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  • hobbesITD
    SBR Sharp
    • 01-06-13
    • 284

    #106
    Originally posted by Luca Fury
    Everyone knows boxing judges are corrupt and MMA judges are just plain inept. Everyone but you, apparently.
    What makes you say this? A lot of MMA judges are also licensed boxing judges
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    • MD
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-31-12
      • 9728

      #107
      Originally posted by gabe
      Really? Then how much did I lose on my documented plays?

      Anybody tailing my plays would have profited as well, "bro"

      9-10 with a lot of the losses being little plays on longshot dogs like Reis by Submission and Forte by Submission... I just had a short little laugh at how big of a hater you are, man... it really is funny.

      A hater like you will always find something to hate on... even when I killed it on that Brazil card, grew my bankroll 6x, and this clown comes out of nowhere talking shit... lollllll too funny man, TOO FUNNY.
      You didn't go 9-10. Such bullshit, Gabe.

      It's a "little play on a longshot dog" when you take Reis by submission in the +500 range, but it's a killer play that saves your night when you recommend Jones by unanimous decision +440.

      If you "grew your bankroll 6x" on one card, that says a lot about what kind of gambler you are. Also, I didn't talk any shit to you after that, I congratulated you on the great night, and asked you why you were claiming to have went 18-1 when that was complete lies. And of course you got angry and DM'd me a bunch of abuse, since no one can question Gabe's honesty even when he's blatantly lying.
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      • MD
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-31-12
        • 9728

        #108
        Originally posted by hobbesITD
        Just check the athletic commissions websites. If that doesn't work, send them a friendly e-mail or call.

        The trick is to be proactive.
        Sharp. You noticed any trends with particular judges? I only know of a couple that I'd consider inept at this point, but I haven't paid the most attention.
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        • Luca Fury
          SBR MVP
          • 05-10-12
          • 1136

          #109
          Originally posted by hobbesITD
          What makes you say this? A lot of MMA judges are also licensed boxing judges
          Serious question: do you even watch or follow boxing? It's common knowledge that boxing judges are corrupt. I can't believe you're even trying to debate this.

          Originally posted by hobbesITD
          Just check the athletic commissions websites. If that doesn't work, send them a friendly e-mail or call.

          The trick is to be proactive.
          That doesn't work. MMA Media sites always try to get the info on who is judging and reffing early. When they do get that info, they post stories on it. But the thing is, outside of the very rare occasion, they never get that info until the fights are about to start because the commissions are tight lipped about it. We're lucky to know who the refs will be on fight day afternoon.

          It's not like boxing where this info is usually made public a good amount in advance.
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          • reigle9
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-25-07
            • 17879

            #110
            Originally posted by MD
            You didn't go 9-10. Such bullshit, Gabe.
            I think he means 9 wins and 10 losses, not 9 for 10 like I believe you're reading it.
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            • hobbesITD
              SBR Sharp
              • 01-06-13
              • 284

              #111
              Originally posted by MD
              Sharp. You noticed any trends with particular judges? I only know of a couple that I'd consider inept at this point, but I haven't paid the most attention.
              I've been looking into it since the Wade Vierra judging incident. It's too early to tell if there is a noticeable edge but every bit of information helps.
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              • MD
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-31-12
                • 9728

                #112
                Originally posted by reigle9
                I think he means 9 wins and 10 losses, not 9 for 10 like I believe you're reading it.
                I know what he means, and he's still not being honest. This is a guy who claimed to be 18-1 when he had four lost bets on one fight, and four 1u FotN bets.
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                • hobbesITD
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 01-06-13
                  • 284

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Luca Fury
                  Serious question: do you even watch or follow boxing? It's common knowledge that boxing judges are corrupt. I can't believe you're even trying to debate this.
                  What makes you think MMA judges can't be bought? You of all people should know that MMA betting is turning into a huge business.

                  Originally posted by Luca Fury
                  That doesn't work. MMA Media sites always try to get the info on who is judging and reffing early. When they do get that info, they post stories on it. But the thing is, outside of the very rare occasion, they never get that info until the fights are about to start because the commissions are tight lipped about it. We're lucky to know who the refs will be on fight day afternoon.

                  It's not like boxing where this info is usually made public a good amount in advance.
                  MMA media don't write about judges because it is easier and more profitable to write a story on whether or not Jon Jones could beat Floyd Mayweather in a boxing match. MMA journalism, and sports journalism in general, is trashy click-bait.

                  But whatever, keep pretending it's impossible to get judging assignments before the fight starts.
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                  • Luca Fury
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-10-12
                    • 1136

                    #114
                    Originally posted by hobbesITD
                    MMA media don't write about judges because it is easier and more profitable to write a story on whether or not Jon Jones could beat Floyd Mayweather in a boxing match. MMA journalism, and sports journalism in general, is trashy click-bait.

