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  • MD
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-31-12
    • 9728

    #1
    Tim Kennedy -144
    This might honestly be my favourite straight bet on this card. Kennedy should be closer -300 at least. Lots of value here in my opinion.

    Kennedy's fight IQ and his ability to dictate a freakishly high pace for a middleweight should give him a huge edge over Gracie. Gracie's cardio is lackluster, especially compared to a guy with Kennedy's conditioning, who can go five rounds without slowing down. On the ground, Kennedy is extremely good, he was able to take down Jacare and control him without Jacare being able to do much, but obviously Roger has the edge. Kennedy's takedown defence has always been superb, and even in his last fight, he was taken down repeatedly by a guy in Trevor Smith who had similar height and reach edges to Gracie, but who was physically stronger than Gracie and a better wrestler. Despite that, Kennedy was impossible to hold down and immediately returned to his feet. Hell, he stuffed all three of Jacare's takedowns, and Jacare is far more athletic and powerful than Roger. He'll have a big striking edge and his pace should tire Roger very quickly.

    The only worry I have about this fight is Roger's high output of jabs. While he's a technically awful striker, his huge reach affords him the opportunity to make mistakes unpunished. Throwing a lot of weak, powerless jabs against a guy like Kennedy shouldn't work, but with MMA judges, who knows. Roger's volume could be enough to steal a decision if Kennedy is complacent.

    Given how many advantages Kennedy has, and how tight the line is, I think this is a good spot for a big play. Kennedy is exactly the kind of fighter I like to bet on; he's intelligent, he's got a great camp (Jackson's), and he's got the perfect skillset to neutralize Gracie if he chooses to. He's also a bull and should have a big strength edge.
  • BIGDAY
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 02-17-10
    • 48245

    #2
    I like Kennedy as well.
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    • Beelzebubzy
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 06-06-11
      • 6995

      #3
      Me too
      played -130 large
      my big play to win 5u
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      • varkolek
        SBR High Roller
        • 07-17-11
        • 230

        #4
        When I first heard about the match up, my first instinct was to bet big on Roger. But I hadn't seen either Kennedy's or Roger's most recent fights.

        Kennedy has his head straight up and will be at a significant reach disadvantage, should be available to Roger's jab and he has a pretty good jab. This doesn't mean Roger will dominate the offence in striking, but it should limit what offense Kennedy can do.

        I don't think cardio will be too much of an issue since Roger is extremely relaxed in the cage. But I do think Kennedy's pace and movement can frustrate Roger and can see Kennedy win a decision. I know Jacare's more athletic and powerful than Roger, but think Roger is a lot stronger physically. Roger has reaching take downs often, but if he can get a hold of Kennedy I think he can get take downs.

        At the moment I've bet on the fight going the distance, have some on Roger by decision, which is all hedged against Gracie inside the distance. I'm about to rewatch the fight with Jardine and Kennedy-Miller and will probably add a bit more on Roger.
        Last edited by varkolek; 07-06-13, 01:05 PM.
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        • MD
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-31-12
          • 9728

          #5
          ^ Kennedy can definitely get the stoppage here. He hits hard and he has good counter-punching. I definitely disagree that Gracie has a good jab, by the way.
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          • varkolek
            SBR High Roller
            • 07-17-11
            • 230

            #6
            It's possible Kennedy gets a stoppage, and I'll lose a reasonable amount if he does. He was landing a lot of uppercuts on Trevor Smith. But I don't think Kennedy is an extremely hard hitter, certainly not having the same power as Mo Lawal. I was just watching the fight with Jacare, it was a while ago and both Kennedy and Jacare are improved since then, but Frank Shamrock was saying Kennedy brings his feet too close together beneath him, which takes away from his power.

            It's not like Roger has outstanding defence, but I think with the reach advantage Kennedy getting a KO is unlikely. I actually feel that if Roger took many unprotected head shots from Kennedy a KO is still unlikely. But I probably tend to err on the wrong side of these matters. I usually cap by trying to figure out which fighter has stopping ability and tend to take the distance side a bit more often.
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            • Kaladarus
              SBR MVP
              • 11-11-09
              • 1876

              #7
              I agree with MD and this is a big play for me as well. Kennedy is an aggressive fighter and Gracie doesn't really threaten him with a finish on the feet. It's unlikely that Kennedy will have problems closing distance or deciding where the fight takes place.

              I think this fight goes to decision a lot more often than not, but also feel that will favor Kennedy and Kennedy is a better price than the fight going the distance.

              Another big factor in this fight other than cardio is strength. Kennedy is quite a bit shorter and should be significantly stronger.
              Last edited by Kaladarus; 07-06-13, 01:50 PM.
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              • MD
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-31-12
                • 9728

                #8
                ^ Kennedy is freakishly strong. Actually, an interesting note: Reed Kuhn (hope I'm spelling that right), the MMA statistician who runs FightNomics, he was on the SBR previews for UFC 162, and he said that he knows Tim Kennedy and is friends with him, and he said that Kennedy is freakishly strong, so strong that it completely altered his perception of the fight. He described him as the kind of guy whose hand you are afraid to shake.

