18-1", which is still wrong. You lost four bets on Junior Hernandez alone, which a lot of people (including V) know about as it was discussed in another thread, yet you went 18-1.
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                            • gabe
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                              • 09-12-11
                              • 7405

                              #49
                              Originally posted by MD
                              Yes, I made a public tweet that everyone could see, @ you. IE: I tweeted you. And no, I was only including wagers that you included in your "recommended plays" section of your articles, I wasn't counting Twitter bets, at all.

                              You're not supposed to mention how you did, but you do it anyway so that you can lie? The "you should have assumed I was stoned when I said I was 18-1 when I was actually 13-8" excuse is pretty silly, but I did tweet you about it in a friendly way, and your reaction made it look very intentional.

                              "This last time" that you lied, you were off by two losses, not one.

                              Dude, no one knows if you have "incredibly profitable nights" or not, because you alternate between "large" bets, "xunit" bets, and plays with no form of sizing whatsoever.
                              No, I was off by 1. And I did not include my FOTN +1000 hit in my number of "wins" -- why would i NOT do that if I want to make my record look better??? PLEASE ANSWER THAT.
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                              • gabe
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                                • 09-12-11
                                • 7405

                                #50
                                Originally posted by MD
                                It's such a fabricated lie that you later came out and tweeted "sorry guys, I actually went 18-8, not 18-1", which is still wrong. You lost four bets on Junior Hernandez alone, which a lot of people (including V) know about as it was discussed in another thread, yet you went 18-1.
                                Yes, I counted all 4 of those bets as 1 loss because I had taken what I would have laid on one bet and split it into 4 different bets... but when you cried about it, I counted it as 4 losses instead of 1 because it makes zero difference to me what the number is. did not matter if it was 1 loss or 4 losses, i still lost the same amount of money.

                                and i also included losses which were not recommended bets but personal bets i made AFTER the fights had started, JUST SO YOU WON'T CRY. Clearly my wins stayed at 18 though, so idono where you're pulling 13 from.

                                If you only count the bets I recommended on the site and not long-shot personal underdog bets I tweeted AFTER fights had started, my only loss that night was the Hernandez fight

                                but you don't care about shit like that.. you just wanna find something, ANYTHING you can try to hang me with
                                Last edited by gabe; 11-05-13, 01:31 PM.
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                                • Beelzebubzy
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                                  • 06-06-11
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                                  #51
                                  Here we go
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                                  • PunisherIND
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-24-11
                                    • 4979

                                    #52
                                    wouldn't it be easier to just say "filkinz" instead of "long shot personal underdog pick"? it is the same thing, after all.
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                                    • gabe
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-12-11
                                      • 7405

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by MD
                                      Just for the record, I never wanted you to lose your job, otherwise I wouldn't have told you politely in the first place. I even told Luca that I think you can be a valuable asset to his service if you stop manipulating your results. I don't wish you any ill will, I barely know you, I'm not going to wish badly on someone because they cussed me out on Twitter, I just don't respect what you're doing. I especially don't respect the way you handled it, because we were pretty friendly and we spoke often, and as soon as I told you that your recordkeeping was wrong, you were a massive dick to me. I don't think you're a bad person, and I hope you don't lose your job, but it's irresponsible of you to blame me when I let you know in advance that I thought you had made a "mistake", and you responded like that. Most others here would have just shafted you from the beginning.
                                      You never let me know as a friend that I made a mistake. We always used to talk in private messages, but you made that one a public tweet that, one that not only our followers but everyone could see...

                                      Shame on you if you really believe I would manufacture results on such clearly profitable nights where it would make absolutely zero sense to lie about numbers. I can't believe that you really believe that, because it would mean you really are mentally ill.
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                                      • MD
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-31-12
                                        • 9728

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by gabe
                                        No, I was off by 1. And I did not include my FOTN +1000 hit in my number of "wins" -- why would i NOT do that if I want to make my record look better??? PLEASE ANSWER THAT.
                                        Because you'd need to include all of the losses, too, retard.

                                        I'm getting tired of you lying to defend yourself, so I'm not even going to bother talking to you any more. I'm just going to point out you telling a massive lie, again, and then go back to more important things.

                                        Originally posted by gabe
                                        Yes, I counted all 4 of those bets as 1 loss because I had taken what I would have laid on one bet and split it into 4 different bets... but when you cried about it, I counted it as 4 losses instead of 1 because it makes zero difference to me what the number is. did not matter if it was 1 loss or 4 losses, i still lost the same amount of money.

                                        and i also included losses which were not recommended bets but personal bets i made AFTER the fights had started, JUST SO YOU WON'T CRY. Clearly my wins stayed at 18 though, so idono where you're pulling 13 from.