                    But whatever, keep pretending it's impossible to get judging assignments before the fight starts.
                    Yeah, what do I know about the inter workings of the MMA Media? I mean, I only worked for the #1 MMA website (Sherdog) for multiple years as both a writer and radio host, which included contacting various people within the MMA world for information. People such as fighters, trainers, managers and… oh yeah, people who worked at athletic commissions like referees and commissioners.

                    But clearly some random guy on a forum knows more about what goes on behind the scenes at MMA websites than me.
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                    • hobbesITD
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 01-06-13
                      • 284

                      #115
                      Behold the high quality of MMA Journalism

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                      • The iron sheik
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-17-13
                        • 1105

                        #116
                        Well goddamn, aren't you just a snowflake and all round awesome
                        I want to smell your farts, I bet they smell of +EV and lavender
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                        • Thor4140
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-09-08
                          • 22296

                          #117
                          Originally posted by hobbesITD
                          What makes you say this? A lot of MMA judges are also licensed boxing judges
                          Because he is another nitwit simpleton who thinks he knows it all. To say Boxing judges are corrupt but MMA judges are just bad is about as naive as it gets. Then this fraud say's the bad judging helps the public LMFAO. In big bet fights i love to see where he has seen this.
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                          • Thor4140
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-09-08
                            • 22296

                            #118
                            Originally posted by hobbesITD
                            What makes you think MMA judges can't be bought? You of all people should know that MMA betting is turning into a huge business.



                            MMA media don't write about judges because it is easier and more profitable to write a story on whether or not Jon Jones could beat Floyd Mayweather in a boxing match. MMA journalism, and sports journalism in general, is trashy click-bait.

                            But whatever, keep pretending it's impossible to get judging assignments before the fight starts.
                            Hobbes, he is the typical clown who is in that boxing thread LOu started about MMA being boring sticking up for MMA, when in fact if u were a true fight fan u would watch both. He is one of those UFC fan boys who will use his last breath trying to say mma is legit. To think one set of judges are corrupt and the others are just bad is about as laughable as it gets.
                            Last edited by Thor4140; 09-25-13, 05:36 PM.
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                            • Grabaka
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-19-11
                              • 3216

                              #119
                              I kinda feel like everyone is becoming Luca Fury alike lately. Why do you have the need to think everyone is a clown but yourself? why do you feel the need to share your thoughts with clowns?

                              Edit: Its a question for everyone not the above post
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                              • Luca Fury
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-10-12
                                • 1136

                                #120
                                Originally posted by hobbesITD
                                Behold the high quality of MMA Journalism

                                http://deadspin.com/5948776/this-is-...sage-gets-made
                                Yes, because 1 article from 1 site represents the style and quality of every writer from every site.

                                Originally posted by Thor4140
                                Because he is another nitwit simpleton who thinks he knows it all. To say Boxing judges are corrupt but MMA judges are just bad is about as naive as it gets. Then this fraud say's the bad judging helps the public LMFAO. In big bet fights i love to see where he has seen this.
                                You're not even worth my time. You're known around here for be a pathetic waste of space.

                                But yeah, bad judging does help the public far more than it helps the sharps. This is a fact. It's not surprising you don't know this, though, considering you don't seem to know anything at all.
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                                • Luca Fury
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-10-12
                                  • 1136

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by Grabaka
                                  I kinda feel like everyone is becoming Luca Fury alike lately. Why do you have the need to think everyone is a clown but yourself? why do you feel the need to share your thoughts with clowns?

                                  Edit: Its a question for everyone not the above post
                                  Yes, I'm the bad guy of this forum and all bad behavior is people mimicking me. Right.

                                  Funny, considering I've never started an argument with anyone on here and only attack people who have already attacked me unprovoked. Hell, before I even signed up to this forum people were bashing me. But because I signup and reply to them, I'M the bad guy. Great logic there………
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                                  • Grabaka
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-19-11
                                    • 3216

                                    #122
                                    Man if you were to climb your ego and jump from it you would not live to tell
                                    You annoy everyone dont act like the bullied kid nobody buys your act...
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                                    • Sacrelicious
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-29-12
                                      • 5984

                                      #123
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                                      • hobbesITD
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 01-06-13
                                        • 284

                                        #124
                                        Sniping at each other is dumb. Can we go back to the original point?

                                        Luca, why don't you think MMA judges can be bought?
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                                        • Thor4140
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-09-08
                                          • 22296

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by Grabaka
                                          I kinda feel like everyone is becoming Luca Fury alike lately. Why do you have the need to think everyone is a clown but yourself? why do you feel the need to share your thoughts with clowns?

