UFC on FX 8: Mighty Mouse vs Moraga (7-27-13)

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  • sideloaded
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    #631
    lol

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    • sideloaded
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      #632
      damn germaine made 135 and looked great im upping my bet
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      • Sato
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        #633
        Both looked shit but Guillard still bettah!
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        • NunyaBidness
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          #634
          Means missed by 5 and 5d pulled the line.
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          • sideloaded
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            #635
            bigday got'em
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            • sideloaded
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              #636
              Originally posted by NunyaBidness
              Means missed by 5 and 5d pulled the line.
              the stories i could tell you about tim means
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              • Beelzebubzy
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                #637
                Pm...
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                • sideloaded
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                  #638
                  it's nothing crazy, he is just not the sharpest knife in the drawer
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                  • NunyaBidness
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                    #639
                    They didn't announce on the broadcast, anyone know if the fights still on and if they're making him cut? MMAjunkie says yes, but could just be a canned response.

                    Ahhh nevermind:
                    "Means missed weight by five pounds. Brett Okamoto of ESPN tweeted: "Confirmed with UFC that Tim Means will not reattempt. Forfeits part of his purse to Castillo. Was four pounds over."
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                    • sideloaded
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                      #640
                      fyi 5d still has the means props up
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                      • mmaed
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                        #641
                        Watch means knock him out in round 1.
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                        • mmaed
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                          #642
                          Masvidal misses weight too? Damn that worries me.
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                          • gabe
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                            #643
                            I was leaning Means TKO but not am HEAVILY favoring either Castillo TKO or 30-27 sweep
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                            • NunyaBidness
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                              #644
                              Albert too, can't recall 3 missed weights in a while.
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                              • gabe
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                                #645
                                Originally posted by mmaed
                                Masvidal misses weight too? Damn that worries me.
                                1 pound. nate diaz missed a pound vs cerrone and pwnd him
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                                • NunyaBidness
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                                  #646
                                  Originally posted by gabe
                                  I was leaning Means TKO but not am HEAVILY favoring either Castillo TKO or 30-27 sweep
                                  I would agree if they were forcing the cut, but he didn't look too bad (he always looks kinda bad because of his height). Defiitely wouldn't bet Means at this point, but don't think all hope is lost.
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                                  • mmaed
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                                    #647
                                    Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                    I would agree if they were forcing the cut, but he didn't look too bad (he always looks kinda bad because of his height). Defiitely wouldn't bet Means at this point, but don't think all hope is lost.
                                    I agree with you about the forcing of the cut. However this is still bad for Means. He must have a reason for missing weight. As far as I can remember he has had ample time to train for this fight. He either had an injury preventing him from training or he didn't take training too seriously. That's my take on it at least. I am happier about my Castillo bet now. That's for sure. Glad I didn't take Masvidal. For the record, is there anyone here favoring Chiesa? With or without the weight cut.
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                                    • sideloaded
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                                      #648
                                      masvidal is just very un professional. In the Hustle Show he was eating at hooters the day before weigh ins.
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                                      • BIGDAY
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                                        • 02-17-10
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                                        #649
                                        Means had a bad week. Lame fuk missed weight huge.



                                        castillo with ease.
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                                        • BIGDAY
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                                          • 02-17-10
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                                          #650
                                          Originally posted by sideloaded
                                          bigday got'em
                                          I know people.
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                                          • rocky16
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                                            #651
                                            Originally posted by BIGDAY
                                            I know people.
                                            Bro, what is Juggernaut like 5'5? Focking no way you're above 5'8. Couple of short as fock dweebs. Haha. Ellenberger getting wasted easily. Haha, what a clown for ripping on Rory.
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                                            • BIGDAY
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                                              #652
                                              Originally posted by rocky16
                                              Bro, what is Juggernaut like 5'5? Focking no way you're above 5'8. Couple of short as fock dweebs. Haha. Ellenberger getting wasted easily. Haha, what a clown for ripping on Rory.
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                                              • BIGDAY
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                                                #653
                                                I'm 6'1" Suhn.
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                                                • Noleafclover
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                                                  #654
                                                  Originally posted by hougigo
                                                  Any reason why the Johnson by 5 r decision is fluctuating so much? They had him -195 10 minutes ago, now he's -159
                                                  Money's come in on Johnson ITD or Johnson in round x, the numbers for all those are down.
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                                                  • mirinquads
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                                                    #655
                                                    Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                    Means missed by 5 and 5d pulled the line.
                                                    Means is scared of the sauna now, He knows they have a score to settle, and that it would probably smash him brutally again. It aint even in the ufc neither mang

