Chiesa is good value imo with how he fights and how good he is at submissions.
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DemonataBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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MDSBR Hall of Famer
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#667Sort of. The standard of striking in MMA is pretty low compared to other contact sports, but it's not as low as people think it is. Striking in MMA emphasises different elements than, say, kickboxing. Certain things are more or less important. If you know what to look for, you'll find some surprisingly brilliant strikers in MMA. Like Weidman.Comment -
sideloadedSBR Hall of Famer
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#668
lol, look at dem fake titties. Cant wait to see Miesha on bangbros.com in a couple years after this mma thing doesnt work outComment -
ImsmarterthanuSBR MVP
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#669Comment -
sideloadedSBR Hall of Famer
- 08-21-10
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#670Comment -
mmaedSBR MVP
- 11-25-11
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#671You keep saying this. What does that have to do with anything? If you go into a restaurant and order a steak, and you get served a porkchop, what do you say then? "You can still eat it"? "Still has nutrients"? Ellenberger's striking looks "technically shitty" because he's a technically shitty striker.Comment -
mirinquadsSBR MVP
- 04-22-13
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mirinquadsSBR MVP
- 04-22-13
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#674You keep saying this. What does that have to do with anything? If you go into a restaurant and order a steak, and you get served a porkchop, what do you say then? "You can still eat it"? "Still has nutrients"? Ellenberger's striking looks "technically shitty" because he's a technically shitty striker.
All that said, Rory probably gets the win, but can't play him at those odds. And whoever capped him at -450, lets not get crazy here.. If it was pure striking sure, but it aint.Comment -
SatoSBR MVP
- 07-10-12
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#675Rich Franklin made me a happy man when he killed Liddell back in Canada. Ill be an even happier man if same happens to lovely Tate...Ill forever love that lady who gets the job done...Comment -
BIGDAYSBR Aristocracy
- 02-17-10
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#676Technique is overrated in a sport where there is so many variables, mainly the groundgame. Look at Vitor, is he a great boxer? Certainly not, but he knows how to set traps with his striking, and is an athletic monster, much like Ellenberger. Would either of them do good in boxing / kickboxing.. Probably not, but this is a different game. I expect Ellenberger to use his offensive wrestling to open Rory up even more for strikes. And there is certainly technical striking gems in the UFC, a lot of them in the Lightweigh divison, but the over all level is pretty damn poor.
All that said, Rory probably gets the win, but can't play him at those odds. And whoever capped him at -450, lets not get crazy here.. If it was pure striking sure, but it aint.
I think Rory gets tested as well. I see a lot closer fight as well.Comment -
mirinquadsSBR MVP
- 04-22-13
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#677And Julie Kedzie was looking mighty cute at the weighins, even if she's blond which is a shame.
And Meisha could put me in a D'arce choke any time, shame he's with that little beta manlet Caraway. If youre reading this Meisha, let's train some jitz one of these days.Comment -
BIGDAYSBR Aristocracy
- 02-17-10
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#678I think we're in for a great night of fights fellas!
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BIGDAYSBR Aristocracy
- 02-17-10
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#679Oh, and cash those bets!!!
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mirinquadsSBR MVP
- 04-22-13
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#680This amount of smileys from the big one can only mean he speaks the truth, lets do this!!
Oh and Jessica Andrade legs.. All i can say is Mirin' mofuggin' Quads..Comment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
- 01-05-09
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#681
franklin over liddel
condit over mcdonald
wiman over danzig (rematch vindicated this one)Comment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
- 01-05-09
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#683Sort of. The standard of striking in MMA is pretty low compared to other contact sports, but it's not as low as people think it is. Striking in MMA emphasises different elements than, say, kickboxing. Certain things are more or less important. If you know what to look for, you'll find some surprisingly brilliant strikers in MMA. Like Weidman.Comment -
Educ8d Degener8SBR MVP
- 01-12-10
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#684Got lots of action plays on this one... Quite a bit tied up in Guillard (and Guillard by KO/TKO), Rory and de Randamie.
Lots of degen parlays and shit too. I get the impression Guillard is focused for this one. He better not go and get all Pat Barry (mentally) on me...
Just watched weigh-ins and heard that bit about Rory wanting to be a fashion model... tempted to sprinkle some on Ellenberger KOTN now, lol.
Think Lawler Voelker FOTN +950 worth a flier -- could get an ugly bar room brawl that the fans like. Or it could end quick. Relative to the rest of the fights, I just like the +950 on that one.Comment -
Mr HandicapableSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-23-07
- 6067
#685I have Masvidal 1.5 units to win inside 3 (+150)
4 units to win by decision (+150)
Gamebred is just too big at 155 to get submitted imo and too big of a step up for Chielsa. Jorge has always been kind of underrated in my book....but I'm still a little surprised he's -280 here?Comment -
NunyaBidnessSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-26-09
- 9345
#686I have Masvidal 1.5 units to win inside 3 (+150)
4 units to win by decision (+150)
Gamebred is just too big at 155 to get submitted imo and too big of a step up for Chielsa. Jorge has always been kind of underrated in my book....but I'm still a little surprised he's -280 here?Comment -
BeelzebubzySBR Hall of Famer
- 06-06-11
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#687He wins 4.5 units I by decision
loses 1.75 if itd
??? Is my math rightComment -
NunyaBidnessSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-26-09
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#688How much does he lose if Chiesa wins?Comment -
NoleafcloverSBR MVP
- 06-06-13
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#689Everyfing he hasComment -
Mr HandicapableSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-23-07
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#690I lose 1.75 units if Masvidal stops him but +4.5 units if Jorge beats him in a decision which is what I expect. Chelsea seems like he wins with his length but Masvidal is tall too. I'm more worried about Masvidal putting him into sleepytown or a submission but its mma so you never know.Comment -
DSSCASBR Sharp
- 03-07-12
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#691I really didn't like the way Masvidal carried himself at the weigh ins and also missing weight. As much as I dislike Chiesa and have been on Masvidal from the beginning, I'm arbing out and taking Chiesa and fight not to go distance. Most of my money is tied up in Johnson and now adding Germaine, Lawler ITD and Herman by dec. BOL to everyone.Comment -
NunyaBidnessSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-26-09
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#692I lose 1.75 units if Masvidal stops him but +4.5 units if Jorge beats him in a decision which is what I expect. Chelsea seems like he wins with his length but Masvidal is tall too. I'm more worried about Masvidal putting him into sleepytown or a submission but its mma so you never know.Comment -
THE_LOCKSMITHSBR Hall of Famer
- 08-25-08
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#693Here we goComment -
THE_LOCKSMITHSBR Hall of Famer
- 08-25-08
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#694Albert is brutalComment -
DSSCASBR Sharp
- 03-07-12
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#695That triangle took everything out of ALbert. Tough way to go out.Comment -
GrabakaSBR MVP
- 02-19-11
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#696Yeeee MezaaaaaComment -
DSSCASBR Sharp
- 03-07-12
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#698The weight cut just may have been too much for him. He's a HUGE 135. Gassed badly.Comment -
mmaedSBR MVP
- 11-25-11
- 1327
#699I really didn't like the way Masvidal carried himself at the weigh ins and also missing weight. As much as I dislike Chiesa and have been on Masvidal from the beginning, I'm arbing out and taking Chiesa and fight not to go distance. Most of my money is tied up in Johnson and now adding Germaine, Lawler ITD and Herman by dec. BOL to everyone.Comment
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