                                          Edit: Its a question for everyone not the above post
                                          Well it is nicer than calling him a dik
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                                          • Thor4140
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-09-08
                                            • 22296

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by Luca Fury
                                            Yes, I'm the bad guy of this forum and all bad behavior is people mimicking me. Right.

                                            Funny, considering I've never started an argument with anyone on here and only attack people who have already attacked me unprovoked. Hell, before I even signed up to this forum people were bashing me. But because I signup and reply to them, I'M the bad guy. Great logic there………
                                            u don't think your pimpin was a bit overboard the other night? I have no problem with u charging for picks but that display was nauseating
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                                            • Luca Fury
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 05-10-12
                                              • 1136

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by Grabaka
                                              Man if you were to climb your ego and jump from it you would not live to tell
                                              You annoy everyone dont act like the bullied kid nobody buys your act...
                                              I'd like you to go and find a post where i attacked someone unprovoked on here. You won't find one, because I never do.

                                              Originally posted by hobbesITD
                                              Sniping at each other is dumb. Can we go back to the original point?

                                              Luca, why don't you think MMA judges can be bought?
                                              I didn't say they can't be. I just said bad MMA judging comes from ineptitude. Corruption in boxing isn't because of them betting on one fighter, it's corrupt for whoever the promotion is promoting. This is a common trend.

                                              In MMA you don't see that. The marketable guys get robbed all the time, there is no trend where the guys who get gift decisions are the guys the UFC is trying to promote. It's all random.
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                                              • Grabaka
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-19-11
                                                • 3216

                                                #128
                                                I dont need to...you called me a loser. There you go. Unprovoked attack.....now you must die
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                                                • Luca Fury
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-10-12
                                                  • 1136

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                  u don't think your pimpin was a bit overboard the other night? I have no problem with u charging for picks but that display was nauseating
                                                  I'm not allowed to do what every body else does and post whether a bet won or lost? I went 6-1 on that night so there was more posts of winning, sorry I'm actually good at betting. And you act like I only post wins but never losses, which in reality I post an updated regardless of if it won or lost.

                                                  Not to mention, I gave out bets in that thread long before the fights including one at +500 and they all won for 18.45 units. But I'm not allowed to mention how the bets I gave out in that very thread did?

                                                  Where were you complainging about me posting results when I had a losing event a couple cards ago and posted that on here? I didn't see you bitching about me mention how I lost. No, I'm sure you were loving it. But now that I got back to winning you get all mad. God forbid you see someone succeed where you fail.

                                                  Also, there are guys like you who post every losing bet I make but never the wins. Even on nights where I go like 4-1, they rush to the forum to post the 1 loss but don't mention the winning night. So I have to keep the jackasses honest and post both wins and losses myself.
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                                                  • Luca Fury
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-10-12
                                                    • 1136

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by Grabaka
                                                    I dont need to...you called me a loser. There you go. Unprovoked attack.....now you must die
                                                    I mentioned one time that your thread was down units and it wasn't an attack or even in a conversation with you. In fact, I even prefaced it by saying I meant no disrespect by it and hoped you wouldn't get offended since you seem like a nice dude.

                                                    Then you threw a temper tantrum and denied it. Then I proved you were down huge and you finally admitted it.
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                                                    • Luca Fury
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-10-12
                                                      • 1136

                                                      #131
                                                      This thread is a perfect example of why SBR only has like 5 posters in the MMA section and everyone on the outside laughs at what a joke it is.

                                                      You try to have an intelligent debate and point out facts, then the moronic trolls like Thor, Pelkz (or whatever his name is), etc, come in and derail the thread. Will the mods do their job and keep the trolls out? Of course not. When have they ever done that?

                                                      The SBR forum will always be a laughing stock because the immature losers are allowed to run rampant.
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                                                      • reigle9
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-25-07
                                                        • 17879

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by Luca Fury

                                                        The SBR forum will always be a laughing stock because the immature losers are allowed to run rampant.
                                                        What forum do you suggest?
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                                                        • MD
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-31-12
                                                          • 9728

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by reigle9
                                                          What forum do you suggest?
                                                          There are no better gambling forums than this one to be honest. There are a lot of retards, but there's a lot to learn, too, if you pay attention.

                                                          Luca has a point, there are a lot of trolls, but he is exaggerating as he always does. He's incredibly defensive and isn't worth paying attention to when he's arguing with people. It gets very petty and ridiculous between him and some of the guys on here.
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                                                          • Educ8d Degener8
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-12-10
                                                            • 3177

                                                            #134
                                                            Fury, read a goddamn sales book already.

