On2 vs Nunya for the MD bet

MD · 08-28-13, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I would trust BigDay as well, Punisher would still be preferable to me, however.

At this point with the information On2 divulged to me in private, I don't feel like escrow is necessary. We have played in some of the same games, so this is definitely not his case money.

I will take your word for it. He may not trust me, though.

**Vaughany** · 08-28-13, 01:03 PM

Yo Pun, take this money, and when I get to New York next month we'll have an uber-good time courtesy of these fine fellows!

**Vaughany** · 08-28-13, 01:03 PM

oh shiit was sposed to PM Pun that!

**On2TheNext1** · 08-28-13, 01:06 PM

Yeah, if Punisher is willing to share his real name with me in private I'm cool with posting with him.

MD, would you be open to one little extra in verifying you are in control of whatever account you're claiming and not posting someone elses? I'll reimburse you for a minimum bet on something exotic like a Sprint Cup or Hockey future, would basically prove it's not a picture of a friends account and that you control the account unequivocally if there's a random Sprint Cup bet amongst MMA wagers. Obviously I'll reimburse you win or lose for the min bet. Agreeable?

MD · 08-28-13, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by On2TheNext1

Yeah, if Punisher is willing to share his real name with me in private I'm cool with posting with him.

MD, would you be open to one little extra in verifying you are in control of whatever account you're claiming and not posting someone elses? I'll reimburse you for a minimum bet on something exotic like a Sprint Cup or Hockey future, would basically prove it's not a picture of a friends account and that you control the account unequivocally if there's a random Sprint Cup bet amongst MMA wagers. Obviously I'll reimburse you win or lose for the min bet. Agreeable?

It wouldn't be hard to find my account on Sportsbook if you knew someone who worked there and I did that, though.

**NunyaBidness** · 08-28-13, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by MD

It wouldn't be hard to find my account on Sportsbook if you knew someone who worked there and I did that, though.

But who would care?

I think its a very reasonable request.

**PunisherIND** · 08-28-13, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

oh shiit was sposed to PM Pun that!

hehe

**On2TheNext1** · 08-28-13, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by MD

It wouldn't be hard to find my account on Sportsbook if you knew someone who worked there and I did that, though.

I assure you I'm not a hacker.

MD · 08-28-13, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

But who would care?

I think its a very reasonable request.

Fair enough. On2, will you give me your word that you won't use any information that I give you maliciously, in any way, or in any attempt to find out information about my wagering history, or in any attempt to find out more information about me. I also want your word that you will not share any information I give you with anyone, including but not limited to those who work at bookies.

Reasonable?

**PunisherIND** · 08-28-13, 01:18 PM

ok, i caught up on all these posts. i am willing to escrow, but still not sure how you will get the funds to me. i dont do bitcoins, unfortunately. i could work with 5d if they allow player to player transfers. or paypal, i think.

**PunisherIND** · 08-28-13, 01:20 PM

whats the standard escrow fee? 10%?

MD · 08-28-13, 01:20 PM

Nunya says that this guy is likely to pay if he loses. I'm willing to take his word.

On2, you think I'm a liar, so I'll understand if you do not think I'll pay if I lose. Are you willing to go without escrow?

**NunyaBidness** · 08-28-13, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

whats the standard escrow fee? 10%?

Usually like 3% of the winners end. Think 5% would be fair here.

He said he can't do paypal, but BkofAma and chase and ING/Capital One do person to person transfers that happen pretty much instantly.

**NunyaBidness** · 08-28-13, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

ok, i caught up on all these posts. i am willing to escrow, but still not sure how you will get the funds to me. i dont do bitcoins, unfortunately. i could work with 5d if they allow player to player transfers. or paypal, i think.

Somebody wanna check if 5d does player to player transfers? I don't like chatting with those dudes.

**sideloaded** · 08-28-13, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Somebody wanna check if 5d does player to player transfers? I don't like chatting with those dudes.

Account to Account Transfers

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For more information contact 5Dimes Customer Service Live Help.

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MD · 08-28-13, 01:28 PM

On2, could you take like 45 minutes to talk about this? You keep going AFK and taking forever to reply.

**PunisherIND** · 08-28-13, 01:31 PM

whatever you guys want to do. if you want to use me as escrow, i'll gladly do it for 5%.

5dimes would be preferable, but i can also get to a chase or capital one if you'd rather.

let's try to decide quick though. would rather not miss any fights over this.

MD · 08-28-13, 01:32 PM

Let's do 5D. Absolutely.

**PunisherIND** · 08-28-13, 01:33 PM

although, this may be an obstacle to using 5d

Account to Account Transfers are not permitted when an account has been funded with a credit/DC.

**NunyaBidness** · 08-28-13, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

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Ok, that's awesome then.

So, we all transfer to Pun. Once Pun confirms he has received funds from all parties, he posts it in the forum.

On2 Requests a specific bet to be posted

MD posts his evidence as stated in this thread.

Money gets shipped to the winner(s) -5% for Pun's service.

Do all four parties agree?

**On2TheNext1** · 08-28-13, 01:33 PM

I'm at work, sorry, but no I will not use any information for any purposes other than to verify our bet and won't share it with anyone outside of the bet (Nunya, Punisher, you, me). If there's an issue, concern, point of contention I will share it with Punisher to arbitrate. You don't have to escrow if Nunya is willing to vouch/cover the $2.5k should you lose/not pay.

**NunyaBidness** · 08-28-13, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

although, this may be an obstacle to using 5d

Account to Account Transfers are not permitted when an account has been funded with a credit/DC.

Hmmmm, maybe they'll waive it if you ask them?

**On2TheNext1** · 08-28-13, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

although, this may be an obstacle to using 5d

Account to Account Transfers are not permitted when an account has been funded with a credit/DC.