                Nothing to factor into handicapping, as we already know how strong Kennedy is from his fights, but I just thought it was interesting.
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #9
                  he has tree-trunks for legs...expect to hear that at least once from Rogan
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                  • Sacrelicious
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-29-12
                    • 5984

                    #10
                    I love this play, I took him large at -120 shortly after the line opened.
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                    • Catchn_Picks
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-02-11
                      • 2984

                      #11
                      Already had the play but definitely upped the play after the endorsements from top cappers here. TY for posting MD
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                      • Educ8d Degener8
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-12-10
                        • 3177

                        #12
                        Ranger up. My favorite low line on the card. GL fawkers.
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                        • ShogunRua
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-23-09
                          • 4668

                          #13
                          Took this as well. Only thing that scares me is...well, the low line. I expected it to be higher, so maybe they know something we don't? Tinfoil hat off, I think the only way Roger wins this is if he gets a submission in a scramble or something fluky like that. As mentioned above, Kennedy will most likely outpace and outwork Gracie. Roger won't be taking Kennedy down, and his standup isn't good (from what I've seen).
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                          • varkolek
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 07-17-11
                            • 230

                            #14
                            Just watched the Jardine fight. I get the concerns with cardio now, as Roger had nothing in the last round. I remember the first 2 rounds being a whitewash, but Roger kept reaching for take downs in the last round, and even tried for a trip again but couldn't get it.

                            It's surprising Roger was so effective with the trip take downs in the first 2 rounds. Jardine was probably committing to moving forward too much. Jardine is supposed to be extremely hard to hold down, and Roger dominated him there like no one else had. But if Roger fights Kennedy like he fought the 3rd round against Jardine, Kennedy should be able to stuff the take downs.
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                            • Sykes
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-23-12
                              • 2714

                              #15
                              I took him to with Bar/Edgar pts handicaps for + odds. I remember watching some of Roger in Strikeforce, looks like a beast for a couple of mins then fades, I like to think Kennedy can do 3 strong rounds with the possibility of a gnp stoppage.
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                              • Demonata
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 07-12-11
                                • 25829

                                #16
                                On Gracie myself... Feel Gracie submits him. If it's stand up like Kennedy but on the ground like Gracie to get the submission.
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                                • GunShard
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-05-10
                                  • 10026

                                  #17
                                  I like your Kennedy bet better than your Weidman bet. Good luck.
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                                  • MD
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-31-12
                                    • 9728

                                    #18
                                    Big bet on Kennedy -144 cashes, and big bet on Parke -130 cashes. All in a day's work for the MD.
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                                    • visualrealism
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 10-13-11
                                      • 880

                                      #19
                                      Md $$$$
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                                      • Educ8d Degener8
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-12-10
                                        • 3177

                                        #20
                                        Cheers fawkers
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                                        • NunyaBidness
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 07-26-09
                                          • 9345

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by MD
                                          Big bet on Kennedy -144 cashes, and big bet on Parke -130 cashes. All in a day's work for the MD.
                                          Got stuck by the humility bug and made that edit I see?
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                                          • tbird509
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 11-05-09
                                            • 761

                                            #22
                                            their isn't a better ufc handicapper period.....md gets all my respect
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                                            • Crassus
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-08-12
                                              • 1538

                                              #23
                                              Congrats MD, I was at the edge of my seat that first round but after the second I knew it was over.
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                                              • MD
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-31-12
                                                • 9728

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by tbird509
                                                their isn't a better ufc handicapper period.....md gets all my respect
                                                I told you about Weidman bro.
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                                                • Sacrelicious
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-29-12
                                                  • 5984

                                                  #25
                                                  Took him at -120 and also live bet him at +120 after rd 1, after defending while roger had his back it was clear roger had nothing for him.
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                                                  • The iron sheik
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-17-13
                                                    • 1105

                                                    #26
                                                    Was on this Kennedy gravy train too (-120 like Sac when the line came out), pretty suprised Roger took a round off him actually.
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                                                    • Vaughany
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                      • 45563

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                      he has tree-trunks for legs...expect to hear that at least once from Rogan
                                                      Was worried for a while there but it eventually came out in the third round!

                                                      184353862-1 6/18/13 6:23pm $10000.00 $5000.00 $15000.00 Win 7/6/13 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1301 Joe Rogan to say that Tim Kennedy has "tree-trunks for legs" at any point during rounds 1-3 -200*
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                                                      • Vaughany
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                        • 45563

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                        Got stuck by the humility bug and made that edit I see?
                                                        haha busssssssted
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