                                                    Thus he cant cut weight. Poor guy.
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                                                    • Sacrelicious
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                                                      #656
                                                      Originally posted by mmaed
                                                      Masvidal misses weight too? Damn that worries me.
                                                      Zero value on Masvidal here IMO, played Chiesa ITD +429 very small.
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                                                      • sideloaded
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                                                        #657
                                                        * Masvidal initially weighed 157.5 pounds but was given an additional two hours and made weight on his second attempt.
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                                                        • Sacrelicious
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                                                          #658
                                                          Originally posted by rocky16
                                                          Bro, what is Juggernaut like 5'5? Focking no way you're above 5'8. Couple of short as fock dweebs. Haha. Ellenberger getting wasted easily. Haha, what a clown for ripping on Rory.
                                                          Pounded the rory line here. I don't think this will be a close fight at all. I cap him at -450.
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                                                          • mmaed
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                                                            #659
                                                            Originally posted by sideloaded
                                                            * Masvidal initially weighed 157.5 pounds but was given an additional two hours and made weight on his second attempt.
                                                            Those two hours of weight cutting will drain him during the fight..
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                                                            • mmaed
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                                                              #660
                                                              Originally posted by Sacrelicious
                                                              Pounded the rory line here. I don't think this will be a close fight at all. I cap him at -450.
                                                              -450 is a little crazy. What is the justification for that? The guy has knocked out some top fighters.
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                                                              • Sacrelicious
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                                                                #661
                                                                Originally posted by mmaed
                                                                -450 is a little crazy. What is the justification for that? The guy has knocked out some top fighters.
                                                                Barring a knockout in the first 3 minutes before his offense becomes entirely ineffective, I don't see him having much for MacDonald. His wrestling may be an issue but I don't think we've actually seen what MacDonald is capable of yet in that department when presented with a legitimate opponent. I may be over confident here, and if one was to cap Rory in the -300 range I would understand their position, but I think Ellenberger is atrociously overrated. His striking is god awful, his footwork is terrible, and his only threats to Rory are a few minutes of wrestling before he gasses and a strong hand against a vastly superior opponent on the feet. I don't expect this to be a close fight, but who knows.
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                                                                • sideloaded
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                                                                  #662
                                                                  Originally posted by mmaed
                                                                  Those two hours of weight cutting will drain him during the fight..



                                                                  but really he has a day to rehydrate with an IV. Like I said, he doesnt take this serious with his food. Probably needed a shit. Masvidal wins easy.
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                                                                  • mmaed
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                                                                    #663
                                                                    Originally posted by Sacrelicious
                                                                    Barring a knockout in the first 3 minutes before his offense becomes entirely ineffective, I don't see him having much for MacDonald. His wrestling may be an issue but I don't think we've actually seen what MacDonald is capable of yet in that department when presented with a legitimate opponent. I may be over confident here, and if one was to cap Rory in the -300 range I would understand their position, but I think Ellenberger is atrociously overrated. His striking is god awful, his footwork is terrible, and his only threats to Rory are a few minutes of wrestling before he gasses and a strong hand against a vastly superior opponent on the feet. I don't expect this to be a close fight, but who knows.
                                                                    His striking gets described as atrocious all the time but he has knocked out or dropped almost every opponent he has faced in the ufc. Outside of Carlos Eduardo Rocha and maybe Jay Hieron(I missed that fight) he has knocked out or dropped every opponent he has had in the ufc and he has 10 fights in the ufc. Maybe his striking looks technically shitty but he gets the job done.
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                                                                    • MD
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                                                                      #664
                                                                      Originally posted by mmaed
                                                                      His striking gets described as atrocious all the time but he has knocked out or dropped almost every opponent he has faced in the ufc. Outside of Carlos Eduardo Rocha and maybe Jay Hieron(I missed that fight) he has knocked out or dropped every opponent he has had in the ufc and he has 10 fights in the ufc. Maybe his striking looks technically shitty but he gets the job done.
                                                                      You keep saying this. What does that have to do with anything? If you go into a restaurant and order a steak, and you get served a porkchop, what do you say then? "You can still eat it"? "Still has nutrients"? Ellenberger's striking looks "technically shitty" because he's a technically shitty striker.
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                                                                      • NunyaBidness
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                                                                        #665
                                                                        Originally posted by MD
                                                                        You keep saying this. What does that have to do with anything? If you go into a restaurant and order a steak, and you get served a porkchop, what do you say then? "You can still eat it"? "Still has nutrients"? Ellenberger's striking looks "technically shitty" because he's a technically shitty striker.
                                                                        Luckily it's MMA and technically shitty striking is par for the course.

                                                                        I mean, put a technically shitty striker with the world's biggest power in there against Mayweather. Line is -1000 Mayweather.
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