                                        If you only count the bets I recommended on the site and not long-shot personal underdog bets I tweeted AFTER fights had started, my only loss that night was the Hernandez fight

                                        but you don't care about shit like that.. you just wanna find something, ANYTHING you can try to hang me with
                                        Originally posted by gabe
                                        You never let me know as a friend that I made a mistake. We always used to talk in private messages, but you made that one a public tweet that, one that not only our followers but everyone could see...

                                        Shame on you if you really believe I would manufacture results on such clearly profitable nights
                                        where it would make absolutely zero sense to lie about numbers. I can't believe that you really believe that, because it would mean you really are mentally ill.
                                        LOL. A two-second Google search gives me:
                                        http://www.mmaoddsbreaker.com/news/u...-hernandez-jr/

                                        "Gabe’s Recommended Play: Ramiro Hernandez +3.5 -160 and Ramiro Hernandez +125, big on both. Moderate on Hernandez ITD +250, with a stab on Hernandez by Submission +1008 for sake of value. I think more than likely it will be a knockout, though, but I chose to go with ITD +250 prop, rather than the +330 prop, ‘cos I can see Hernandez also winning this by sub."

                                        That's only one loss because you split the money from one bet across four (which is still four losses, dumbass), even though you were "big" on two of them and "moderate" on another? Ok, Gabe. Anyone who would honestly believe you at this point is unreachable, and this thread isn't about you, so you can continue to lie as much as you want. I'm not going to waste any more of my time on it at this point.
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                                        • Beelzebubzy
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                                          • 06-06-11
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                                          #55
                                          Filkins on punisher sucking rooster for cash
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                                          • gabe
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                                            • 09-12-11
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                                            #56
                                            I never lied about a thing, but it's easy for someone who hates me to write paragraphs, say things, and make everybody reading who doesn't know the facts believe him and think I've been lying.

                                            Go through my play history yourself at mma odds breaker and you will see that someone who does as well as I do will never have reason to lie. In fact, go through my play history over the past few months and see if you know anyone who has done better than I have in those months I've been writing for them. I certainly don't know anyone who has done better, on this forum or anyone else. With results like that, I never have reason to manufacture anything, and I question anybody's intelligence who thinks I would.
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                                            • Beelzebubzy
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 06-06-11
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by gabe
                                              I never lied about a thing, but it's easy for someone who hates me to write paragraphs, say things, and make everybody reading who doesn't know the facts believe him and think I've been lying.

                                              Go through my play history yourself at mma odds breaker and you will see that someone who does as well as I will never have reason to lie. In fact, go through my play history over the past few months and see if you know anyone who has done better than I have in those months I've been writing for them. I certainly don't know anyone who has done better, on this forum or anyone else. With results like that, I never have reason to manufacture anything, and I question anybody's intelligence who thinks I would.
                                              I think he just did
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                                              • gabe
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-12-11
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by MD
                                                Because you'd need to include all of the losses, too, retard.

                                                I'm getting tired of you lying to defend yourself, so I'm not even going to bother talking to you any more. I'm just going to point out you telling a massive lie, again, and then go back to more important things.





                                                LOL. A two-second Google search gives me:
                                                http://www.mmaoddsbreaker.com/news/u...-hernandez-jr/

                                                "Gabe’s Recommended Play: Ramiro Hernandez +3.5 -160 and Ramiro Hernandez +125, big on both. Moderate on Hernandez ITD +250, with a stab on Hernandez by Submission +1008 for sake of value. I think more than likely it will be a knockout, though, but I chose to go with ITD +250 prop, rather than the +330 prop, ‘cos I can see Hernandez also winning this by sub."

                                                That's only one loss because you split the money from one bet across four (which is still four losses, dumbass), even though you were "big" on two of them and "moderate" on another? Ok, Gabe. Anyone who would honestly believe you at this point is unreachable, and this thread isn't about you, so you can continue to lie as much as you want. I'm not going to waste any more of my time on it at this point.
                                                What did this prove? Those were the ONLY recommended bets I lost that night, and EVERYTHING ELSE cashed, including Souza by Decision +650 and Hallmann ITD +450ish

                                                I counted that fight as 1 loss including 4, again which makes no difference in terms of dollars, but corrected it right after you pointed it out... yet, that did not satisfy your thirst for hate.

                                                And why would you need more than a 2 second google search to find exactly what you're looking for? WTF? just saying dumb shit...
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                                                • gabe
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                                                  • 09-12-11
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                  I think he just did
                                                  No.

                                                  And that was for people reading this, not the dude who is obsessed with me and making lies about me.
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                                                  • gabe
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                                                    • 09-12-11
                                                    • 7405

                                                    #60
                                                    I had an incredibly great night where I hit 18 recommended plays, including several huge dogs at +650, +450, etc., but because I did my tally like a dumbass, it discounts all the great work I did for that night? Only if you really hate me.
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                                                    • gabe
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-12-11
                                                      • 7405

                                                      #61
                                                      MD is a hater who has been obsessed with me for a while and has been out to do me harm, so I am not trying to convince him that I'm truthful, because he knows I am and is just looking for holes to try and hurt me.