I'm CC funded, but I've rolled it over 10x at least and received payouts... wonder if that still applies?

**NunyaBidness** · 08-28-13, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by On2TheNext1

I'm CC funded, but I've rolled it over 10x at least and received payouts... wonder if that still applies?

Chat with them and find out. It's the easiest solution since it requires no names to be divulged, only account numbers.

My account is only funded by **, so no problems there.

MD · 08-28-13, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by On2TheNext1

I'm at work, sorry, but no I will not use any information for any purposes other than to verify our bet and won't share it with anyone outside of the bet (Nunya, Punisher, you, me). If there's an issue, concern, point of contention I will share it with Punisher to arbitrate. You don't have to escrow if Nunya is willing to vouch/cover the $2.5k should you lose/not pay.

Punisher is willing to escrow. So I have your word that you will not, under any circumstances, share any of the information I give to you with anyone except for Nunya, Punisher, and myself? You will not use it in any attempt to find out any information about my sportsbook account? Would you be willing to state that if you do share my personal information with one of the persons not listed here, or if you perform any other sort of malicious activity with this information, or if you attempt to view my wagering history through contacting someone who works at sportsbook.ag (or anything to that extent, including 5D if you get my 5D account number, or any other book, affiliated or not), that you would reimburse me for $2500? Same question to Nunya and Punisher.

Could you state that in a clear manor, if you wouldn't mind?

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Ok, that's awesome then.

So, we all transfer to Pun. Once Pun confirms he has received funds from all parties, he posts it in the forum.

On2 Requests a specific bet to be posted

MD posts his evidence as stated in this thread.

Money gets shipped to the winner(s) -5% for Pun's service.

Do all four parties agree?

I agree to these terms, provided you all agree to the above.

**Vaughany** · 08-28-13, 01:42 PM

**NunyaBidness** · 08-28-13, 01:44 PM

I will definitely agree to all that MD. I guess the only sticking point right now is finding out if everyone can do the transfers over dimes or if we need to figure out another way.

I vote at this point we delay everything until tomorrow. Whether or not your bet already wins or loses should have no matter. And at this point I really need to focus on the fight card, still haven't capped the two main card fights.

MD · 08-28-13, 01:46 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I will definitely agree to all that MD. I guess the only sticking point right now is finding out if everyone can do the transfers over dimes or if we need to figure out another way.

I vote at this point we delay everything until tomorrow. Whether or not your bet already wins or loses should have no matter. And at this point I really need to focus on the fight card, still haven't capped the two main card fights.

I don't want to delay until tomorrow if possible. We can get this all sorted out really quickly.

**PunisherIND** · 08-28-13, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by MD

Punisher is willing to escrow. So I have your word that you will not, under any circumstances, share any of the information I give to you with anyone except for Nunya, Punisher, and myself? You will not use it in any attempt to find out any information about my sportsbook account? Would you be willing to state that if you do share my personal information with one of the persons not listed here, or if you perform any other sort of malicious activity with this information, or if you attempt to view my wagering history through contacting someone who works at sportsbook.ag (or anything to that extent, including 5D if you get my 5D account number, or any other book, affiliated or not), that you would reimburse me for $2500? Same question to Nunya and Punisher.

Could you state that in a clear manor, if you wouldn't mind?

agreed. lets just say this applies to each of us, as to each and every one of the other parties. since you will also be getting my 5d account number and possibly other information.

**PunisherIND** · 08-28-13, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Ok, that's awesome then.

So, we all transfer to Pun. Once Pun confirms he has received funds from all parties, he posts it in the forum.

On2 Requests a specific bet to be posted

MD posts his evidence as stated in this thread.

Money gets shipped to the winner(s) -5% for Pun's service.

Do all four parties agree?

agree with this as well.

would like to know if we can do this on 5d though. getting to a branch location might be a little difficult if we are doing this right now.

MD · 08-28-13, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

agreed. lets just say this applies to each of us, as to each and every one of the other parties. since you will also be getting my 5d account number and possibly other information.

That's fine. I agree to the terms. $2500 reimbursement to anyone whose details I use inappropriately (as defined above), including yourself, On2TheNext1 and Nunya.

MD · 08-28-13, 01:48 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

agree with this as well.

would like to know if we can do this on 5d though. getting to a branch location might be a little difficult if we are doing this right now.

Could you ask 5D support if you can do account-to-account transfers?

**NunyaBidness** · 08-28-13, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by MD

I don't want to delay until tomorrow if possible. We can get this all sorted out really quickly.

That's fine, I just can't keep rechecking this thread every 5 minutes. Pun and I have already worked out how I'm sending him the funds, so its up to you guys to figure out the rest of it.

I think those two are at they're jobs, so I don't expect them to be able to solve it immediately. Perhaps over PMs. Somebody shoot me a message when its worked out.

As far as I'm concerned everything is booked and ready to go once funds are escrowed.

**NunyaBidness** · 08-28-13, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by PunisherIND

agree with this as well.

would like to know if we can do this on 5d though. getting to a branch location might be a little difficult if we are doing this right now.

All the banks I mentioned you can do it on their website in minutes.

Some of them you can even send to people who don't have an account with that specific bank. I am 90% sure BkofAma is one of them.

**PunisherIND** · 08-28-13, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

I will definitely agree to all that MD. I guess the only sticking point right now is finding out if everyone can do the transfers over dimes or if we need to figure out another way.

I vote at this point we delay everything until tomorrow. Whether or not your bet already wins or loses should have no matter. And at this point I really need to focus on the fight card, still haven't capped the two main card fights.

still down to do this now provided we can do it on 5d.

but i have no problem pushing it over until tomorrow, particularly if we arent able to use 5d.