                                                            You're here to try and market your, um, "services", and you proceed to insult the entire board.

                                                            That's amateur stuff. You've just alienated your potential clientele base.

                                                            Even IF your record was amazing, your pitch and delivery are remarkably off-putting.

                                                            Look up the author Chris Lytle, swear to god that's his name.

                                                            Real talk.
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                                                            • Thor4140
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-09-08
                                                              • 22296

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by Grabaka
                                                              Man if you were to climb your ego and jump from it you would not live to tell
                                                              You annoy everyone dont act like the bullied kid nobody buys your act...
                                                              exactly what he does and his pathetic attempt to have someone banned recently was just that pathetic. Sbr is a wasteland but this dim bulb continues to post here. What does this say about this douchebag?
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                                                              • Thor4140
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 02-09-08
                                                                • 22296

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by Luca Fury
                                                                I'm not allowed to do what every body else does and post whether a bet won or lost? I went 6-1 on that night so there was more posts of winning, sorry I'm actually good at betting. And you act like I only post wins but never losses, which in reality I post an updated regardless of if it won or lost.

                                                                Not to mention, I gave out bets in that thread long before the fights including one at +500 and they all won for 18.45 units. But I'm not allowed to mention how the bets I gave out in that very thread did?

                                                                Where were you complainging about me posting results when I had a losing event a couple cards ago and posted that on here? I didn't see you bitching about me mention how I lost. No, I'm sure you were loving it. But now that I got back to winning you get all mad. God forbid you see someone succeed where you fail.

                                                                Also, there are guys like you who post every losing bet I make but never the wins. Even on nights where I go like 4-1, they rush to the forum to post the 1 loss but don't mention the winning night. So I have to keep the jackasses honest and post both wins and losses myself.
                                                                let me see if i have this right. You were telling people u were having a bad night fifty straight times like when u were pounding ur chest the other day like a child? Trust me when MD said how about calming it down there were fifty guys who felt the same way. Ur a fukin joke dude. I was catching up on that thread and thought my computer was screwing up seeing u pound ur chest like that. I thought i was reading the same post over and over.
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                                                                • Grabaka
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-19-11
                                                                  • 3216

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by Luca Fury
                                                                  I mentioned one time that your thread was down units and it wasn't an attack or even in a conversation with you. In fact, I even prefaced it by saying I meant no disrespect by it and hoped you wouldn't get offended since you seem like a nice dude.

                                                                  Then you threw a temper tantrum and denied it. Then I proved you were down huge and you finally admitted it.
                                                                  HAHA you delusional fool. You did disrespect me. It doesnt matter if you say "i mean no disrespect" if you proceded to disrespect.
                                                                  You caught me at my worst time last round but now my mojo is back and Grabaka keeps raping your shitty MMAOD premium shit.
                                                                  But im not a prick like yourself so i dont have to rub every penetrating win on everybodys faces.

                                                                  You didnt answer my question. Why are you here if this place is just clowns?
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                                                                  • Grabaka
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-19-11
                                                                    • 3216

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by MD
                                                                    There are no better gambling forums than this one to be honest. There are a lot of retards, but there's a lot to learn, too, if you pay attention.

                                                                    Luca has a point, there are a lot of trolls, but he is exaggerating as he always does. He's incredibly defensive and isn't worth paying attention to when he's arguing with people. It gets very petty and ridiculous between him and some of the guys on here.
                                                                    He says he has never disrespected nobody but if you enter a room and yell all this guys are stupid....well, guess what? you are disrespecting everybody in the room so of course he has been disrespectful. Then he cries if someone calls him Sucka Bury. penetrating tool/
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                                                                    • Grabaka
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-19-11
                                                                      • 3216

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                                                                      Fury, read a goddamn sales book already.

                                                                      You're here to try and market your, um, "services", and you proceed to insult the entire board.

                                                                      That's amateur stuff. You've just alienated your potential clientele base.

                                                                      Even IF your record was amazing, your pitch and delivery are remarkably off-putting.

                                                                      Look up the author Chris Lytle, swear to god that's his name.

                                                                      Real talk.
                                                                      Amen! Now you have a bunch of guys ready to give your picks for free. Why pay 50 bucks when you can get them free.

                                                                      Real talk
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                                                                      • reigle9
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 10-25-07
                                                                        • 17879

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by MD

                                                                        Luca has a point, there are a lot of trolls, but he is exaggerating as he always does.
                                                                        I hate the internet because of trolls, I don't get the point. I've been here for two days and already want to headkick some dork. But yeah, I like this forum and hope to stick around.
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