                                                      For anyone who doesn't really know me, I'm a good guy and generally a very honest person. I never lie about anything, unless it would help get me pu$$y. I certainly would never try to lie about how many recommended bets won and lost, especially on incredibly profitable nights, and especially when I'm FULLY AWARE that MD is out there keeping track of all my shit. It would be very stupid of me to lie about numbers when I KNOW he is keeping track and will be on me if I make a mistake, which I did and he was.

                                                      I had an incredibly great night of bets, but if anybody is as offended as MD that I missed the Boetsch under prop for my tally, then I apologize.
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                                                      • MD
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                                                        • 01-31-12
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                        I think he just did
                                                        I forgot to separate the big fliers from the big plays.

                                                        On topic, and since we're discussing MMAOB, Adam Martin. Guy is a terrible judge, consistently bad. I always laugh when I see every other media judge give someone the fight, and then Martin is the only dissenter.
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                                                        • Beelzebubzy
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                                                          • 06-06-11
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                                                          #63
                                                          Md is jelly that your a tout and he is a gay body builder that bangs his pseudo girlfriend to the ufc gladiator theme

                                                          go get them winnerz gabe
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                                                          • Grabaka
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-19-11
                                                            • 3216

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                            Filkins on punisher sucking rooster for cash
                                                            DAMMIT what book? Local?
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                                                            • MD
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                                                              • 01-31-12
                                                              • 9728

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                              Md is jelly that your a tout and he is a gay body builder that bangs his pseudo girlfriend to the ufc gladiator theme

                                                              go get them winnerz gabe
                                                              I'll have you know that my girlfriend is all woman. She just looks like she's 16.
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                                                              • Hannibal
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-15-11
                                                                • 1055

                                                                #66
                                                                Gabe doesnt lie, he is just delusional. You are simply mistaking incompetence for lies. Why would he care about losing his mmaob job if he is able to consistently profit from mma wagering? Lol its cause he doesnt. Anyone can flip between having good events and bad events. How do we even know he is profitable? I never see his units/bet. He uses the good ol' ultra ambiguity like "moderate". Lol then he always backtracks and convinces himself that his winning bets were the ones he bet the most on. Gabe has been an idiot since day one..why did it take so long for you guys to realize?

                                                                Gabe is just a delusional gambling addict that always thinks he's up and always thinks he has an edge. Your time in he past 3 years would have been better served earning minimum wage at at McDonalds.
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                                                                • hobbesITD
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 01-06-13
                                                                  • 284

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Who can resist the siren's call of mad-posting on SBR?
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                                                                  • mmaed
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-25-11
                                                                    • 1327

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by MD
                                                                    Because you'd need to include all of the losses, too, retard.

                                                                    I'm getting tired of you lying to defend yourself, so I'm not even going to bother talking to you any more. I'm just going to point out you telling a massive lie, again, and then go back to more important things.





                                                                    LOL. A two-second Google search gives me:
                                                                    http://www.mmaoddsbreaker.com/news/u...-hernandez-jr/

                                                                    "Gabe’s Recommended Play: Ramiro Hernandez +3.5 -160 and Ramiro Hernandez +125, big on both. Moderate on Hernandez ITD +250, with a stab on Hernandez by Submission +1008 for sake of value. I think more than likely it will be a knockout, though, but I chose to go with ITD +250 prop, rather than the +330 prop, ‘cos I can see Hernandez also winning this by sub."

                                                                    That's only one loss because you split the money from one bet across four (which is still four losses, dumbass), even though you were "big" on two of them and "moderate" on another? Ok, Gabe. Anyone who would honestly believe you at this point is unreachable, and this thread isn't about you, so you can continue to lie as much as you want. I'm not going to waste any more of my time on it at this point.
                                                                    Technically MD has a point here. You said you went big on two of the bets you claimed were played as a split up version of one bet. If your going to gauge bets I would think "big" would be at the top end. I am skeptical that you have a unit size you would call larger than "big". It looks like you plainly lost four bets. Unless of course you can explain this. I think your best bet is to use units and keep a public record of your results.
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                                                                    • bjpenn85
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 02-17-11
                                                                      • 5059

                                                                      #69
                                                                      If youre reading this gabe i will have to advice you to stop smoking and get a degree. And stop telling jokes. And stop betting. And log out of this forum. And get help. You should thank me.
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                                                                      • mirinquads
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 04-22-13
                                                                        • 3927

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Is it too late for popcorn dude?

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